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[Andros]

Hi All,

I have been told by my many Market-trader contacts from Greece that "Northern Cyprus" is fast becoming known as a "Working" country thanks to the non-resolution efforts of the Cyprus peace process!

In addition, I was also informed that, even though the so-called "TRNC" is not officially recognised, it does not necessarily mean that it’s not viewed as a "Country", namely, "Northern Cyprus". This, in my view, is extremely disturbing.

In other words, are we facing a situation where the failure to reach a resolution of the Cyprus problem, together with the existence of an occupied Northern area for such a long period of time since the 1974 invasion, is now being viewed as a Country (now commonly referred to as "Northern Cyprus" in Turkish holiday brochures). With the constant referral of the removal of the so-called isolation of "Northern Cyprus", do you think the international community is preparing, or has prepared a Taiwan style acknowledgement of the occupied area as "Northern Cyprus" the country?

Why do I ask such a series of questions? Because even FIFA has made it apparent that, even though they would never accept the so-called TRNC as it's not an accepted and recognised state due to the amount of UN Resolutions against it, they could accept the application of "Northern Cyprus" as a country! Therefore, my ultimate question to us all is, is there a DIFFERENCE BETWEEN the term “REPUBLIC” and “COUNTRY”?

Is this what's going on with the call to remove the so-called ISOLATION of "Northern Cyprus", as opposed removing the isolation of the so-called TRNC?

What do you think is going on?

Personally, I think that the international community is trying to promote "Northern Cyprus" as a Euro-Taiwan style in order to push us to accepting an Annan like plan in the near future by threatening us with a semi-recognised Northern Cyprus.

Or, are they (being the International community - say no more!) legitimising Northern Cyprus as an official province of Turkey? Like say Wales of the United Kingdom, as, why else would have “Northern Cyprus” have been mentioned in an agreement between Turkey and the UK. In other words, what has Northern Cyprus actually got to do with the Republic of Turkey?

It all appears to be getting out of hand and I hope our leaders are ready. I am not a politician, but we are not stupid either!

[iceman]

Good morning Andros.

[yiannisP]

In other words, are we facing a situation where the failure to reach a resolution of the Cyprus problem, together with the existence of an occupied Northern area for such a long period of time since the 1974 invasion, is now being viewed as a Country (now commonly referred to as "Northern Cyprus" in Turkish holiday brochures). With the constant referral of the removal of the so-called isolation of "Northern Cyprus", do you think the international community is preparing, or has prepared a Taiwan style acknowledgement of the occupied area as "Northern Cyprus" the country?

You're probably right. They knew that by dragging out the occupation for as long as possible any chance of reclaiming property and land would deminish. The only realistic improvement of the situation would have come from Britain or America, but alas what do they care since they're content with their military installations? I guess we'll have to wait and see on how the EU deals with the situation, although the current signing of the Britain Turkey agreement doesn't fill me with hope.

[denizaksulu]

Hi All,

I have been told by my many Market-trader contacts from Greece that "Northern Cyprus" is fast becoming known as a "Working" country thanks to the non-resolution efforts of the Cyprus peace process!

In addition, I was also informed that, even though the so-called "TRNC" is not officially recognised, it does not necessarily mean that it’s not viewed as a "Country", namely, "Northern Cyprus". This, in my view, is extremely disturbing.

In other words, are we facing a situation where the failure to reach a resolution of the Cyprus problem, together with the existence of an occupied Northern area for such a long period of time since the 1974 invasion, is now being viewed as a Country (now commonly referred to as "Northern Cyprus" in Turkish holiday brochures). With the constant referral of the removal of the so-called isolation of "Northern Cyprus", do you think the international community is preparing, or has prepared a Taiwan style acknowledgement of the occupied area as "Northern Cyprus" the country?

Why do I ask such a series of questions? Because even FIFA has made it apparent that, even though they would never accept the so-called TRNC as it's not an accepted and recognised state due to the amount of UN Resolutions against it, they could accept the application of "Northern Cyprus" as a country! Therefore, my ultimate question to us all is, is there a DIFFERENCE BETWEEN the term “REPUBLIC” and “COUNTRY”?

Is this what's going on with the call to remove the so-called ISOLATION of "Northern Cyprus", as opposed removing the isolation of the so-called TRNC?

