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[magikthrill]

And by the way Grivas' soul is still living in hearts and brains of 100 thousands of GCs. In 1974 when he died 120.000 GCs walked behind his funeral.

hundred thousands GCs? So you claim thta ALL GCs are behind Grivas then???

And the EU is not behind GCs. Thinking like that is dillusional. GCs are more of a headache than anything else to the EU. But too bad. Maybe Turkey can develop to the extent of the RoC and then they can have their armies and Turkeys altogether.

And on a final note heres something about Enosis:

When my GC friend came here to study she was looking for an apartment in Athens. When the landlord asked here where she was from and she said Cyprus the landlord responded:

"Sorry we don't want to rent to foreigners"

[insan]

Nevertheles; 30.000 GCs have been residing in Greece and they have a Pan-Hellenic Federation and many organizations that are also lobbying for national cause of Hellenes.

Now, either that Greek landlord represents Greek people or the Greeks who organize 30.000 GCs in Greece.

Moreover, there are 17.000 Greeks and it is said that there are some 45.000 Pontian Greek residents in Cyprus.

I'm looking forward to hear your analysis about these situations, magikthrill.

[Piratis]

GCs in the UK are 200.000, and British people in Cyprus are about as many as Greeks. Maybe this means we are planning enosis with UK?

[insan]

GCs in the UK are 200.000, and British people in Cyprus are about as many as Greeks. Maybe this means we are planning enosis with UK?

My post is related with magikthrill's post about Greek attitude towards GCs, in Greece.

[boulio]

My post is related with magikthrill's post about Greek attitude towards GCs, in Greece

your post are not very valid and you cant pick and choose were to aplly them.

[insan]

My post is related with magikthrill's post about Greek attitude towards GCs, in Greece

your post are not very valid and you cant pick and choose were to aplly them.

my post were to were supplly it were to ter.

[-mikkie2-]

Insan,

I very much doubt there are 45000 pontian Greeks in Cyprus. Most of the pontian Greeks seem to live in Paphos. If you analyse the news, trouble that occurs by pontian Greeks always seems to come from Paphos. Now Paphos has a polulation of around 45000!

The fact is the pontian Greeks are not citizens of the RoC. They are Greek citizens. They do not vote in elections in Cyprus.

As to Pan-hellenic organisations, isn't there pan-Turkish organisations around the world? I'm sure you will find that is the case in many countries where there is a sizable Turkish community. Personally, I do not see anything wrong in that.

[insan]

Insan,

I very much doubt there are 45000 pontian Greeks in Cyprus. Most of the pontian Greeks seem to live in Paphos. If you analyse the news, trouble that occurs by pontian Greeks always seems to come from Paphos. Now Paphos has a polulation of around 45000!

The fact is the pontian Greeks are not citizens of the RoC. They are Greek citizens. They do not vote in elections in Cyprus.

As to Pan-hellenic organisations, isn't there pan-Turkish organisations around the world? I'm sure you will find that is the case in many countries where there is a sizable Turkish community. Personally, I do not see anything wrong in that.

I said it is said that... ain't I? Furthermore I didn't compare them with Turkish settlers... and I have never denied the existence of Turkish organizations abroad....

What I've asked to magikthrill is very clear. What's your problem? Just making nonsense!

[-mikkie2-]

I'm not posting nonsense! I was simply stating my views. Anything wrong with that? Its a free and open forum isn't it?

For you,

Pan-Hellenic organisations = conspiracy against everything Turkish, master plan of hellenic ruling elite, supporting national cauise of hellens etc etc

Pan_Turkik organisation = ?????? what exactly? oragnises sunday afternoon tea drinking sessions?

Just trying to put some perspective on some of your fatally flawed arguments...

[Realist]

Just been reading the this thread thought I'd try to answer insan.

To be honest I believe that Greeks though sympathetic to the GC situation don't have the political or military strength to enforce any kind of 'enosis'/national Hellenic agenda, if it still existed.

I can understand why Insan may recall the EOKA B inspired campaign for 'enosis', but the EOKA B was originally sponsored by foreign powers. Just like the Turk Mukavemet Teskilati which was founded in the 50's which not only targeted GC, but TC as well. These organisations were tools for creating tension between the two sides so that the interests of the Great Powers were carried out - 'Divide and Rule'. Why are there both British bases on the GC side and an American base on the TC side of the island? How long do you think the north of Cyprus would remain under Turkish control if tomorrow Turkey decided to close all American opperations from Northern Cyprus?

To add to this, in resent times the notion of 'enosis' has been more regularly voiced by Turkey. How long has it been since headlines read "Turkey will anex Northern Cyprus if RoC joins the EU". I think TC should be more concerned that they don't end up a province of Turkey proper in everything but name.

Enoses is a dream for whoever want's to believe it, that goes for both GC and TC. Cyprus is too important as a military base for it to come under the total control of either Turkey or Greece.

So don't worry Insan, your nightmares will never become a reality.