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A parable of the bagpipes

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Postby Nefeli » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:50 am

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Fantastic, thanks for this information Nefeli. I'd love to see them being played for real, perhaps on one of our future visits to Greece

“I have my own particular sorrows, loves, delights; and you have yours. But sorrow, gladness, yearning, hope, love, belong to all of us, in all times and in all places. Music is the only means whereby we feel these emotions in their universality.” H.A. Overstreet

For your ears only…. Enjoy :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab361rchJ-M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmJZaZ1O ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrwSnc3y4O0 :wink:
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Postby Nefeli » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:54 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Talisker wrote:
Nefeli wrote:
Talisker wrote:Resurrecting the bagpipe thread - well why not? - by pure chance I found this photograph of an enormous set of bagpipes being played at a festival in a village in the Mani region of Greece. Anyone know anything about these pipes? Are they played in Cyprus? Got to have an impressive pair of lungs to get a note out of these! :lol:

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Tsambouna > tsabouna / Greek: τσαμπούνα

The tsamboúna, an instrument of archaic construction, is probably the most typical of the older-stream instruments. It is a drone less bagpipe with twin double-reed chanters. Through the ages it has played an important role in forming the essential characteristics of the local music of the Aegean. On each of the roughly twenty islands where it is still in use nowadays there are small local variations in its construction, form, sound, repertoire and playing techniques, as well as in the choice of instruments that usually accompany it.

What exactly is a tsambouna?

The “tsampouna” is a wind instrument, made of the entire goatskin. The skin of a goat with all the orifices and legs sealed except for two. One opening is a mouthpiece and the other a horn, also from a goat where the sound comes out. The sound of the tsambouna is something like Scotitsh bagpipes with notes being played over a mournful droning that sounds like cats in heat until you get used to it when it begins to sound mysterious and magical.

The musician is usually a shepherd, who is also the maker of the instrument and whose
musicianship can go back for generations

The various tsambounas (and related flutes and pipes) have been played on the islands of Greece for at least a millennium.

http://www.oddmusic.com/gallery/om32275.html
http://echospond.aminus3.com/image/2007-02-21.html
http://www.greekfolkmusicanddance.com/instruments.php

Regards
Nefeli

PS = No they don't played in Cyprus


Fantastic, thanks for this information Nefeli. I'd love to see them being played for real, perhaps on one of our future visits to Greece.



Nefeli, Thanks for the post.
It would be interesting to hear this instrument without the 'drone'. :lol:


I' m glad you liked it Deniz :lol:
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Postby Talisker » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:08 am

Nefeli wrote:Fantastic, thanks for this information Nefeli. I'd love to see them being played for real, perhaps on one of our future visits to Greece

“I have my own particular sorrows, loves, delights; and you have yours. But sorrow, gladness, yearning, hope, love, belong to all of us, in all times and in all places. Music is the only means whereby we feel these emotions in their universality.” H.A. Overstreet

For your ears only…. Enjoy :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab361rchJ-M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmJZaZ1O ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrwSnc3y4O0 :wink:


Thanks, so that's what they sound like? Sounds vaguely familiar to this Scottish ear! I was looking for similar and found this one:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ9lmvfhPg4

He seems to be enjoying himself............
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Postby GorillaGal » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:25 am

i'd like to know what sick puppy decided to skin a goat, stick a horn in it, and make music out of it. pretty disgusting thought, if you ask me.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:31 am

Nefeli wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Talisker wrote:
Nefeli wrote:
Talisker wrote:Resurrecting the bagpipe thread - well why not? - by pure chance I found this photograph of an enormous set of bagpipes being played at a festival in a village in the Mani region of Greece. Anyone know anything about these pipes? Are they played in Cyprus? Got to have an impressive pair of lungs to get a note out of these! :lol:

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Tsambouna > tsabouna / Greek: τσαμπούνα

The tsamboúna, an instrument of archaic construction, is probably the most typical of the older-stream instruments. It is a drone less bagpipe with twin double-reed chanters. Through the ages it has played an important role in forming the essential characteristics of the local music of the Aegean. On each of the roughly twenty islands where it is still in use nowadays there are small local variations in its construction, form, sound, repertoire and playing techniques, as well as in the choice of instruments that usually accompany it.

What exactly is a tsambouna?

The “tsampouna” is a wind instrument, made of the entire goatskin. The skin of a goat with all the orifices and legs sealed except for two. One opening is a mouthpiece and the other a horn, also from a goat where the sound comes out. The sound of the tsambouna is something like Scotitsh bagpipes with notes being played over a mournful droning that sounds like cats in heat until you get used to it when it begins to sound mysterious and magical.

The musician is usually a shepherd, who is also the maker of the instrument and whose
musicianship can go back for generations

The various tsambounas (and related flutes and pipes) have been played on the islands of Greece for at least a millennium.

http://www.oddmusic.com/gallery/om32275.html
http://echospond.aminus3.com/image/2007-02-21.html
http://www.greekfolkmusicanddance.com/instruments.php

Regards
Nefeli

PS = No they don't played in Cyprus


Fantastic, thanks for this information Nefeli. I'd love to see them being played for real, perhaps on one of our future visits to Greece.



Nefeli, Thanks for the post.
It would be interesting to hear this instrument without the 'drone'. :lol:


I' m glad you liked it Deniz :lol:



I like end blown wind instruments. This sound is quite 'melancholic'.

Thanks again
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Postby Talisker » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:33 am

GorillaGal wrote:i'd like to know what sick puppy decided to skin a goat, stick a horn in it, and make music out of it. pretty disgusting thought, if you ask me.


Probably just seemed a good idea at the time. The goat meat had been cooked and eaten, washed down with a few glasses of wine no doubt, and that goatskin in the corner was an obvious choice to provide the musical entertainment. :lol: A good night was had by all..........
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:45 am

Talisker wrote:
GorillaGal wrote:i'd like to know what sick puppy decided to skin a goat, stick a horn in it, and make music out of it. pretty disgusting thought, if you ask me.


Probably just seemed a good idea at the time. The goat meat had been cooked and eaten, washed down with a few glasses of wine no doubt, and that goatskin in the corner was an obvious choice to provide the musical entertainment. :lol: A good night was had by all..........



and for making of cheese. Probably Greek feta as well. :lol:

In Turkish = Tulum peyniri (not Feta, before anyone jumps in.) :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:59 am

"i'd like to know what sick puppy decided to skin a goat, stick a horn in it, and make music out of it. pretty disgusting thought, if you ask me."Says Gorrilla Gal.

Well my turn to ask how are your bagpipes made in the USA? Those pipes playing at Saint Patricks day parades and other occasions? They use human skin for the bags? Come on, leave this animal adoration stuff aside. The sound of the pipes is awful enough! That goat will be taking his/her revenge for generations!

All bag pipes should be banned, except Sctos ones.
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Postby GorillaGal » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:02 am

i love the bagpipes, i just wonder how the hell someone thought ot sticking a reed in it and blowing. pretty sick idea, doncha think?
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:44 am

I know where I want to stick the reed when I hear any bagpipes other than Scottish ones! There is something so irritating in that reedy sound.
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