What do you think is going on?

Personally, I think that the international community is trying to promote "Northern Cyprus" as a Euro-Taiwan style in order to push us to accepting an Annan like plan in the near future by threatening us with a semi-recognised Northern Cyprus.

Or, are they (being the International community - say no more!) legitimising Northern Cyprus as an official province of Turkey? Like say Wales of the United Kingdom, as, why else would have “Northern Cyprus” have been mentioned in an agreement between Turkey and the UK. In other words, what has Northern Cyprus actually got to do with the Republic of Turkey?

It all appears to be getting out of hand and I hope our leaders are ready. I am not a politician, but we are not stupid either!

Problem?................What problem? The world at large is gradually seeing The North as a country to deal with. Where is the problem? The problem I think is your leadership.

[phoenix]

Andros

You are obsessed with the status of the pseudo "TRNC".

What have a load of Holiday brochure got to do with anything on the political spectrum ?

It is your expression of "veiled" worries such as these that make me concerned you do not have the best interests of the Roc at heart!

Find a legitimate cause for worry that the "TRNC" is gaining any recognition or repute then worry . . . right now it as as dead as a dodo and as out in daylight as a bat in a cave!

[phoenix]

And how dare you call it "Northern Cyprus" even if using quotation marks.

Are you out to cause trouble for the RoC ?

[iceman]

And how dare you call it "Northern Cyprus" even if using quotation marks.

Are you out to cause trouble for the RoC ?

Oh dear....Andros,you are in deep shit now..

[Nikitas]

The key to how European attitudes will develop over Cyprus will be Belgium. The two communities of Belgium are having a tough time reconciling their differences and there is talk of a split. It will be a test case for Europe proper, as these are not peripheral Slavs and Albanians or Greeks and Turks disagreeing, these are the hosts of European Union headquarters in Brussels. So keep an eye out to see how Europe handles that kind of problem at its HQ. It will be interesting.

[phoenix]

And how dare you call it "Northern Cyprus" even if using quotation marks.

Are you out to cause trouble for the RoC ?

Oh dear....Andros,you are in deep shit now..

Hello iceman

Warn him will you . . . I am sure he is one of yours in disguise

[DT.]

Hi All,

I have been told by my many Market-trader contacts from Greece that "Northern Cyprus" is fast becoming known as a "Working" country thanks to the non-resolution efforts of the Cyprus peace process!

In addition, I was also informed that, even though the so-called "TRNC" is not officially recognised, it does not necessarily mean that it’s not viewed as a "Country", namely, "Northern Cyprus". This, in my view, is extremely disturbing.

In other words, are we facing a situation where the failure to reach a resolution of the Cyprus problem, together with the existence of an occupied Northern area for such a long period of time since the 1974 invasion, is now being viewed as a Country (now commonly referred to as "Northern Cyprus" in Turkish holiday brochures). With the constant referral of the removal of the so-called isolation of "Northern Cyprus", do you think the international community is preparing, or has prepared a Taiwan style acknowledgement of the occupied area as "Northern Cyprus" the country?

Why do I ask such a series of questions? Because even FIFA has made it apparent that, even though they would never accept the so-called TRNC as it's not an accepted and recognised state due to the amount of UN Resolutions against it, they could accept the application of "Northern Cyprus" as a country! Therefore, my ultimate question to us all is, is there a DIFFERENCE BETWEEN the term “REPUBLIC” and “COUNTRY”?

Is this what's going on with the call to remove the so-called ISOLATION of "Northern Cyprus", as opposed removing the isolation of the so-called TRNC?

What do you think is going on?

Personally, I think that the international community is trying to promote "Northern Cyprus" as a Euro-Taiwan style in order to push us to accepting an Annan like plan in the near future by threatening us with a semi-recognised Northern Cyprus.

Or, are they (being the International community - say no more!) legitimising Northern Cyprus as an official province of Turkey? Like say Wales of the United Kingdom, as, why else would have “Northern Cyprus” have been mentioned in an agreement between Turkey and the UK. In other words, what has Northern Cyprus actually got to do with the Republic of Turkey?

It all appears to be getting out of hand and I hope our leaders are ready. I am not a politician, but we are not stupid either!

Andros, how the hell do a couple of market makers and traders qualify as knowing the latest status of the "trnc"?