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Postby phoenix » Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:18 am

Mills Chapman wrote:
phoenix wrote:... and boy am I pissed off with you Yanks for introducing it to us! .. Thanks . . . but are you ever going to introduce anything worthwhile? :roll:


Uh, on July 4, 1776 we introduced the Declaration of Independence, a statement ridding us of a nasty and arrogant imperialist power that was horribly taxing us. When we told them to "be gone," they didn't listen and sailed over across the pond to make us kneel before them, but they eventually sailed home with their tail between their legs. :P :P :P :lol:

Several other emerging countries (like the Vietnamese against the French) modeled their independence declarations off the US's Declaration of Independence. Hardly anyone knows that Ho Chi Minh was inspired by the US's 1776 statement and based Vietnam's proclamation in 1946 off of it. He approached Harry Truman (president of the US then) for help against the French, but Truman refused and aided the French instead. This could have prevented America's war against Vietnam. Aargh.

oranos64, many Christians and Muslims in the US celebrate Halloween too, but we just don't pay that much attention to the history behind the holiday. It's just a fun time for children to dress up in costumes and collect candy from the neighbors.



Sorry Mills, I still abide by my request for the U.S. to introduce anything worthwhile (not just a re-hash of existing policy) :D
The Declaration was drafted by Thomas Jefferson, with only minor participation by a committee that included John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Roger Sherman, and Robert Livingston, pursuant to a resolution of the Second Continental Congress. It was adopted by Congress on 4 July 1776. Jefferson himself belittled the originality of his work, stating that, though he penned the Declaration without consulting other sources, it contained nothing novel in the way of political thought. In this, he was correct: the basic theory of the Declaration was derivative of the thought of Locke and reflected English Whig theory as it had evolved in the preceding century and a half. George Mason had anticipated much of the substance of Jefferson's ideas in his draft of the Virginia Declaration of Rights (12 June 1776), though the literary grace and felicity of Jefferson's Declaration eclipsed the ponderous lawyer's couplets and triplets of the Virginia Declaration.
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Postby oranos64 » Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:51 am

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phoenix wrote:... and boy am I pissed off with you Yanks for introducing it to us! .. Thanks . . . but are you ever going to introduce anything worthwhile? :roll:


Uh, on July 4, 1776 we introduced the Declaration of Independence, a statement ridding us of a nasty and arrogant imperialist power that was horribly taxing us. When we told them to "be gone," they didn't listen and sailed over across the pond to make us kneel before them, but they eventually sailed home with their tail between their legs. :P :P :P :lol:

Several other emerging countries (like the Vietnamese against the French) modeled their independence declarations off the US's Declaration of Independence. Hardly anyone knows that Ho Chi Minh was inspired by the US's 1776 statement and based Vietnam's proclamation in 1946 off of it. He approached Harry Truman (president of the US then) for help against the French, but Truman refused and aided the French instead. This could have prevented America's war against Vietnam. Aargh.

oranos64, many Christians and Muslims in the US celebrate Halloween too, but we just don't pay that much attention to the history behind the holiday. It's just a fun time for children to dress up in costumes and collect candy from the neighbors.


madam /sir ...we do not ... christian nations such as ITALY ,SPAIN celebrate similar events ...greeks do too ...but being orthodox we dont promote nor encourage our children to dress up as spooks ,killers ,vampires ,nazis (prince harry )dracula ..

when you narrow down this event ...it has been hijacked by idiots and satanic groups in the U.S AND UK ... it is not a celebrating at all but rather an event which glorifies all that is wrong in the world ...

SORRY in cyprus we are very strict like other christian nations regarding the images of satan ,devils ,vampires etc .

with all due respect halloween is crap ..its an excuse to eat sweets for kids and get fat and stay up late ...the local kids do that enough anyway ... they dont need to dress up as an excuse ...

p.s ...happy halloween ....
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Postby T_C » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:00 am

You should know...what kind of Cypriot are you???

1st of October is the RoCs independece day! :roll:
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Postby T_C » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:02 am

oranos64 wrote:
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phoenix wrote:
T_C wrote:Even the TCs celebrate Halloween but not on the same day as the rest.

1st October is when we celebrate it in the north! :lol: :lol:


You are SO weird! :roll:

But perky! :D


I'm UNIQUE! :P

Besides...it was a joke...did you get it????


NO SHE DIDNT ..EXPLAIN . D HEAD


Charming... :roll:
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Postby Mills Chapman » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:13 am

My dear friend Phoenix,

Good point about the D.o.I. and Jefferson. (Darn!! :) )

Hmm... regarding the US introducing something new, I thought I would show you a photo of several planes of your country's flag carrier. All the planes are Boeing 747s, the first double-decker jet airplane in the world.
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oranos64, you're right about what Halloween really means, and I know a fair amount of families that don't celebrate it. Happy All Saints Day! (November 1st.)
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Postby phoenix » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:17 am

Mills Chapman wrote:My dear friend Phoenix,

Good point about the D.o.I. and Jefferson. (Darn!! :) )

Hmm... regarding the US introducing something new, I thought I would show you a photo of several planes of your country's flag carrier. All the planes are Boeing 747s, the first double-decker jet airplane in the world.
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oranos64, you're right about what Halloween really means, and I know a fair amount of families that don't celebrate it. Happy All Saints Day! (November 1st.)


