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Postby Belenos » Sat Nov 10, 2007 2:37 am

Let him speak for himself...
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[b]“Only a fool tests the depth of the water with both feet&

Postby Ostrakon » Sat Nov 10, 2007 2:40 am

I am a newcomer on this forum although I have been browsing the various debates that have been going on!
I am surprised to say that some members take pride by lashing out derogatory language as means of argumentation!
Being a sixteen year old makes an individual less mature or unable to encroach upon historical debates? And you consider yourselves intellectuals?
These disparaging comments advance the Cyprus Problem at the pace of mollusk on the open road.
This is a flagrant breach of ones moral duties as orator, a historian , a debater, an intellectual or just as an intelligent human being!
If you are none of those then you
don't even belong in a Forum or public debate!
Get you act togheter!This is unacceptable!
Strive to suggest solutions or leave some constructive feedback instead of haranguing in a hostile manner!

Cheers to you my friend Belenos :wink:
May you continue to emulate your propitious aptitude in Knowledge and Debates!

Sincerely,
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Re: [b]“Only a fool tests the depth of the water with both f

Postby miltiades » Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:53 am

Ostrakon wrote:I am a newcomer on this forum although I have been browsing the various debates that have been going on!
I am surprised to say that some members take pride by lashing out derogatory language as means of argumentation!
Being a sixteen year old makes an individual less mature or unable to encroach upon historical debates? And you consider yourselves intellectuals?
These disparaging comments advance the Cyprus Problem at the pace of mollusk on the open road.
This is a flagrant breach of ones moral duties as orator, a historian , a debater, an intellectual or just as an intelligent human being!
If you are none of those then you
don't even belong in a Forum or public debate!
Get you act togheter!This is unacceptable!
Strive to suggest solutions or leave some constructive feedback instead of haranguing in a hostile manner!

Cheers to you my friend Belenos :wink:
May you continue to emulate your propitious aptitude in Knowledge and Debates!

Sincerely,
Ostrakon

As I first replied to Belenos , Im not inclined to be polite when my intelligence is insulted. You are Belenos so do us a favour and stop the crap.
As for his challenging and rather encouraging comments , according to you , you have missed out the fact that he has a tendency to sound like aman who is consumed by hatred directed , for now anyway , against the T/Cs with his disparaging comments and his "repatriation " nonsense of people who are very much a part of Cyprus .You are him mate under disquise , if Im wrong thren you too are full of shit !!

As for this preposterous nonsense :"""" May you continue to emulate your propitious aptitude in Knowledge and Debates! """
Im impressed , more so that you endorse his disgusting racist and fascist views.
Welcome to the forum Beleno no.2
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Postby miltiades » Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:08 am

Belenos wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Eliko wrote:Are you saying that it is better to heed the words of a liar (politician) and follow his lead, in preference to a young man who may be able to gain the truth through debate ?. :roll:

You always talk rubbish mate , this YOUNG shit advocates genocide against the Cypriot people , T/Cs they might be but they are my people and the people of Cyprus , to call them the cancer of Cyprus and to suggest forceful "repatriation" IS NOT talking the truth you Plonker , its preaching hatred and spewing poison .What a bloody waste of an education , in my humble opinion !!
Eliko , do tell me , are you married ?


Again you def old fool I do not advocate genocide.

In Israel last year, They forcefully evacuated the gaza strip to give it back to the palestinians. I am merely suggesting the same...tell me what genocide was committed in that evacuation last year? They were only living in that strip for some 50 years, same goes for cyprus...40 years.

Turks have no business there.
I honestly wonder if you drink before posting because you sound like a drunk.

I gather you are "contributing " to a great deal of forums a great deal of crap.
I told you when replying to your very first poisonous post that I'm not as polite as others on this forum .I state it as I see it and what I see in you is a twisted little shit who advocates wiping out a section of the Cypriot community , who , by his comments is adding to the stalemate of the Cyprus problem. You are a young , maybe not sixteen , but young nevertheless prat , your talents were spotted by the other fascist , Phoenix , who immediately on reading how much you hate the T/Cs offered to take you under her wing !! As for the other hopelessly logically deranged individual who rushed to endorse your spiteful comments but congradulated you for not responding in a similar manner to me !! let me tell you both and also let me include your alias ( see my answer to you ) that you are all immature little shits that need to go back to school and leave the political debates on Cyprus alone.
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Postby Eliko » Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:25 am

miltiades, Blimey!, you are out jousting windmills again, I thought you had gotten over that stage. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby miltiades » Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:30 am

Eliko , this is what your protege ? wrote and you immediately rose to applaud this young idiots courage and restraining ability in replying in your "fashion" !!!
FORCED DEPORTATION !!! What a bloody idiot what an obnoxious git and YOU ARE FULL OF PRAISE FOR HIM !!
Do you know what it takes to forcibly deport some 200000 plus people , it takes genocidal means , and the plonker applauds .Well Miltiades is NOT a political correctness devotee neither does he take bullshit .
I have many many Cypriot friends who respect my genuine views and know me as a man who stands by his words that he does not , when required , mince them . Amongst my friends are lots of T/Cs , people I call my brothers , my compatriots , it is these people who will one day our future generations will have to live with in peace and stability.Having idiots such as you supporting statements such as this ( """" dont let your homeland be defiled by this cancer that is the turk because if you refuse to act it will engulf you!"""") annoys me immensely and always will do and ALWAYS my response will be the same.
Now read this plonker :

""""The solution for Cyprus is quite simple really... NO MORE TURKS IN CYPRUS!
I do not mean genocide of course because that would put us down at their level. Forced deportation would be a much better solution.

