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by **phoenix** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:24 am

For the delectation of our TC and Turk participants:

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?storyID=9260

Never say Phoenix doesn't care about Turkish culture . . .

by **oranos64** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:13 am

why do they do that and get so dizzy ...i have an old mate who does that in clubs ..no teeth left ...

by **phoenix** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:47 am

oranos64 wrote:why do they do that and get so dizzy ...i have an old mate who does that in clubs ..no teeth left ...

I think they must focus on a landmark in front of them, then re-focus on that every time they spin around, and that stops them getting dizzy (same as in ballet).

by **denizaksulu** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:33 am

oranos64 wrote:why do they do that and get so dizzy ...i have an old mate who does that in clubs ..no teeth left ...

by **denizaksulu** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:39 am

denizaksulu wrote:
oranos64 wrote:why do they do that and get so dizzy ...i have an old mate who does that in clubs ..no teeth left ...

If you are trained properly, you need not get dizzy. You only get dizzy if you allow your awareness to dissipate. While the speed with which you turn is gradually increased your concentration is focused at only one area. You could try it . Its so easy. Female whirling Dervishes among the Nahsibendi followers of the Mevlevis have been attending semas for quite a while. But I still thank Phoenix to bringing this to our friends attention.
Celalleddin Rumi had called all peoples to his Sema's (whirling dance) whether they were Muslim, Christian and Idolaters. He was a Humanist and everybody was welcomed at his ceremonies to partake.

Regards

by **karma** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:31 am

I adore their philosophy and envy Rumi & Shams love..

wana listen to a Cypriot dervish??

Ladies and gentlemen, Cat Stevens presents..

by **halil** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:32 am

denizaksulu wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
oranos64 wrote:why do they do that and get so dizzy ...i have an old mate who does that in clubs ..no teeth left ...

If you are trained properly, you need not get dizzy. You only get dizzy if you allow your awareness to dissipate. While the speed with which you turn is gradually increased your concentration is focused at only one area. You could try it . Its so easy. Female whirling Dervishes among the Nahsibendi followers of the Mevlevis have been attending semas for quite a while. But I still thank Phoenix to bringing this to our friends attention.
Celalleddin Rumi had called all peoples to his Sema's (whirling dance) whether they were Muslim, Christian and Idolaters. He was a Humanist and everybody was welcomed at his ceremonies to partake.

Regards

Deniz,
Celalleddin Rumi he also said ,
Come, Come again !
Whatever you are...
Whether you are infidel, idolater or fireworshipper.
Whether you have broken your vows of repentance a hundred times
This is not the gate of despair,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wEUzuxwtCo

This is the gate of hope. Come, come again..

forum members have a look

by **eternal** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:18 am

Rumi is one of my favouites,

If you are irritated by every rub,
how will your mirror be polished?

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when a candle flickers in darkness, the moth flies
into the flame and is consumed. The candle of god flickers in the darkness of the world; let us fly towards the flame, and be consumed by gods love.

by **denizaksulu** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:28 am

eternal wrote:Rumi is one of my favouites,

If you are irritated by every rub,
how will your mirror be polished?

********************
when a candle flickers in darkness, the moth flies
into the flame and is consumed. The candle of god flickers in the darkness of the world; let us fly towards the flame, and be consumed by gods love.

Thats beautiful. I missed that one. Even intranslation has a strong message.

Thanks
DA

by **halil** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:48 am

Poems From Mevlana Rumi
http://www.mevlana.ws/modules.php?name= ... le&artid=2

Drink all your passion,
and be a disgrace.

Close both eyes
to see with the other eye.

Open your hands,
if you want to be held.

Sit down in this circle.
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If you haven't left child's play,
how can you be an adult?
Without purity of spirit,
if you are still in the middle of lust and greed
and other wantings, you're like children
playing at sexual intercourse.
They wrestle
and rub together, but it's not sex!

The same with the fightings of mankind.
It's a squabble with play-swords.
No purpose, totally futile.
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