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Turkish Cypriots Three musts

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Postby shahmaran » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:22 pm

They? No one needs to convince anyone over here, you simply have to be born and raised here thats all.

All i see around me is the left overs of what used to be a mixed culture way before my time. So lets not totally ignore the past to quickly get to the assumptions that, all we ever wanted was "exclusive rights" to a piece of land. It wasnt us who brought the island to where it is now, not us alone anyways.
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Re: Turkish Cypriots Three musts

Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:36 pm

umit07 wrote:I see that a national identity as just being a "CYPRIOT" does not exist ( if their was such a national identity between the two major communities in Cyprus we would never be in the situation we are in now).

I am a 100% Cypriot as I have no affiliations whatsoever with Greece or Turkey but I can understand those of you that do living in a dilemma and unknowingly being the crux of the Cyprus problem.

As true 100% Cypriots increase in number so too does Cypriot Nationalism grow and out of that emerges the unity and strength of Cyprus essential for her survival and prosperity.

100% Cypriots are the future of Cyprus and to become one you need to acknowledge the wrongdoings of both Greece and Turkey against Cyprus and subsequently reject them as the enemies of Cyprus that they are for having robbed Cyprus of her inheritance and identity for centuries.

I wish you and every other Cypriot member of this forum the best of luck in becoming a 100% Cypriot.
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:23 pm

Shah,

Nations count time in centuries. In that span 33 years is nothing, a blink of an eye. It took 70 years for communism to rise, peak and then collapse. Germany was divided for 45 years and looking back now we cannot recall how it was divided. Cyprus has more organic roots than either of those. It has been through a lot worse in its history and has survived as one whole island. It will be so again. Artificial barriers cannot last anywhere, let alone on an island the size of Cyprus.
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Postby shahmaran » Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:26 pm

Get Real! wrote:
umit07 wrote:I see that a national identity as just being a "CYPRIOT" does not exist ( if their was such a national identity between the two major communities in Cyprus we would never be in the situation we are in now).

I am a 100% Cypriot as I have no affiliations whatsoever with Greece or Turkey but I can understand those of you that do living in a dilemma and unknowingly being the crux of the Cyprus problem.

As true 100% Cypriots increase in number so too does Cypriot Nationalism grow and out of that emerges the unity and strength of Cyprus essential for her survival and prosperity.

100% Cypriots are the future of Cyprus and to become one you need to acknowledge the wrongdoings of both Greece and Turkey against Cyprus and subsequently reject them as the enemies of Cyprus that they are for having robbed Cyprus of her inheritance and identity for centuries.

I wish you and every other Cypriot member of this forum the best of luck in becoming a 100% Cypriot.


Screw that, so what? If i don't acknowledge any affiliation with the RoC, does that make me less Cypriot?

That is the biggest load of crap i have heard in this forum in a long time, and that is saying something, considering the amount of irrational shit that flies around here this is definitely at the top of the pile! :roll:

I do not need the RoC to nor some random GC to affirm my "Cypriotness", i can do that by myself pretty well thank you, and no one, not even the international community can tell me otherwise!
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:38 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
umit07 wrote:I see that a national identity as just being a "CYPRIOT" does not exist ( if their was such a national identity between the two major communities in Cyprus we would never be in the situation we are in now).

I am a 100% Cypriot as I have no affiliations whatsoever with Greece or Turkey but I can understand those of you that do living in a dilemma and unknowingly being the crux of the Cyprus problem.

As true 100% Cypriots increase in number so too does Cypriot Nationalism grow and out of that emerges the unity and strength of Cyprus essential for her survival and prosperity.

100% Cypriots are the future of Cyprus and to become one you need to acknowledge the wrongdoings of both Greece and Turkey against Cyprus and subsequently reject them as the enemies of Cyprus that they are for having robbed Cyprus of her inheritance and identity for centuries.

I wish you and every other Cypriot member of this forum the best of luck in becoming a 100% Cypriot.


Screw that, so what? If i don't acknowledge any affiliation with the RoC, does that make me less Cypriot?

That is the biggest load of crap i have heard in this forum in a long time, and that is saying something, considering the amount of irrational shit that flies around here this is definitely at the top of the pile! :roll:

I do not need the RoC to nor some random GC to affirm my "Cypriotness", i can do that by myself pretty well thank you, and no one, not even the international community can tell me otherwise!

My post had nothing to do with an affiliation to the RoC and everything to do with some people’s affiliation to Greece or Turkey…the root of the Cyprus problem.
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Postby shahmaran » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:56 pm

Yes you very cunningly tell us that you are 100% Cypriot because you have no affiliations with neither Greece nor Turkey but you "understand those who do"....
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:12 pm

shahmaran wrote:Yes you very cunningly tell us that you are 100% Cypriot because you have no affiliations with neither Greece nor Turkey but you "understand those who do"....

Sure, I understand their dilemma deriving from that affiliation but what is your point?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:32 pm

The we are Cypriot hipe is the GC way of saying let us rule as we are the majority and you accept being just another minority without community rights. As long as you accept this then you can live together with us in the "RoC". Well hear this we do not trust GCs to act or rule this country without discrimination on their own so we need loads of safeguards to ensure they act in proper manner and know exactly what the outcome will be if they eve step out of line or do anything to undermine or exclude the TCs in the running of this island.
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Postby phoenix » Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:56 pm

Viewpoint wrote:The we are Cypriot hipe is the GC way of saying let us rule as we are the majority and you accept being just another minority without community rights. As long as you accept this then you can live together with us in the "RoC". Well hear this we do not trust GCs to act or rule this country without discrimination on their own so we need loads of safeguards to ensure they act in proper manner and know exactly what the outcome will be if they eve step out of line or do anything to undermine or exclude the TCs in the running of this island.


Not trusting the GCs is only to be expected from you because you ARE racist.

You have excluded yourselves from running the island!
It appears like you are unable to help run any country . . . preferring instead to being ruled by Turkey . . .
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:24 pm

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Not trusting the GCs is only to be expected from you because you ARE racist.


It has nothing to do with being racists but based only on your past record of handling TCs in the "Roc". You are iding behinf the racist label in fear of having to address the real issue as to how will we ensure you do not repeat the mistakes of the past and injustices against our community.

You have excluded yourselves from running the island!


You were the ones that rejected the AP and before that it was Gcs that kicked us out and would not allow us to return until we accpeted the Akritas plan co wirriten by your current leader.

It appears like you are unable to help run any country . . . preferring instead to being ruled by Turkey . . .


Why does that concern you? Our dealings with Turkey are our business and have nothing to do with you.
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