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[phoenix]

Allow me to question the origin of the 'Kilt', in order to get away from 666, appearing on my avatar.

Foustaneles . . . spring to mind!

[denizaksulu]

Allow me to question the origin of the 'Kilt', in order to get away from 666, appearing on my avatar.

Foustaneles . . . spring to mind!

Didnt the greeks adopt the 'Foustanella' from the Macedonians. Dont tell me we have been hoodwinked again!!

[Eliko]

This particular thread has unwittingly given the Scots a rare opportunity for revenge:-

"What did the Greeks wear under their 'Foustanellas ?"

[devil]

I doubt whether Scotland was named from Greek. No one knows for sure. In Roman times, there were several Celtic tribes there. The Romans called it indifferently after the Pictii (painted people), Caledonii and Scotii (two of the tribes). The last one stuck. There is dispute about the origin of Scot, but I think the most probable one is from the Irish scuit, meaning a coward (it has been established that all the Scottish tribes came originally from Ireland, some of them fleeing before the more belligerent ones).

The kilt is not a long-standing traditional item of clothing and was unheard of before ~1600. It was originally a massive garment comprising a long length of belted wide cloth which was wrapped twice round the midriff and then up over the left shoulder and down the back, where it was tucked into the belt holding up the rest of it. It reached down nearly to the ankles. I don't know why the "great kilt" started like that. The modern tartan pleated kilt, which is also very heavy (supported by a bodice under the shirt), dates from the mid-1700s. I suspect that it may be a result of the English ban on wearing the great kilt, along with tartan trews. So, no, it is not of Greek origin!

As for all English words having a Greek origin, someone has been watching a Big Fat Greek Wedding too many times! I doubt whether more than 10% of common words have direct Greek origin with another 20% with indirect Greek origin, via Latin and other Romance languages. The majority of common words are of Germanic origin. However, ~90% of words are of Indo-European origin, in turn derived from Sanskrit. With a few exceptions (Basque, Finnish etc.), all European languages are derived from Indo-European roots, including Greek, so some words in English and Greek may have a common root without one being derived from the other. There are even a number of English words derived from Scottish Gaelic (e.g., whisky, slogan, cuddle etc.). Philology is a very complex subject.

[phoenix]

I doubt whether Scotland was named from Greek. No one knows for sure. In Roman times, there were several Celtic tribes there. The Romans called it indifferently after the Pictii (painted people), Caledonii and Scotii (two of the tribes). The last one stuck. There is dispute about the origin of Scot, but I think the most probable one is from the Irish scuit, meaning a coward (it has been established that all the Scottish tribes came originally from Ireland, some of them fleeing before the more belligerent ones).

The kilt is not a long-standing traditional item of clothing and was unheard of before ~1600. It was originally a massive garment comprising a long length of belted wide cloth which was wrapped twice round the midriff and then up over the left shoulder and down the back, where it was tucked into the belt holding up the rest of it. It reached down nearly to the ankles. I don't know why the "great kilt" started like that. The modern tartan pleated kilt, which is also very heavy (supported by a bodice under the shirt), dates from the mid-1700s. I suspect that it may be a result of the English ban on wearing the great kilt, along with tartan trews. So, no, it is not of Greek origin!

As for all English words having a Greek origin, someone has been watching a Big Fat Greek Wedding too many times! I doubt whether more than 10% of common words have direct Greek origin with another 20% with indirect Greek origin, via Latin and other Romance languages. The majority of common words are of Germanic origin. However, ~90% of words are of Indo-European origin, in turn derived from Sanskrit. With a few exceptions (Basque, Finnish etc.), all European languages are derived from Indo-European roots, including Greek, so some words in English and Greek may have a common root without one being derived from the other. There are even a number of English words derived from Scottish Gaelic (e.g., whisky, slogan, cuddle etc.). Philology is a very complex subject.

Philology is a very Greek word

[devil]

Duh!

[LENA]

Is it also true any word in the English language has it's origin in Greek?

How many times did you watch the movie My big fat Greek wedding???

[devil]

How many times did you watch the movie My big fat Greek wedding???

How about saying something original?

As for all English words having a Greek origin, someone has been watching a Big Fat Greek Wedding too many times!

[Niki]

Is it also true any word in the English language has it's origin in Greek?

How many times did you watch the movie My big fat Greek wedding???

Er.... maybe 6 times!

The funny thing is so much of it is actually happening!!!

[LENA]

How many times did you watch the movie My big fat Greek wedding???

How about saying something original?

As for all English words having a Greek origin, someone has been watching a Big Fat Greek Wedding too many times!

I apologize Devil...calm down, my intention was not to offend you, I just did not read your post carefully. Sorry


Niki mou, you are right many of this are true but some of them were pulled overmuch from the truth!