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[Bananiot]

Piratis you do not live in another planet. You live in Cyprus. Do you not remember the huge posters of Papadopoulos during the presidential campaign of late 2002 and early 2003? Would you like me to refresh your memory (and that of GR)? What was the message that was written in bold, capital letters at the bottom of his picture?

"I VOUTCH TO SOLVE THE CYPRUS PROBLEM ON THE BASIS OF THE ANNAN PLAN"

Was he telling us a lie at the time too? Does this man think he can lie to the whole world and get away with it? Remove the blinkers Piratis (and GR). It is about time you see the real world once again!

Papadopoulos is destroying our island. Another five years of Papadopoulos and his fascist minded, thick-headed supporters (Koulias, Pittokopitis, Angelides, Koutsou, Rikkos etc) and there will be only ashes left.

[Pyrpolizer]

Bananiot,

What the words "ON THE BASIS" of the Annan Plan mean? Who defines what that BASIS is and how far it extends? How many plans can there be on that BASIS and which one of those would we ever accept?

It's one thing to manipulate (or cheat) people to vote for a catastrophic plan, and another to control them after they open their eyes and see they have been cheated. Do you want to see another circle of bloodshed in Cyprus?

ANY PLAN that will violate peoples rights on their PROPERTIES will lead to another bloodshed. I said it before and I repeat it today:The owner of property must retain his property rights. If the property was developed then we should have 2 title deeds one for the land and one for the building. The one who owns the building will be required to pay rent to the one who has the land for a period as long as the lifetime of the building i.e for about 70 years and then demolish it. Any other individual arrangements between the 2 owners should also be acceptable, the above rule should apply when the 2 individuals don't reach another arrangement.

[umit07]

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"British Cypriots" protested

[phoenix]

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"British Cypriots" protested

Oh yes, . . . . you're the one who only recognises the label "Turkish Cypriot" . . . the term "Cypriot" to be attached for exclusive and sole patented use by Turks!

[Piratis]

Piratis you do not live in another planet. You live in Cyprus. Do you not remember the huge posters of Papadopoulos during the presidential campaign of late 2002 and early 2003? Would you like me to refresh your memory (and that of GR)? What was the message that was written in bold, capital letters at the bottom of his picture?

"I VOUTCH TO SOLVE THE CYPRUS PROBLEM ON THE BASIS OF THE ANNAN PLAN"

Was he telling us a lie at the time too? Does this man think he can lie to the whole world and get away with it? Remove the blinkers Piratis (and GR). It is about time you see the real world once again!

Papadopoulos is destroying our island. Another five years of Papadopoulos and his fascist minded, thick-headed supporters (Koulias, Pittokopitis, Angelides, Koutsou, Rikkos etc) and there will be only ashes left.

What I remember is that Papadopoulos said that Annan plan would be the basis for negotiations and NOT the "basis for a solution" as his opponents wanted. Maybe you are the one whose memory gone bad.

And Annan plan was the basis of negotiations when Papadopoulos took over, until negotiations ended because the AngloAmericans were rushing to finish off RoC before we entered the EU, and Annan "filled in the gabs" all in favor of Turkey. Then that one sided partition plan was brought to the Cypriot people, who obviously rejected it once and for all.

So don't try to tell us that we that voted for Papadopoulos and we will vote for him again voted for him because we wanted the Annan plan. Those that wanted the Annan plan did not vote for Papadopoulos, and this is crystal clear. On the contrary Cleredes was promising that he would not accept the Annan plan either unless significant changes that would satisfy our side were made. Or did you forget about that?

Papadopoulos, never promised to anybody that we would accept whatever is given to us either. That would be a betrayal, that maybe other did, but not Papadopoulos.

[Get Real!]

So don't try to tell us that we that voted for Papadopoulos and we will vote for him again voted for him because we wanted the Annan plan.

I'm convinced that Piratis is my long lost twin brother...

Bro... is that you?

[Bananiot]

You have a short memory Piratis but now I will also get some of my own back using your arguments of the past. You are in the minority Piratis, you must be wrong. What right do you have to question the wisdom of the majority?

Minority Piratis! Your President commands about 31% of the popular vote at this instance (and falling) according to the gallops. His three opponents (all of whom disagree with his handling of the cyprob), have a massive 69%. Therefore, Papadopoulos (who had eight secret meetings with Denktash junior) cannot claim now that he represents the popular opinion. If we can agree that the cyprob is our main issue he should call it a day and go home. Of course he can do what his supporter Archbishop Chrysostomos did in order to get elected with hardly 10% of the vote. Perhaps you can tell us who he can pull this one out of the hat.

P.S. Papadopoulos deceived the AKEL faithful by promising that he would solve the issue on the basis of the Annan Plan. Without AKEL he could not possibly become President. Yet, Papadopoulos thinks he can deceive the world all the time, without being punished. His time, Piratis, is running short. Soon it will be Bye Bye dopoulos!

[MR-from-NG]

Piratis you do not live in another planet. You live in Cyprus. Do you not remember the huge posters of Papadopoulos during the presidential campaign of late 2002 and early 2003? Would you like me to refresh your memory (and that of GR)? What was the message that was written in bold, capital letters at the bottom of his picture?

"I VOUTCH TO SOLVE THE CYPRUS PROBLEM ON THE BASIS OF THE ANNAN PLAN"

Was he telling us a lie at the time too? Does this man think he can lie to the whole world and get away with it? Remove the blinkers Piratis (and GR). It is about time you see the real world once again!

Papadopoulos is destroying our island. Another five years of Papadopoulos and his fascist minded, thick-headed supporters (Koulias, Pittokopitis, Angelides, Koutsou, Rikkos etc) and there will be only ashes left.

What I remember is that Papadopoulos said that Annan plan would be the basis for negotiations and NOT the "basis for a solution" as his opponents wanted. Maybe you are the one whose memory gone bad.

And Annan plan was the basis of negotiations when Papadopoulos took over, until negotiations ended because the AngloAmericans were rushing to finish off RoC before we entered the EU, and Annan "filled in the gabs" all in favor of Turkey. Then that one sided partition plan was brought to the Cypriot people, who obviously rejected it once and for all.

So don't try to tell us that we that voted for Papadopoulos and we will vote for him again voted for him because we wanted the Annan plan. Those that wanted the Annan plan did not vote for Papadopoulos, and this is crystal clear. On the contrary Cleredes was promising that he would not accept the Annan plan either unless significant changes that would satisfy our side were made. Or did you forget about that?

Papadopoulos, never promised to anybody that we would accept whatever is given to us either. That would be a betrayal, that maybe other did, but not Papadopoulos.

If bullshitting was an added event to the olympics Piratis would win gold for Cyprus every time .

BANANIOT FOR PRESIDENT

[Get Real!]

...Papadopoulos thinks he can deceive the world all the time, without being punished.

Yes, it's making headlines all over the world... "Papadopoulos deceives the world and must be punished!" ...what are we going to hear from the opposition next? "Papadopoulos destroyed the universe!"

[Bananiot]

No, just Cyprus ...