Birkibrisli wrote:zan wrote:Birkibrisli wrote:Zan....the first part of your post goes over old ground...So if you don't mind I will just answer your questions:Three Questions.....
I did not see you mention visiting the TRNC in your posts??????
Do you ever intend sorting out the national service business...£3000 means not having to do a day.
Do you want to get to vote in the TRNC......It can be arranged apparently...Get in touch with me.
That is because I did not visit the trnc...
I intend to sort out the national service business asap...So that I can go and observe the "turkification"process at first hand...And to visit my old Uncles and Aunts before they pass on...
I have no wish to ever vote in the trnc...Like I have no desire to write on water...
Great so as I have said...At what point did you lose faith that a Turk will never be able to make the right decision for the good of it's own people. And on the other point...Why the hell do you want to get the army out of the way...You might as well become a Greek and have done with it. I am sure that those friends of yours in the "RoC" can get you a whole new identity and then you can visit and laugh at us TCs as a GC.
You don't have faith in us and you don't want to join the fight to better ourselves and win our right to self determination or encourage TCs to move back home but are quick to condemn every move we make....You then speak of hope but not for us
The problem is not that I don't trust a Turk to make the right decision for his/her people...It is that I don't trust a Turk to make a right decision for Turkish Cypriots...What is right for Turks and Turkey is not necessarily right for TCs...Time you people lifted your heads from the sand and realised this fact...
I want to fix my national service business in the North because I want to be able to visit every part of my country whenever I wish...And I want to test it for myself to see whether I will be as revolted by what I will find in the trnc as I think I would...As far as I am concerned to want to be a state of the Republic of Turkey is not "self determination" but "self-denial"...It is committing "ethnic cleansing" on your own community...
Trust me,dear Zan.If things are as bad as I think they are in the North I will not be laughing...I will be crying my heart out...
You know very well what I meant about using the word Turk and that included us, the TC as well. The decisions that can be made by us in our own state. You have been trying to sell us the "RoC' as the saviour of our Turkish problem and clearly is not. The example I will give is the one that you have experienced on this forum. You asked twice, for back up from those that you see as Cypriots on here and neither time a single person has done that. Please don't tell me you do not know what I am talking about because if the lack of backup did not leave a lasting image on your mind then all I can say is that you were not serious in the first place.
Self determination is exactly what I want as well but we seem to be at loggerheads as to how we need to go about getting it. Instead of working with the TCs on the island and those that show an interest outside, you want us to put our trust in an obviously hostile government that has every intention of getting rid of every trace of us by what ever method.
I have to give heads up to all those that wish to do their national service. The ease with which you can do this service is fooling so many people as to what exactly it means. Whether you serve a full period or just pay and not do a single day, you are signing your name to the TRNC.
In the event of a war you WILL be called upon and if you choose not to come you will be deemed a traitor. There is no getting out of this as far as I can see but I am willing to be advised on this. Make sure you know what you are signing up for. It is not a visa for tourists. I am willing to make that pledge for my peoples sake although I have not got a violent bone in my body....Are you? I want to get involved in the whole shebang and get my right to vote. Be serious about what you want.
