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[cymart]

Whether we like it or not,Turkey has succeeded with its long-term strategy on Cyprus and often with the ignorant compliance of Greek-Cypriot leaders who have played straight into their hands with their short sightedness and inability to see the wider, geo-political aspects of the balance of power here!
Rauf Denktash has seen his visions become a reality and even his son Serdar and Papad. openly said they have 'common stars etc!!' about what they want to happen in Cyprus.
The latest agreement between Britain and Turkey is just another example of two countries that have mutual interests putting them above those of smaller ones and I don't think Britain did it deliberately to hurt Cyprus,despite what some conspiracy theorists here seem to constantly try to tell us!
At the end of the day there seems to be an apathy on both sides here after so many years among the ordinary people,many of whom seem to have come to accept that partition may be the only option,even reluctantly.
This is the reality which anyone can see for themselves in both north and south and surely all the rhetoric from politicians is just b******t that no longer fools anybody!

[Bananiot]

Nikitas, did your most reliable source inform whether Klerides and Vasiliou asked for a bit on the side while in New York?

P.S. It was Serdar who said that he lives in the same constellation with Papadopoulos, meaning they saw eye to eye. And, Rauf was first to suggest the setting of a reconcilliation committee, back in April 2003. Papadopoulos followed much later, a month or so ago, when the bird had flown

[Nikitas]

Bananiot, here ia quotation from a scene in a New York hotel.

"Kamia mavrou eshei na gamisoume?" asked by a high ranking member of the GC delegation. Next day, on the recommendation of the GC a TC official asked for the same lady to return and minister to his needs. My sources are reliable, very reliable.

I will leave it there for now.

[cymart]

Everywhere I have travelled to abroad,Moscow being a very typical example when the tourism exhibition is on in late March,Cypriot men seem to go there with the prime intention of finding whores or if they are lucky,other available women to exercise their primeval instincts with!All guys like women(unless they are gay of course!)but with them it seems to be an unhealthy obsession which is nothing to be proud of!As one Bulgarian girl told me quite a few years ago,sex is a normal human instinct but she thought that Cypriot guys are maniacs who just want to satisfy their animal instincts without any emotional or spiritual considerations.....
A couple of days ago both the Attorney General and DIKO m.p. Fytides denied that there is any problem with trafficking women here when they were interviewed by a woman from an overseas committee who was here to investigate long-standing claims about this which have given the island a very bad name,alleging that these girls all come here to work as whores voluntarily and are managed by some 'dodgy characters!'As if that makes it quite acceptable???

[Get Real!]

Everywhere I have travelled to abroad,Moscow being a very typical example when the tourism exhibition is on in late March,Cypriot men seem to go there with the prime intention of finding whores or if they are lucky,other available women to exercise their primeval instincts with!All guys like women(unless they are gay of course!)but with them it seems to be an unhealthy obsession which is nothing to be proud of!As one Bulgarian girl told me quite a few years ago,sex is a normal human instinct but she thought that Cypriot guys are maniacs who just want to satisfy their animal instincts without any emotional or spiritual considerations.....

Right, so in every other country when a guy approaches a hooker he first takes her to McDonalds for an hour hoping to fall in love and then to a church service for spiritual bonding... keep em coming!

[cymart]

The problem is that most of those Cypriot guys are slimy and sleazy and think they have the right to buy women to use as objects without caring about why they are reduced to such deprivation....

[Bananiot]

This is not the point GR. The point is many Cypriots do behave in a terrible manner and give all of us a bad name. However, we must not generalise. This is the mistake Nikitas made and cymart seems to follow suit. There are Cypriots who are real gentlemen and excellent ambassadors of our island. There are many Cypriots who are honest to their commitments but I do accept that many still have a long way to go.

[Nikitas]

Bananiot and Cymart,

What shocked me most about the incident is not that our policiticians used the services of a prostitute. Human nature being what it is these things happen. But, they did not have the minimum diplomatic instinct to think about the possibilities of blackmail by foreign agents. That is SHOCKING and shows the low IQ of the people who manage to climb and cling onto positions of power and influence on BOTH SIDES! Thanks to the endemic nepotism and cronyism that characterizes both sides.

If I managed to find reliable info on the events then so can foreign agents. Think about that!

[Get Real!]

The problem is that most of those Cypriot guys are slimy and sleazy and think they have the right to buy women to use as objects without caring about why they are reduced to such deprivation....

Just give it up Cymart. Your threads and "debate" are as interesting as a rabbit on heat.

[Bananiot]

Nikitas wrote

But, they did not have the minimum diplomatic instinct to think about the possibilities of blackmail by foreign agents.

Cyprus is not a superpower Nikitas and what you write reminds me strongly of the mosquito and elephant joke. Did I heard you, asked the mosquito when the elephant cried out loud after a coconut hit it on the head.

Besides, if Papadopoulos is blackmailed because he asked for the services of a black woman (did he also ask for a red Indian?) he would be more than glad to allow the story to see the light of the day. In Cyprus we appreciate the erotic acts of our leaders, especially when they prove the disbelievers wrong. Greece is like this too. Old Andreas Papandreou saw his ratings climb sky high when he dumped his wife for his younger lover.