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Postby Belenos » Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:26 pm

miltiades wrote:BELENOS , OR TO USE KIFEAS WORDS PRICK-MADE , WROTE:
"""""""But Turks are a cancer, and letting them in is the most dangerous thing ever. It will undoubtedly destroy your island. They will spread and eventually engulf you and your culture and Nation. """"

This what this obnoxious little fart wrote about the Turks ,


Do some research, read your history. with that post I honestly doubt that stry you told me about fighting anyone since you dont even know your enemy.

What gives you the right to this island, if you dont know its culture and history? Why bother fighting for it. all you want to do is end your life on your farm house, eating turkish delight is that it?

your a coward, I didnt see it before but, your just afraid of the fight to take your island. and then you dare call yourself a patriot?
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Postby Eliko » Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:51 pm

miltiades wrote:Don't really wish to enter into a protracted exchange of views with some one that I honestly consider rather annoying . Let me just make it clear to you by giving you an example or two.
You expect any reasonable and civilized individual to calmly discuss the merits of genocide , the acts of barbarism as exhibited by the suicide bombers in Iraq , Afghanistan , lately also in Pakistan , the merits of paedophilia , gerontophilia , incest , necrophilia and many more disgusting human behaviour because in your bloody humble opinion WHAT ELSE CAN THEY DO !! You are a complete ass and I have nothing more to add , your support of this obnoxious little shit makes me sick so let me tell you once again , What a bloody waste of an education .


What a strange person you really are miltiades, where have I ever expounded the virtues of any of the behavioural patterns you describe ?.

I have merely sought to understand the motives behind the actions of the 'Suicide Bombers', I am satisfied that I KNOW those motives (having done some research on the subject and learned of them).


As to the remaining examples which you highlight, I have NEVER made any comment (as far as I can recall) other than to mention that YOU seem to be constantly eager to condemn them, my response was to suggest that perhaps YOU were struggling with some latent urge to participate in one of them, since you so often mention them quite unnecessarily (a classic symptom of a psychological imbalance).

This information I did pass on to you since I mentioned your habit to a psychologist and he advised me to do so.

Your extraordinary mis-interpretations are probably the reason for why you are unable to discuss topical subjects without reference to your personal abhorrences, I am sure we are all agreed that they are as you suggest, why do you have to particularly mention paedophilia, are you hiding something?.

I think you should perhaps seek some professional help, I do hope senility is NOT your problem (although at your age, it is a possibility). :wink:
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Postby ARMENIAN CYPRIOT » Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:31 pm

Belenos wrote:
ARMENIAN CYPRIOT wrote:Bari gisher Kanadatsi. Avtobusi kayaran, indeed :roll: :roll:


It's sad to see an Armenian like you...

Listen, davaji you know very little if anything about me. You came here insulting Canada,like the typical prick from Quebec then you blame Turkish Cypriots for what the Ottomans did. Will you also go to a Finish board and blame them since they are ethnicly Turks??
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Postby CopperLine » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:09 pm

Giving ones life for his/her nation is the greatest sacrifice and I congradulate you.


Belenos, child ardent for some desperate glory,...

The English poet Wilfred Owen, killed in action 89 years ago this week, who also wrote 'Anthem for a doomed youth', wrote these words :

"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori."


Dulce et Decorum est

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.

Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . .
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori.

Wilfred Owen


See, in this Remembrance Week, http://www.warpoetry.co.uk/owena.htm#WILFRED%20OWEN%20top%20of%20page
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Postby Belenos » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:13 pm

ARMENIAN CYPRIOT wrote:
Belenos wrote:
ARMENIAN CYPRIOT wrote:Bari gisher Kanadatsi. Avtobusi kayaran, indeed :roll: :roll:


It's sad to see an Armenian like you...

Listen, davaji you know very little if anything about me. You came here insulting Canada,like the typical prick from Quebec then you blame Turkish Cypriots for what the Ottomans did. Will you also go to a Finish board and blame them since they are ethnicly Turks??


I never insulted canada, read my posts properly, like I'v tried to explain a million times. If you keep blurting out the same garbage, then you can deal with yourself. If you knew the first thing about Canada youd understand what I'm talking about. so how bout you inform yourself on the country's situation and then make stupid comments eghav aper?!

I didnt blame turkish cypriots for what the ottomans did, I blamed turanist mentality. And stop being so ignorant for once, The fins arnt ethnicly turks...
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Postby Belenos » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:15 pm

CopperLine wrote:
Giving ones life for his/her nation is the greatest sacrifice and I congradulate you.


Belenos, child ardent for some desperate glory,...

The English poet Wilfred Owen, killed in action 89 years ago this week, who also wrote 'Anthem for a doomed youth', wrote these words :

"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori."


Dulce et Decorum est

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.

Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . .
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori.

Wilfred Owen


See, in this Remembrance Week, http://www.warpoetry.co.uk/owena.htm#WILFRED%20OWEN%20top%20of%20page


do any of you read my posts? Is it Cypriot custom to misunderstand and insult like hounds?

