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Relations between Cyprus and Britain worsen

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Postby Eliko » Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:28 pm

miltiades wrote:There have been many disgusting obnoxious individuals on this forum in the past , but you are one of the most loathsome nauseatingly insolent and obscene poster ever. Are you aware that some very young persons might be watching this Cyprus forum and your persistent use of foul language might be offensive to them , so take a run and jump and don't insult our intelligence with your crappy posts .


Well spoken miltiades, I have just returned from a short absence and am delighted to note that you have taken exception to the use of foul language on the forum, I will be in Cyprus for a period of 10 days, after which I must again depart for a short spell in Europe.

I do hope we may be able to exchange views in a slightly more convivial manner henceforth.

May I also add my condemnation of the disgusting cartoon (which so roused your indignation) for precisely the same reasons you have indicated ?.

Best Wishes and God Bless. :wink:
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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:35 pm

Letter to Gordon Brown....

Dear Prime Minister

May we commend you on your recent commitment alongside the Prime Minister of Turkey to help end the isolation of Cypriots living in the occupied north of Cyprus. This is a worthy goal shared by everyone devoted to restoring the human rights and dignity of the island's long-suffering people as a whole.

With this in mind, we trust you reminded Mr Erdogan that it is of course Turkey who maintains over 40,000 troops on the island, in breach of dozens of UN Security Council resolutions that call for their immediate and unconditional withdrawal. We trust also you reminded him that it is of course Turkey who, in disregard of international law, has brought in tens of thousands of Turkish citizens to change the demography of the island and complicate any future settlement. These settlers now outnumber indigenous Cypriots, many of whom were compelled to leave the island in search of a better life. We trust that you made it clear to Mr Erdogan that the reversal of these two factors entirely in the hands of Turkey and her military is the only effective and practical way to end the isolation of Cypriots in the occupied north. Of course, it would also do wonders for Turkey's problematic EU accession progress. Mr Erdogan would have benefited from hearing all this from a valued partner like the UK.

In any event, you're surely aware that, as a guarantor of Cyprus's territorial integrity, the UK is obliged to press Turkey to end her occupation of Cyprus. The validity of the sovereign bases at Dhekelia and Akrotiri is otherwise put into question, seriously undermining the UK's strategic interests in the Eastern Mediterranean. With this in mind, we question the appropriateness of referring to the political entity in the north of the island as the 'Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus', albeit in inverted commas. This is an illegitimate entity whose proclamation in 1983 was roundly condemned by the international community, including the UK, as seriously damaging efforts to solve to the Cyprus problem. Perhaps this reference was an unfortunate oversight, in which case the UK's strategic interests would best be served by retracting.

We also question the appropriateness of promoting direct commercial, economic, political and cultural contacts with Turkey's self-declared regime in the north, against the express wishes of the internationally recognised government of the Republic of Cyprus - a fellow Commonwealth country and EU partner - who has legitimate fears that the upgrading of the occupied north may further undermine efforts to reunify the island. Re-unification on a just and viable basis remains the express wish of the vast majority of the indigenous Cypriot people taken as a whole and this wish ought always to be respected. Furthermore there are no contacts that cannot be constructed adequately under the auspices of the legitimate authority over the territory of Cyprus. It is only the presence of Turkey's overwhelming occupying forces in the north that prevents this.

While we understand the Labour government's desire to maintain good relations with an important regional power, this ought not be at the expense of the UK's vital strategic interests on Cyprus itself, nor at the expense of international law and, perhaps most importantly, this country's international standing and dignity.

As a final note, the interests of the Labour party may not be served by alienating some 300,000 UK citizens of Cypriot origin, many of whom were or are descended from subjects of the British Empire when it was the colonial power on the island. UK Cypriots are natural Labour supporters and hold the balance of power in a number of key marginal constituencies in north London and elsewhere. UK Cypriots are furthermore now a well established, resourceful, fully integrated and influential constituency within UK society whose views need to be fully reflected in the formulation of UK government policy, at home and abroad.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:32 pm

who has legitimate fears that the upgrading of the occupied north may further undermine efforts to reunify the island. Re-unification

This is a joke, the above gets the biggest laugh. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Efforts? Which efforts are you talking about?
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:39 pm

Daemon wrote:And yes is better to fool your people what you can go against Europe and create brain-dead fanatics.

And why you didn’t say anything when Europe have said what the seaports in TRNC are illegal only because the GC’s say it and by this way they legalized them?

At least by shaking them they will have to activate their damaged brains.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

And you still insist to participate in such a highly political forum????

Europe never said such a thing. They were just allegations of Politis newspaper, that some employee, of some commissioner, told them such orally, such nonsense i.e.

How pathetic and easy believer you are! :P :P :P
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:51 pm

clive of payia wrote:Papa Doc will in the end do nothing. What can he do? He is a little man who is very lucky, his EOKA record is still on file, to be the president of a little country, which has little or no effect on world events. He is just posturing for the forthcoming elections.