Mills my son keeps going on about those planes . . . but I thought they were a joint British / French venture?

Will show him your picture in the morning (if he is not too ill from the Halloween treats! :lol: )
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Postby Mills Chapman » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:31 am

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Mills Chapman wrote:My dear friend Phoenix,

Good point about the D.o.I. and Jefferson. (Darn!! :) )

Hmm... regarding the US introducing something new, I thought I would show you a photo of several planes of your country's flag carrier. All the planes are Boeing 747s, the first double-decker jet airplane in the world.
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oranos64, you're right about what Halloween really means, and I know a fair amount of families that don't celebrate it. Happy All Saints Day! (November 1st.)


Mills my son keeps going on about those planes . . . but I thought they were a joint British / French venture?

Will show him your picture in the morning (if he is not too ill from the Halloween treats! :lol: )


You may be thinking of the Airbus planes. Apparently BA has both Airbus and Boeing planes. (Boeing ones are made in Seattle in the US). Also for the Boeing planes, BA apparently insisted from the beginning that Rolls-Royce engines be used. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways#Fleet

So while those planes in the photo may have been introduced by Americans, the engines are British. However, I can assure you that all of British Airways flights have on board something else first created by Americans ... :) :) :)

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You might say that coca-cola is not a useful invention, but where would dentisty industry be if there was no coca-cola to rot our teeth?
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Postby oranos64 » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:36 am

phoenix wrote:
Mills Chapman wrote:My dear friend Phoenix,

Good point about the D.o.I. and Jefferson. (Darn!! :) )

Hmm... regarding the US introducing something new, I thought I would show you a photo of several planes of your country's flag carrier. All the planes are Boeing 747s, the first double-decker jet airplane in the world.
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oranos64, you're right about what Halloween really means, and I know a fair amount of families that don't celebrate it. Happy All Saints Day! (November 1st.)


Mills my son keeps going on about those planes . . . but I thought they were a joint British / French venture?

Will show him your picture in the morning (if he is not too ill from the Halloween treats! :lol: )


Boeing a american company and they make fanstic aircraft and spending millions on research ....747s are amazing planes

BRITAIN DOES NOT REALLY MAKE AIRCRAFT ANYMORE ON ITS OWN ..THATCHER AND COMMERICAL COMPETITION MADE SURE OF THAT ..

Phoniex ....UK/FRENCH .MADE THE CONCORDE
AIRBUS AND EADS ETC ...ARE EURO AIRCRAFT ...

long live the US ..AIR FORCE ,US. AERO /RESEARCH DEPTS ,NASA AND MCDONNEL DOUGLAS ....

GOOD POINT //GOD BLESS COCA COLA ,BURGER KING ...WWE WRESTLING , AMERICAN LAND AND PEOPLE FOR BEING FUNNY AND SPEAKING BETTER ENGLISH ,THAN THE ENGLISH ... O AND GIVING US ALL THE RIGHT TO READ ,RESEARCH AND IMPROVE OURSELVES ..AT OUR WORK ,OUR LIVES ETC

YEP ,,, CHECK TONY ROBBINS OUT ....IF YOU CAN ,...
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Postby phoenix » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:39 am

Mills Chapman wrote:
phoenix wrote:
Mills Chapman wrote:My dear friend Phoenix,

Good point about the D.o.I. and Jefferson. (Darn!! :) )

Hmm... regarding the US introducing something new, I thought I would show you a photo of several planes of your country's flag carrier. All the planes are Boeing 747s, the first double-decker jet airplane in the world.
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oranos64, you're right about what Halloween really means, and I know a fair amount of families that don't celebrate it. Happy All Saints Day! (November 1st.)


Mills my son keeps going on about those planes . . . but I thought they were a joint British / French venture?

Will show him your picture in the morning (if he is not too ill from the Halloween treats! :lol: )


You may be thinking of the Airbus planes. Apparently BA has both Airbus and Boeing planes. (Boeing ones are made in Seattle in the US). Also for the Boeing planes, BA apparently insisted from the beginning that Rolls-Royce engines be used. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways#Fleet

So while those planes in the photo may have been introduced by Americans, the engines are British. However, I can assure you that all of British Airways flights have on board something else first created by Americans ... :) :) :)

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You might say that coca-cola is not a useful invention, but where would dentistry industry be if there was no coca-cola to rot our teeth?


My husband appreciates the destructive nature of phosphoric acid (aka Coca Cola) and is appreciative of its role in keeping him in happy employment teaching dental students :D

Personally I can get very high on a can . . . yum!
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Postby Niki » Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:57 am

We had a great traditionally 'British' kids party last night - apple ducking, flour tower, Nelsons bones.....

Our kids and the Cypriot kids had a great time (and the adults had a few glasses) with no trick or treat. Kids love gore, dressing up and scary stuff so I would suggest everyone lightens up and sees it for what it is - a bit of fun, not an excuse to insult other cultures.

Personally I like any excuse for a get together! :D
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