When have I ever glorified war? I only gave the man respect because he fought for his country. People like that deserve respect, tell me its wrong! Tell me your grandparents or parents who fought and died for their country dont deserve to be respected because they gave the ultimate gift to save their nation...their lives!
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Postby phoenix » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:19 pm

CopperLine wrote:
Giving ones life for his/her nation is the greatest sacrifice and I congradulate you.


Belenos, child ardent for some desperate glory,...

The English poet Wilfred Owen, killed in action 89 years ago this week, who also wrote 'Anthem for a doomed youth', wrote these words :

"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori."


Dulce et Decorum est

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.

Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . .
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori.

Wilfred Owen


See, in this Remembrance Week, http://www.warpoetry.co.uk/owena.htm#WILFRED%20OWEN%20top%20of%20page


Copperline, good post. :wink:
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Postby Belenos » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:47 pm

phoenix wrote:
CopperLine wrote:
Giving ones life for his/her nation is the greatest sacrifice and I congradulate you.


Belenos, child ardent for some desperate glory,...

The English poet Wilfred Owen, killed in action 89 years ago this week, who also wrote 'Anthem for a doomed youth', wrote these words :

"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori."


Dulce et Decorum est

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.

Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . .
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori.

Wilfred Owen


See, in this Remembrance Week, http://www.warpoetry.co.uk/owena.htm#WILFRED%20OWEN%20top%20of%20page


Copperline, good post. :wink:


Not to mention useless...
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Postby miltiades » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:52 pm

Eliko wrote:
miltiades wrote:Don't really wish to enter into a protracted exchange of views with some one that I honestly consider rather annoying . Let me just make it clear to you by giving you an example or two.
You expect any reasonable and civilized individual to calmly discuss the merits of genocide , the acts of barbarism as exhibited by the suicide bombers in Iraq , Afghanistan , lately also in Pakistan , the merits of paedophilia , gerontophilia , incest , necrophilia and many more disgusting human behaviour because in your bloody humble opinion WHAT ELSE CAN THEY DO !! You are a complete ass and I have nothing more to add , your support of this obnoxious little shit makes me sick so let me tell you once again , What a bloody waste of an education .


What a strange person you really are miltiades, where have I ever expounded the virtues of any of the behavioural patterns you describe ?.

I have merely sought to understand the motives behind the actions of the 'Suicide Bombers', I am satisfied that I KNOW those motives (having done some research on the subject and learned of them).


As to the remaining examples which you highlight, I have NEVER made any comment (as far as I can recall) other than to mention that YOU seem to be constantly eager to condemn them, my response was to suggest that perhaps YOU were struggling with some latent urge to participate in one of them, since you so often mention them quite unnecessarily (a classic symptom of a psychological imbalance).

This information I did pass on to you since I mentioned your habit to a psychologist and he advised me to do so.

Your extraordinary mis-interpretations are probably the reason for why you are unable to discuss topical subjects without reference to your personal abhorrences, I am sure we are all agreed that they are as you suggest, why do you have to particularly mention paedophilia, are you hiding something?.

I think you should perhaps seek some professional help, I do hope senility is NOT your problem (although at your age, it is a possibility). :wink:

You must by now have gathered that my tolerance levels for stupidity ARE very low. When faced with bizarre arguments and irresponsible comments I react accordingly and although I would respect anyone's right to express views I shall not TOLERATE BLATANT NONSENSE .You are full of such nonsense not least your views on psychopathic murderous behavior and your readiness to defend the indefensible with grotesque analogies and excuses as to why such vile acts take place.I'm certain you will have a perfectly "rational " explanation as to why the suicide attacks are occurring in Pakistan .
As for accusing me of cowardice , let me tell you that more than 150000 Cypriots emigrated to other parts of the globe during the late fifties and early 60s , to accuse those that left as cowards is a further indication of your utterly illogical views as highlighted in most of your posts .
My wish to see the Cyprus problem resolved peacefully is also the wish of every peace loving responsible person not only in Cyprus but the world over.When a person posts hateful racist comments on a section of the Cypriot community he or she should be taken to task not bloody well congratulated by idiots for his courage to post such poisonous crap.
WHAT A BLOODY WASTE OF AN EDUCATION !! IN MY HUMBLE OPINION !!
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Postby phoenix » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:07 pm

Belenos wrote:
phoenix wrote:
CopperLine wrote:
Giving ones life for his/her nation is the greatest sacrifice and I congradulate you.


Belenos, child ardent for some desperate glory,...

The English poet Wilfred Owen, killed in action 89 years ago this week, who also wrote 'Anthem for a doomed youth', wrote these words :

"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori."


Dulce et Decorum est

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.

Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . .
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori.

Wilfred Owen


See, in this Remembrance Week, http://www.warpoetry.co.uk/owena.htm#WILFRED%20OWEN%20top%20of%20page


Copperline, good post. :wink:


Not to mention useless...


Belenos avoid being dismissive too quickly. :D

You have proved your worth admirably as a debater. You have a lot of energy and enthusiasm and hopefully you will continue to use it in the right way. By examining ideas! You are a thinking person . . . that is evident from your posts.

The only worry is that because of your youth, you may be easily sidetracked down a less wholesome path. :(

I think Copperline is addressing that.
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