If he shouts loud enough the British government may just close the bases down. Now the British taxpayer would be most grateful for that. Bases not really needed now. The Americans have opened so many new ones in former Soviet territories such as Poland etc. And of course the American basis in Turkey. The losers of course would the the GC's who work at the bases; and those that derive a living from the tourist industry; three million British tourists???? but Papa Doc couldn't care less about them.

Grow up Mr President or resign and let somebody younger take over who could lead Cyprus into the 21st century.


You must be fooling yourself. If they were not needed they would have closed down already. Britain provides services to the Americans through the bases. The Americans were desparate to have their Echelon spying system in operation in CYPRUS and it's one of the 3 available WORLDWIDE.

You are not going to have a reduction in military spending or personnel if the Bases in Cyprus close down. The number of troops IS SET and IS FIXED. Having them all based in London is more a waste of money than having them spread in bases around the world.

Bilateral relations are always important even with small countries like Cyprus.
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:15 pm

So the bases will go, and three million British tourists will stop coming to Cyprus, and that is a tragedy? That would be a reason to rejoice, firstly because one hundred sqaure miles of coastal land is returned to its rightful owners, opening up all kinds of opportunities, secondly, the decrease in tourism in general will lead to a re orientation of the tourist industry towards other more lucrative sectors like sport and convention tourism.

So please lobby your MP to do something, fast!
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Postby Daemon » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:22 pm

And you still insist to participate in such a highly political forum????

Europe never said such a thing. They were just allegations of Politis newspaper, that some employee, of some commissioner, told them such orally, such nonsense i.e.

How pathetic and easy believer you are!


This is what was the respond of Europe and Ollie Rehn that your ex foreign minister was insulting. You are simply hopeless.

And why didn’t start the bully thing with the Germans and the vote of their parliament that is similar with what the British are ready to do?

And why don’t you go against to ECHR also that is ready to indirectly recognize TRNC?

The list is too big and counting and the last thing you need is to continue the same bully policy that leads you with mathematical accuracy to the absolute humiliation.

And no not even for a joke you can say what you will go against Europe, it’s so simple even for you.

Maybe you should speak and provoke less and try to find a way to end your self destruction and self humiliation that is coming from your pathetic ego trip that is actually destroying your brains.
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Postby Daemon » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:31 pm

So the bases will go, and three million British tourists will stop coming to Cyprus, and that is a tragedy? That would be a reason to rejoice, firstly because one hundred sqaure miles of coastal land is returned to its rightful owners, opening up all kinds of opportunities, secondly, the decrease in tourism in general will lead to a re orientation of the tourist industry towards other more lucrative sectors like sport and convention tourism.


Yes right and you actually believe all this bullshits?

For a start I’m ready to make a bet with everyone wants what the bases will not go and what there is no even a legal ground to open such issue, anyone interested?

As about tourism and real estate and generally the Cyprus economy that is completely depended by the British, there isn’t nothing to do either, because your people (especially the rich people that are in a full cooperation with Papad) are really enjoying the British money and believe me Papad is the last who will do such a thing and actually there isn’t anyone that will do a shit and I bet you also on that if you are interested.

I’m betting my balls, does anyone interested to make the same bet?
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Postby miltiades » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:13 am

Daemon wrote:
So the bases will go, and three million British tourists will stop coming to Cyprus, and that is a tragedy? That would be a reason to rejoice, firstly because one hundred sqaure miles of coastal land is returned to its rightful owners, opening up all kinds of opportunities, secondly, the decrease in tourism in general will lead to a re orientation of the tourist industry towards other more lucrative sectors like sport and convention tourism.


Yes right and you actually believe all this bullshits?

For a start I’m ready to make a bet with everyone wants what the bases will not go and what there is no even a legal ground to open such issue, anyone interested?

As about tourism and real estate and generally the Cyprus economy that is completely depended by the British, there isn’t nothing to do either, because your people (especially the rich people that are in a full cooperation with Papad) are really enjoying the British money and believe me Papad is the last who will do such a thing and actually there isn’t anyone that will do a shit and I bet you also on that if you are interested.

I’m betting my balls, does anyone interested to make the same bet?

Yes I do . But you ain't got any balls mate , you wanked them off remember malaka !!
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:28 am

This story about us Cypriots being dependent on the British and owe everything to tthe British. Thankfuylly there are people born during the British rule and they are right here in this forum.

I recall villages without roads. without electric power, with one or two public water taps, and one telephone per village if we were lucky. As for the roads it is enough to recall one phrase that says it all:

"pese pangetto pezevengi!" said to other drivers.

Cyprus did not see real wealth and a rise in it standard of living till the 60s. So cut out this British money crap. It is not really about Cyprus, it is an excuse for Greece being kept in the pits by the politicians you guys elect, they have a thing or two to teach others about being ineffectual and incompetent.

And no, Daemon, I dont want to bet against your balls.
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