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Postby Belenos » Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:58 pm

miltiades wrote:Eliko , this is what your protege ? wrote and you immediately rose to applaud this young idiots courage and restraining ability in replying in your "fashion" !!!
FORCED DEPORTATION !!! What a bloody idiot what an obnoxious git and YOU ARE FULL OF PRAISE FOR HIM !!
Do you know what it takes to forcibly deport some 200000 plus people , it takes genocidal means , and the plonker applauds .Well Miltiades is NOT a political correctness devotee neither does he take bullshit .
I have many many Cypriot friends who respect my genuine views and know me as a man who stands by his words that he does not , when required , mince them . Amongst my friends are lots of T/Cs , people I call my brothers , my compatriots , it is these people who will one day our future generations will have to live with in peace and stability.Having idiots such as you supporting statements such as this ( """" dont let your homeland be defiled by this cancer that is the turk because if you refuse to act it will engulf you!"""") annoys me immensely and always will do and ALWAYS my response will be the same.
Now read this plonker :

""""The solution for Cyprus is quite simple really... NO MORE TURKS IN CYPRUS!
I do not mean genocide of course because that would put us down at their level. Forced deportation would be a much better solution.

There has never in history been any records of any such Turkish community in Cyprus. They came during the empire as small trade families and settled and bred faster than rats on Viagra. They did what they do best, infest, destroy and whipe out. Nothing the Greeks could have done to the turks can even slightly compare to what the turks have done to the Greeks. You have no right to settle on lands that are not yours, pick a fight and then play the victim. Whatever harm was done to the Turks in Cyprus (I recognize no such place as northern Cyprus) was of their own fault. You turks have done nothing but spread hatred and destruction wherever you set foot.

To avoid all this is very simple...GET OUT OF CYPRUS. Every last one of you. To Cyrpriots, dont let your homeland be defiled by this cancer that is the turk because if you refuse to act it will engulf you!""""


And yet you have still not proven me wrong. You keep posting insults without ONCE proving me wrong.

Oh and sure you stand by your arguments but...what are they exactly?
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:19 pm

Belenos,

Miltiades has a long history on this forum, therefore his views are fairly well known. So is his work in areas outside the forum. Insulting him is overstepping the line. Stop it.
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Postby 74LB » Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:34 pm

Belenos,
You haven't had any positive reponses to your proposed solution (ok, maybe Phoenix gave you some encouragement) so I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve by constantly going on about this.

I am a Turkish Cypriot, as are both my parents, and their parents also, and theirs also, you get the drift ?

Cyprus is our country. Period.
You will not be deporting any Turkish Cypriots. Period.

Try and give this some thought and maybe you can come up with a better solution.

There are topics aplently in this forum and probably not much that hasn't been thought of with regards to solution proposals - you'd do well to take time to read some of these, get to 'know' some of the regular posters and see if you really can come up with the solution that would make us all happy (well, maybe not all, but the majority from all sides).
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:39 pm

Belenos wrote:Well first off, are you a greek Cypriot or a turk?

You'd think my avatar is a dead giveaway but no! :lol:
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Re: [b]“Only a fool tests the depth of the water with both f

Postby Ostrakon » Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:40 pm

miltiades wrote:
Ostrakon wrote:I am a newcomer on this forum although I have been browsing the various debates that have been going on!
I am surprised to say that some members take pride by lashing out derogatory language as means of argumentation!
Being a sixteen year old makes an individual less mature or unable to encroach upon historical debates? And you consider yourselves intellectuals?
These disparaging comments advance the Cyprus Problem at the pace of mollusk on the open road.
This is a flagrant breach of ones moral duties as orator, a historian , a debater, an intellectual or just as an intelligent human being!
If you are none of those then you
don't even belong in a Forum or public debate!
Get you act togheter!This is unacceptable!
Strive to suggest solutions or leave some constructive feedback instead of haranguing in a hostile manner!

Cheers to you my friend Belenos :wink:
May you continue to emulate your propitious aptitude in Knowledge and Debates!

Sincerely,
Ostrakon

As I first replied to Belenos , Im not inclined to be polite when my intelligence is insulted. You are Belenos so do us a favour and stop the crap.
As for his challenging and rather encouraging comments , according to you , you have missed out the fact that he has a tendency to sound like aman who is consumed by hatred directed , for now anyway , against the T/Cs with his disparaging comments and his "repatriation " nonsense of people who are very much a part of Cyprus .You are him mate under disquise , if Im wrong thren you too are full of shit !!

As for this preposterous nonsense :"""" May you continue to emulate your propitious aptitude in Knowledge and Debates! """
Im impressed , more so that you endorse his disgusting racist and fascist views.
Welcome to the forum Beleno no.2


Belenos no 2 hein? Well you are wrong! My flippant and inscrutable foe, I am supposedly "full of shit" well have you heard the expression “The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.”?
You are indefatigable in your insults,give it a break.
I would never think I would sink to your level of intellectual deficiency exchanging menial discussions with a spurious "smart-ass"
8)
Endorsing his racist ideas? I have doubts that you even know the definition of the word...You are the racist one,trying to oust anybody that doesn't have your political views by silencing them or by intimidation :x
If I remember correctly,in principle those join the techniques used by the SA and later the SS to opress political opponents in 1933.

I am not Belenos as I said but if you like playing childish games like "Which user is going to become the next Belenos?" you are welcome to do so at "sesame street".
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Postby phoenix » Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:51 pm

'74LondonBoy wrote:Belenos,
You haven't had any positive reponses to your proposed solution (ok, maybe Phoenix gave you some encouragement) so I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve by constantly going on about this.

I am a Turkish Cypriot, as are both my parents, and their parents also, and theirs also, you get the drift ?

