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[EPSILON]

Several months have been elapsed since I started participation in this forum.

I am not a fanatic, I have many mainland Turks as close friends, I have posted several msgs on purpose to see reactions, I discuss several aspects of Cyprus problem with Gcs locally in Cyprus.

I came to the conclusion that the more secure, democratic,fair,easier solution of Cyprus problem , under the today's circustances, is Denkatsh dream. PARTICION- TAKSIM.(This was not my dream for Cyprus but it is today)

Yes I agree with Denktash and i do not afraid to say so. Maybe for different reasons however i consider nobody else will aprreciate my different base of Denkatsh and therefore I say strait that I agree with him.

Of course some basic rules and regulations about safety/land and other factors must pre-agreed however i consider that a reunited Cyprus it will be a disaster for the loosers of the war, The Greeks of Cyprus.

Turkey is operating the second powerful army in NATO. Greece , long time now,and particularly after they suceeded to enter Cyprus in EU, they feel that they have not any other liabilities against the Greeks of Cyprus-wrong but true.

A separation with the gurantee of boarders by NATO or EU or UN General counsil , with return of a pecrentage of land to its GCS owners will end the conflict in the satisfaction of both Ethnicities and allow eqch of them to go to the direction they like.

Clear rules of its state to its citizens, clear education,language, history,ECONOMY, international co-operations etc etc.

Why we are trying to mix up the simple things? Why we are blides on what happen in other "two Ethnicity" united countries?

Why we are making our life difficult? Exempt if some hotel owners need some compensation to say yes to TAKSIM.

[zan]

All sensible persons are coming to the same conclusion EPSILON because it is the best thing for the island. We can fight it and again cause problems or work together.......

[EPSILON]

All sensible persons are coming to the same conclusion EPSILON because it is the best thing for the island. We can fight it and again cause problems or work together.......

But , as you can see, they are not responding, they do not have the b...to say what they really feel and thing, -can you make chikkens to come in a recoconsiliation?

[zan]

All sensible persons are coming to the same conclusion EPSILON because it is the best thing for the island. We can fight it and again cause problems or work together.......

But , as you can see, they are not responding, they do not have the b...to say what they really feel and thing, -can you make chikkens to come in a recoconsiliation?

Don't worry...It will happen without them even realising as it is today....As soon as the feed is scattered on the ground the chickens will come running......It's the foxes that I am worried about that are waiting in the wings to pick them off.

[Viewpoint]

Well said EPSILON you are very clever and brave person, more and more people over the coming years will realize that what you say today is 100% correct.

[Expatkiwi]

I came to the conclusion that the more secure, democratic,fair,easier solution of Cyprus problem , under the today's circustances, is Denkatsh dream. PARTICION- TAKSIM.(This was not my dream for Cyprus but it is today)

Yes I agree with Denktash and i do not afraid to say so. Maybe for different reasons however i consider nobody else will aprreciate my different base of Denkatsh and therefore I say strait that I agree with him.

Of course some basic rules and regulations about safety/land and other factors must pre-agreed however i consider that a reunited Cyprus it will be a disaster for the loosers of the war, The Greeks of Cyprus.

The only problem with this is that people on this forum - like GR - takes such views (as well as the people who utter them) rather negatively. I know this from personal experience. I do agree with you that partition is the only answer as the populace on both sides are too polarized to make unification work. Of course, the example of the American Civil War indicates the opposite, but it took force of arms and a particularly nasty policy of 'reconstruction' to make it happen.

[EPSILON]

All sensible persons are coming to the same conclusion EPSILON because it is the best thing for the island. We can fight it and again cause problems or work together.......

OK Zan, you have your reasons to support partition, I have mine. You respect Your Nation, I respect mine.This the way solutions can be found. This is the way freindship and coperation can be established.

You know, "fanatics" creating problems, "fanatics" can solve them.!

[Simon]

I would just like to correct an assumption of yours EPSILON. Turkey does not have the second most powerful army in NATO. They have the second largest, but that is a completely different point. For example, Britain's armed forces are far superior to Turkey's.

(By the way, I proposed an 80/20 split of Cyprus a long time ago).

[EPSILON]

I would just like to correct an assumption of yours EPSILON. Turkey does not have the second most powerful army in NATO. They have the second largest, but that is a completely different point. For example, Britain's armed forces are far superior to Turkey's.

In comparizon with National guard of Cyprus this makes no difference. My point is still valid.

[Simon]

Your point is valid as long as your facts are correct.

There is no danger of the Cypriot National Guard trying to remove Turkish troops by force (on its own at least) in any event. Of course it would be ridiculous to attempt this.