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[phoenix]

Devil, I sensed you were a bit irate to be associated with the Sassenach English in terms of origins . . . so here’s another thing the Scots and English have in common . . .

. . You were both discovered and mapped by a Greek!

Pytheas the Greek Discovered Britain

Pytheas (ca. 380 BC-ca. 300 BC), a Greek explorer from the city of Massalia in southern France, traveled all the way around Britain.

Pytheas sailed from Brittany to Land's End in Cornwall, the southwestern tip of Britain. From Cornwall, Pytheas sailed north through the Irish Sea between Britain and Ireland all the way to the northern tip of Scotland, probably going as far as the Orkney Islands. Pytheas finally turned south and completed his circumnavigation of Britain.

Along the way, he stopped and traveled for short distances inland and described the customs of the inhabitants. The inhabitants lived on wild berries and "millet" and made mead.

He was certainly the first to circumnavigate Britain, and first to write on British ethnography. Pytheas also correctly described Britain as triangular, accurately estimated its circumference at 4,000 miles (6,400 km) within 2.5% of modern estimates.

He recorded the local name of the islands in Greek as Prettanike, which Diodorus later rendered Pretannia. This supports theories that the coastal inhabitants of Cornwall may have called themselves Pretani or Priteni, 'Painted' or 'Tattooed' people, a term Romans Latinised as Picti (Picts). He is quoted as referring to the British Isles as the "Isles of the Pretani."

(Source: abridged from BookRags.)

There you have it . . .

You owe your discovery to the Greeks!

Now could they lay claim to sovereignty . . . .

[Niki]

:lol:
Devil, I sensed you were a bit irate to be associated with the Sassenach English in terms of origins . . . so here’s another thing the Scots and English have in common . . .

. . You were both discovered and mapped by a Greek!

Pytheas the Greek Discovered Britain

Pytheas (ca. 380 BC-ca. 300 BC), a Greek explorer from the city of Massalia in southern France, traveled all the way around Britain.

Pytheas sailed from Brittany to Land's End in Cornwall, the southwestern tip of Britain. From Cornwall, Pytheas sailed north through the Irish Sea between Britain and Ireland all the way to the northern tip of Scotland, probably going as far as the Orkney Islands. Pytheas finally turned south and completed his circumnavigation of Britain.

Along the way, he stopped and traveled for short distances inland and described the customs of the inhabitants. The inhabitants lived on wild berries and "millet" and made mead.

He was certainly the first to circumnavigate Britain, and first to write on British ethnography. Pytheas also correctly described Britain as triangular, accurately estimated its circumference at 4,000 miles (6,400 km) within 2.5% of modern estimates.

He recorded the local name of the islands in Greek as Prettanike, which Diodorus later rendered Pretannia. This supports theories that the coastal inhabitants of Cornwall may have called themselves Pretani or Priteni, 'Painted' or 'Tattooed' people, a term Romans Latinised as Picti (Picts). He is quoted as referring to the British Isles as the "Isles of the Pretani."

(Source: abridged from BookRags.)

There you have it . . .

You owe your discovery to the Greeks!

Now could they lay claim to sovereignty . . . .

Is it also true any word in the English language has it's origin in Greek?

[webbo]

I think you'll find the locals had already discovered it as they were inhabitting it long before your Greek man arrived.

[phoenix]

I think you'll find the locals had already discovered it as they were inhabitting it long before your Greek man arrived.

Seriously webbo . . . when Columbus "discovered" America, The Bahamas etc . . . were those places devoid of Natives ?

Were Australia, The Islands of Hawaii etc. uninhabited when Captain James Cook, discovered and mapped them?

It does not matter that there were inhabitants already there .... the point is the place was "discovered", mapped and recorded and hence achieved recognition by the existing civilised world.

I knew this would not be liked! . . . ignorance is bliss!

[webbo]

I had this discussion with colleagues when I saw your origional post and agree Cook, Columbus etc did not discover the places but merely brought them to the attention of the people who were ignorant of their existence in the first place. If man was already there it had already been discovered.

[Nikitas]

This is it! I am going to paint myself with woad and will lay claim to a fancy Scottish estate. Then I will "develop" it and start selling holiday apartments! Prettanika Mansion sounds like a good pythi trade mark.

[Eliko]

phoenix, your reference to 'Ignorance is Bliss' opens the door to another small detail you may wish to ponder upon.

The person who first 'Coined the Phrase' must have been miserable, since he/she recognized that fact.

As to Scotland and the Greeks, I do believe that the very name of the country is a derivative of the Greek language for 'Dark Land'

"Och Aye tha' Noo' Koumbare mou !"

[Eliko]

Allow me to question the origin of the 'Kilt', in order to get away from 666, appearing on my avatar.

[denizaksulu]

:lol:
Devil, I sensed you were a bit irate to be associated with the Sassenach English in terms of origins . . . so here’s another thing the Scots and English have in common . . .

. . You were both discovered and mapped by a Greek!

Pytheas the Greek Discovered Britain

Pytheas (ca. 380 BC-ca. 300 BC), a Greek explorer from the city of Massalia in southern France, traveled all the way around Britain.

Pytheas sailed from Brittany to Land's End in Cornwall, the southwestern tip of Britain. From Cornwall, Pytheas sailed north through the Irish Sea between Britain and Ireland all the way to the northern tip of Scotland, probably going as far as the Orkney Islands. Pytheas finally turned south and completed his circumnavigation of Britain.

Along the way, he stopped and traveled for short distances inland and described the customs of the inhabitants. The inhabitants lived on wild berries and "millet" and made mead.

He was certainly the first to circumnavigate Britain, and first to write on British ethnography. Pytheas also correctly described Britain as triangular, accurately estimated its circumference at 4,000 miles (6,400 km) within 2.5% of modern estimates.

He recorded the local name of the islands in Greek as Prettanike, which Diodorus later rendered Pretannia. This supports theories that the coastal inhabitants of Cornwall may have called themselves Pretani or Priteni, 'Painted' or 'Tattooed' people, a term Romans Latinised as Picti (Picts). He is quoted as referring to the British Isles as the "Isles of the Pretani."

(Source: abridged from BookRags.)

There you have it . . .

You owe your discovery to the Greeks!

Now could they lay claim to sovereignty . . . .

Very interesting Phoenix. So you are back in Britain after your 'inheritance' and married a long lost relative - probably.

[Get Real!]

Allow me to question the origin of the 'Kilt', in order to get away from 666, appearing on my avatar.

You've just immortalized it with your message!