There has never in history been any records of any such Turkish community in Cyprus. They came during the empire as small trade families and settled and bred faster than rats on Viagra. They did what they do best, infest, destroy and whipe out. Nothing the Greeks could have done to the turks can even slightly compare to what the turks have done to the Greeks. You have no right to settle on lands that are not yours, pick a fight and then play the victim. Whatever harm was done to the Turks in Cyprus (I recognize no such place as northern Cyprus) was of their own fault. You turks have done nothing but spread hatred and destruction wherever you set foot.

To avoid all this is very simple...GET OUT OF CYPRUS. Every last one of you. To Cyrpriots, dont let your homeland be defiled by this cancer that is the turk because if you refuse to act it will engulf you!""""
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Postby Eliko » Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:05 pm

miltiades, were it not for the fact that you have an extraordinary compulsion to intersperse your comments with insults, I am sure you would receive a far more reasonable response from those who might be at odds with you.

Certainly, that would be the norm in my case.

I cannot understand WHY you are so inclined, surely you must realize that the basis of any discussion is dependent on civility at all times.

Foul language is unacceptable (although sometimes excusable) in general conversation, since the 'Slip of the Tongue' may be occasionally overlooked, not too often mind, one should be reminded if it is habitual.

To actually WRITE such expletives in any form of missive or other communication, is a sign of ignorance and ill-breeding.

I really do urge you to refrain from it's general use, you present yourself in a bad light (in my opinion) by adopting this abusive style, your contentions are negated by such and the end result is of no consequence since all credibility is lost.

Please accept that my comments on this matter are in no way intended to be malicious, I would dearly love to be able to communicate with you on a higher level, you may be surprised at some of the things I could tell you regarding my own background, there are many who declare themselves LESS yet do MORE for Cyprus than do you.

I will be departing Cyprus shortly for a period of about one month, may I wish you and your family well ?. God Bless. :)
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Postby miltiades » Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:54 pm

Expletives are at times appropriate , hence the reason they emerged !! I try not to use real expletives by constrain my self to the more acceptable exclamation remarks instead !
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Re: [b]“Only a fool tests the depth of the water with both f

Postby Belenos » Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:52 pm

miltiades wrote:
Ostrakon wrote:I am a newcomer on this forum although I have been browsing the various debates that have been going on!
I am surprised to say that some members take pride by lashing out derogatory language as means of argumentation!
Being a sixteen year old makes an individual less mature or unable to encroach upon historical debates? And you consider yourselves intellectuals?
These disparaging comments advance the Cyprus Problem at the pace of mollusk on the open road.
This is a flagrant breach of ones moral duties as orator, a historian , a debater, an intellectual or just as an intelligent human being!
If you are none of those then you
don't even belong in a Forum or public debate!
Get you act togheter!This is unacceptable!
Strive to suggest solutions or leave some constructive feedback instead of haranguing in a hostile manner!

Cheers to you my friend Belenos :wink:
May you continue to emulate your propitious aptitude in Knowledge and Debates!

Sincerely,
Ostrakon

As I first replied to Belenos , Im not inclined to be polite when my intelligence is insulted. You are Belenos so do us a favour and stop the crap.
As for his challenging and rather encouraging comments , according to you , you have missed out the fact that he has a tendency to sound like aman who is consumed by hatred directed , for now anyway , against the T/Cs with his disparaging comments and his "repatriation " nonsense of people who are very much a part of Cyprus .You are him mate under disquise , if Im wrong thren you too are full of shit !!

As for this preposterous nonsense :"""" May you continue to emulate your propitious aptitude in Knowledge and Debates! """
Im impressed , more so that you endorse his disgusting racist and fascist views.
Welcome to the forum Beleno no.2


HAHA! first I'm phoenix, now I'm Ostrakon?
your pathetic. Anyways Ostrakon is much better at formulating his sentences...

Welcome Aper and thank you :)
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Postby Belenos » Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:54 pm

miltiades wrote:
Belenos wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Eliko wrote:Are you saying that it is better to heed the words of a liar (politician) and follow his lead, in preference to a young man who may be able to gain the truth through debate ?. :roll:

You always talk rubbish mate , this YOUNG shit advocates genocide against the Cypriot people , T/Cs they might be but they are my people and the people of Cyprus , to call them the cancer of Cyprus and to suggest forceful "repatriation" IS NOT talking the truth you Plonker , its preaching hatred and spewing poison .What a bloody waste of an education , in my humble opinion !!
Eliko , do tell me , are you married ?


Again you def old fool I do not advocate genocide.

In Israel last year, They forcefully evacuated the gaza strip to give it back to the palestinians. I am merely suggesting the same...tell me what genocide was committed in that evacuation last year? They were only living in that strip for some 50 years, same goes for cyprus...40 years.

Turks have no business there.
I honestly wonder if you drink before posting because you sound like a drunk.

I gather you are "contributing " to a great deal of forums a great deal of crap.
I told you when replying to your very first poisonous post that I'm not as polite as others on this forum .I state it as I see it and what I see in you is a twisted little shit who advocates wiping out a section of the Cypriot community , who , by his comments is adding to the stalemate of the Cyprus problem. You are a young , maybe not sixteen , but young nevertheless prat , your talents were spotted by the other fascist , Phoenix , who immediately on reading how much you hate the T/Cs offered to take you under her wing !! As for the other hopelessly logically deranged individual who rushed to endorse your spiteful comments but congradulated you for not responding in a similar manner to me !! let me tell you both and also let me include your alias ( see my answer to you ) that you are all immature little shits that need to go back to school and leave the political debates on Cyprus alone.


And how many glasses of rhum do I need to reach your level of political debating? :shock:
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