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[boomerang]

I think you should be ashamed. You behave as though you know something we do not. The death of Stephanou is a ridiculous excuse to ask people to stop visiting the north, despite the tragic circumstances of his death (which could have been brought about by ill treatment while in prison). Turkish Cypriots died in the south (the boy in Limassol, do you remember?) but this is not a reason to play into the hands of the nationalists who never saw eye to eye with the opening of the gates. The nationalists want the two communities to stay apart and are very happy to exploit tragic incidences to advance their anti Cypriot aims.

Its OK Bananiot we TCs are used to GC mentality when a TCs is not a problem and swept under the carpet but when its a GCs its the end of world and we are the worst people on the face of the earth, nothing much has changed in 47 years.

Hey asshole STFU...this is 2007 and you just showed again to the world your barbaric ways...

You are nothing but a settler...

[Viewpoint]

I think you should be ashamed. You behave as though you know something we do not. The death of Stephanou is a ridiculous excuse to ask people to stop visiting the north, despite the tragic circumstances of his death (which could have been brought about by ill treatment while in prison). Turkish Cypriots died in the south (the boy in Limassol, do you remember?) but this is not a reason to play into the hands of the nationalists who never saw eye to eye with the opening of the gates. The nationalists want the two communities to stay apart and are very happy to exploit tragic incidences to advance their anti Cypriot aims.

Its OK Bananiot we TCs are used to GC mentality when a TCs is not a problem and swept under the carpet but when its a GCs its the end of world and we are the worst people on the face of the earth, nothing much has changed in 47 years.

Hey asshole STFU...this is 2007 and you just showed again to the world your barbaric ways...

You are nothing but a settler...

So what was the killing of a TC in Limasol or the beating the TC in the English School???? Dont throw bricks if you live in a glass house.

[LENA]

What individual believes and do is their own business.

This thread was created because DT wanted to give us the explanations and the truth about that as we asked. And it was a big deal i guess for him. Now i bet he regret it by listening all of you arguing about that like that.

Kifeas excellent post!

Pitatis, Pyros, boomerang, Nikitas if you wish to stop visiting North or start a campaign about people who visit north do it in a different thread. Bananiot is not a child and of course did not wait for you to tell him what to do or not.

Of course the rest of you who went to the north part before knew that many GC were taken to prison for a long time many times, you knew about the Turks who shoot or maltreated GC so I dont think you waited for Mr Stephanou death to change your mind.

For DT's sake stop arguing in this tread like kids. And pray for his father-in-law soul.

[phoenix]

What individual believes and do is their own business.

This thread was created because DT wanted to give us the explanations and the truth about that as we asked. And it was a big deal i guess for him. Now i bet he regret it by listening all of you arguing about that like that.

Kifeas excellent post!

Pitatis, Pyros, boomerang, Nikitas if you wish to stop visiting North or start a campaign about people who visit north do it in a different thread. Bananiot is not a child and of course did not wait for you to tell him what to do or not.

Of course the rest of you who went to the north part before knew that many GC were taken to prison for a long time many times, you knew about the Turks who shoot or maltreated GC so I dont think you waited for Mr Stephanou death to change your mind.

For DT's sake stop arguing in this tread like kids. And pray for his father-in-law soul.

Lena, it is a shame if this turns out to be just a slanging match, but there probably are issues under discussion that are relevant if you ignore the diatribe.

Hopefully DT. will let everyone know if they are overstepping the boundaries of the freedom he offered with this thread to debate this sad and unfortunate issue, on a wider level.

BTW Lena, . . . I think you are getting mixed up with the first thread "Stefanos Stefanou" which DT. specifically requested for, to remain sacrosanct (although it too has suffered).

[Piratis]

Unfortunately some people choose to be blind and they choose to give their cheap excuses again.

This case was not a case of a Turkish psychopath or murderer individual. It was not even the case of police brutality by some idiot policemen acting on their own (as some tried to present it).

The fact that the beating and torturing was going on for days and the occupation regime refused to cooperate, and the fact that while 100s of criminal GCs choose to go to the occupied areas for their casinos and they instead choose to beat to death one of the most decent people of Cyprus, is a proof beyond any doubt that this murder was executed by the regime that governs occupied Cyprus and NOT by some crazy maniac individual and it is a shame when some people are trying to present the case as such in order to excuse the military Nazi regime that rules Turkey and occupied Cyprus.

And yes Bananiot, in the occupied areas only people like you can be safe. Those that kiss the ass of the Nazi military regime that rules there, and abandon even their most basic human rights to them by saying things like: "if ever I am arrested and killed (under any circumstances) may I ask you to excuse those that killed me" are safe.

Anybody decent is not safe though, because the Turkish Nazi regime hates anybody who goes against their criminal establishment.

It is funny when Bananiot who is an apologist of the military Nazi regime in the occupied areas has the nerve to accuse others of being "nationalist, chauvinist bunch" just because they oppose the occupation of their country and they dare to demand their human rights and democracy!!

My call to stop visits to the occupied areas has nothing to do with TCs. In fact in my initial post I even excused Talat. This is not an "evil TCs" "argument", like those that VP makes against GCs when there is trouble between a TC and a GC individual in the free areas. This case has nothing to do with TCs and everything to do with the ruthless Nazi military Turkish regime which rules Turkey and the occupied areas, and it is sad when some people choose to support it and excuse it.

[T_C]

Beat to death? I thought the coroners said there was no outer body bruising? If he was beaten so badly then surely there would of been?

I doubt they hit him with the intention of killing him.

[phoenix]

Beat to death? I thought the coroners said there was no outer body bruising? If he was beaten so badly then surely there would of been?

I doubt they hit him with the intention of killing him.

T_C why even "hit" anyone in your custody . . .

[T_C]

Actually I'm reading the news now and it states the GC coroner said his death was not related to his injuries...is that true?

[T_C]

Beat to death? I thought the coroners said there was no outer body bruising? If he was beaten so badly then surely there would of been?

I doubt they hit him with the intention of killing him.

T_C why even "hit" anyone in your custody . . .

I agree with you phoenix...its shamefull, but it's nothing like how Piratis made out, as though they murdered him in cold blood.

[oranos64]

[quote="Piratis"]In the previous post about Mr. Stephanou DT. asked not to discuss the case so I didn't say anything then.

This is not about police brutality. This person was not a criminal, neither he was some misbehaving teen that the police would try to scare by giving him some bruises.

This was a political murder directed by those that rule Turkey and the occupied areas, the Turkish army, like the many others those Nazis commit against anybody who they consider a threat to their criminal establishment.

Talking with Talat for this case, just like for anything else, was totally useless. I am sure Talat is not a murder and if it was up to him Stephanou would be released. However Talat is just a puppet and nothing more, and the police just like everything else in the occupied areas is run by the Turkish army and not by him.

My message to all Greek Cypriots is not to visit the occupied areas unless absolutely necessary, especially if they are known to actively oppose the occupation of our country. (Bananiot can visit with no worries)[/quote]

yep ...could not have said it better ...remine the green line ,close the gates and build a high wall ....what you do not have ,you will not miss ...

time ........give it time ....my prediction will come to surface

$$$$ to both communities ..two communities lving separately ... U.N offer ...best solution