Cyprus is our country. Period.
You will not be deporting any Turkish Cypriots. Period.

Try and give this some thought and maybe you can come up with a better solution.

There are topics aplently in this forum and probably not much that hasn't been thought of with regards to solution proposals - you'd do well to take time to read some of these, get to 'know' some of the regular posters and see if you really can come up with the solution that would make us all happy (well, maybe not all, but the majority from all sides).


The encouragement was not for his proposed solution, but for his right to continue to put his ideas forward and not be dissuaded from participation by the vultures that encircled him upon arrival. And like you have just done, I also suggested to him to read various posters' information to guide him.

On reflection, he appears to need little guidance and it looks like he can hold his own so well that he should be confident of his position as a fully fletched and awesome contender. :D
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Re: [b]“Only a fool tests the depth of the water with both f

Postby miltiades » Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:54 pm

Ostrakon wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Ostrakon wrote:I am a newcomer on this forum although I have been browsing the various debates that have been going on!
I am surprised to say that some members take pride by lashing out derogatory language as means of argumentation!
Being a sixteen year old makes an individual less mature or unable to encroach upon historical debates? And you consider yourselves intellectuals?
These disparaging comments advance the Cyprus Problem at the pace of mollusk on the open road.
This is a flagrant breach of ones moral duties as orator, a historian , a debater, an intellectual or just as an intelligent human being!
If you are none of those then you
don't even belong in a Forum or public debate!
Get you act togheter!This is unacceptable!
Strive to suggest solutions or leave some constructive feedback instead of haranguing in a hostile manner!

Cheers to you my friend Belenos :wink:
May you continue to emulate your propitious aptitude in Knowledge and Debates!

Sincerely,
Ostrakon

As I first replied to Belenos , Im not inclined to be polite when my intelligence is insulted. You are Belenos so do us a favour and stop the crap.
As for his challenging and rather encouraging comments , according to you , you have missed out the fact that he has a tendency to sound like aman who is consumed by hatred directed , for now anyway , against the T/Cs with his disparaging comments and his "repatriation " nonsense of people who are very much a part of Cyprus .You are him mate under disquise , if Im wrong thren you too are full of shit !!

As for this preposterous nonsense :"""" May you continue to emulate your propitious aptitude in Knowledge and Debates! """
Im impressed , more so that you endorse his disgusting racist and fascist views.
Welcome to the forum Beleno no.2


Belenos no 2 hein? Well you are wrong! My flippant and inscrutable foe, I am supposedly "full of shit" well have you heard the expression “The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.”?
You are indefatigable in your insults,give it a break.
I would never think I would sink to your level of intellectual deficiency exchanging menial discussions with a spurious "smart-ass"
8)
Endorsing his racist ideas? I have doubts that you even know the definition of the word...You are the racist one,trying to oust anybody that doesn't have your political views by silencing them or by intimidation :x
If I remember correctly,in principle those join the techniques used by the SA and later the SS to opress political opponents in 1933.

I am not Belenos as I said but if you like playing childish games like "Which user is going to become the next Belenos?" you are welcome to do so at "sesame street".

Well well , you find my posts incomprehensible I perceive , or are you trying to impress us with your masterful usage of the English language !
So that you understand exactly what I say let me make it very easy for you.This little shit comes on the forum and posts poisonous destructive comments about a section of the Cypriot community and you rush to his defence of free speech , would you also be prepared to defend the right of a child molester , a pervert , or a psychopathic killer ?
Can I also give you some advice , don't kid yourself about the level of your own intelligence , a measured response to an indecent view is solely the action of the educated fool not the response appropriate to put the culprit in his place. On this forum he inslulted many of my friends , including Birkibrisli , Halil , TC , Ahmed , Mr-from NG , Kikapu and scores more and I see it as my duty to reprimand severely this irresponsible little
nincompoop !! (Was going to use shit , but you may find it rather undigestable )
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Postby Belenos » Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:32 pm

Nikitas wrote:Belenos,

Miltiades has a long history on this forum, therefore his views are fairly well known. So is his work in areas outside the forum. Insulting him is overstepping the line. Stop it.


Garbage, he hits me I hit him back.

I'v been taking his abuse ever since I got here and once I utter a word against him you come in and tell me to stop? it's pathetic.

Once he treats me with respect I will show him the same.
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Postby Belenos » Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:34 pm

'74LondonBoy wrote:Belenos,
You haven't had any positive reponses to your proposed solution (ok, maybe Phoenix gave you some encouragement) so I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve by constantly going on about this.

I am a Turkish Cypriot, as are both my parents, and their parents also, and theirs also, you get the drift ?

Cyprus is our country. Period.
You will not be deporting any Turkish Cypriots. Period.

Try and give this some thought and maybe you can come up with a better solution.

There are topics aplently in this forum and probably not much that hasn't been thought of with regards to solution proposals - you'd do well to take time to read some of these, get to 'know' some of the regular posters and see if you really can come up with the solution that would make us all happy (well, maybe not all, but the majority from all sides).


Thank you for properly answering me, but If you look at my post on around page 6 or 7 (not sure) I corrected myself and agreed with another poster that complete deportation is not the right solution. Cyprus has been home to a small minority of turks for some 500 years, however in 1974, turks (along with their army) brought over some 150 000 mainland turks, they have no business there and have no right to live on the island and should be deported at once. tell me it isnt logical? If I were to go into your home, kick your parents out, and start living there protected by the army...what would you do?
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Postby Belenos » Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:35 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Belenos wrote:Well first off, are you a greek Cypriot or a turk?

You'd think my avatar is a dead giveaway but no! :lol:


Agreed, but you never know really...
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