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[Simon]

I had it first!!!!! (wondering to himself if that is true......)

[Viewpoint]

You GCs are really funny, your economy depends on British tourists, what was it 1.5 million last year?? you dont really have much chance of taking measure to scare the UK. The tide has turned ans will continue to turn theres nothign you can do about it a slong as you keep up your current policies.

[Kifeas]

What do you think Papadopoulos is referring to? The Bases? Sounds like a threat to me. If it is regarding the Bases, what exactly can Cyprus do?

There are plenty of options and things to do, that will hurt the British interests badly!

First of all, they are stupid, for with their actions they are in fact damaging the TC interests! Without RoC consent, no Bologna participation of universities in the north may materialise, nor direct trade or EU parliament participation may occur; and the fact that the British tried to poke their nose into these issues will only backfire and destroy the whatever existing GC intentions to seek ways to end the TC community's isolation!

First of all thank you for acknowledging we are isolated and secondly what GC intentions are you talking about they are zero zilch???

You are isolated because Turkey illegally occupies and prohibits (with the use of force) to the RoC to exercise its sovereign authority in the northern part of its territory! Whether you like it or not, this is the legal parameter that defines the situation!

[Simon]

[quote]This is nonsense! The first question to be answered, in legal terms, is why are the TC isolated, how, and who is responsible for it! Secondly, the EU (not the UK) is not supposed to end the whatever isolation of the TCs through the use of means and actions violating the EU aqui and international law! It has no such a right or competency! If they want to end the isolation of the TCs, why don't they ask or force Turkey to end the illegal occupation of a territory of the RoC?[/quote]


Kifeas, I do not really see your point. It has been, and as far as I am aware, is the intention of the EU to end (or at least ease) the TC isolation. Do you deny this? I do not deny that the TCs are at least partly responsible for the isolation, but that was not my point. My point was, if we seek to block any goodwill measures that the EU set up (as you suggested) the EU is bound to turn on the Cypriot government in some way. I was merely suggesting that it could harm our cause.

[Kifeas]

This is nonsense! The first question to be answered, in legal terms, is why are the TC isolated, how, and who is responsible for it! Secondly, the EU (not the UK) is not supposed to end the whatever isolation of the TCs through the use of means and actions violating the EU aqui and international law! It has no such a right or competency! If they want to end the isolation of the TCs, why don't they ask or force Turkey to end the illegal occupation of a territory of the RoC?

Kifeas, I do not really see your point. It has been, and as far as I am aware, is the intention of the EU to end the TC isolation. Do you deny this? I do not deny that the TCs are at least partly responsible for the isolation, but that was not my point. My point was, if we seek to block any goodwill measures that the EU set up (as you suggested) the EU is bound to turn on the Cypriot government in some way. It could harm our cause.

Simon, are you telling us now that it is the EU's intention to end the isolation of the TCs with the use of illegal means and ways? Means and ways that would violate international law and the sovereignty of another EU member state? Is this what you are bloody trying to imply? Such nonsense I could only possibly hear it from Anastasiades mouth! Are you by chance his follower?

Are you wasting my time?

[Viewpoint]

What do you think Papadopoulos is referring to? The Bases? Sounds like a threat to me. If it is regarding the Bases, what exactly can Cyprus do?

There are plenty of options and things to do, that will hurt the British interests badly!

First of all, they are stupid, for with their actions they are in fact damaging the TC interests! Without RoC consent, no Bologna participation of universities in the north may materialise, nor direct trade or EU parliament participation may occur; and the fact that the British tried to poke their nose into these issues will only backfire and destroy the whatever existing GC intentions to seek ways to end the TC community's isolation!

First of all thank you for acknowledging we are isolated and secondly what GC intentions are you talking about they are zero zilch???

You are isolated because Turkey illegally occupies and prohibits (with the use of force) to the RoC to exercise its sovereign authority in the northern part of its territory! Whether you like it or not, this is the legal parameter that defines the situation!

That grip you feel will keep us wanting a solution will over the next years losen these are small cracks that will intensify. Im sure you have ralized that these inconveniecies are a price TCs are willing to pay for the sake of living and flying the flag in the TRNC. Your constant intervention to stop anything that will warrant a relaxation pf isolation will over time backfire in your faces as nations will get pissed off with your intollerance and see your true intentions, keep displaying your true faces you are doing us a great service.

[Kifeas]

What do you think Papadopoulos is referring to? The Bases? Sounds like a threat to me. If it is regarding the Bases, what exactly can Cyprus do?

There are plenty of options and things to do, that will hurt the British interests badly!

First of all, they are stupid, for with their actions they are in fact damaging the TC interests! Without RoC consent, no Bologna participation of universities in the north may materialise, nor direct trade or EU parliament participation may occur; and the fact that the British tried to poke their nose into these issues will only backfire and destroy the whatever existing GC intentions to seek ways to end the TC community's isolation!

First of all thank you for acknowledging we are isolated and secondly what GC intentions are you talking about they are zero zilch???

You are isolated because Turkey illegally occupies and prohibits (with the use of force) to the RoC to exercise its sovereign authority in the northern part of its territory! Whether you like it or not, this is the legal parameter that defines the situation!

That grip you feel will keep us wanting a solution will over the next years losen these are small cracks that will intensify. Im sure you have ralized that these inconveniecies are a price TCs are willing to pay for the sake of living and flying the flag in the TRNC. Your constant intervention to stop anything that will warrant a relaxation pf isolation will over time backfire in your faces as nations will get pissed off with your intollerance and see your true intentions, keep displaying your true faces you are doing us a great service.

Like they got pissed off with you and Turkey for the 33 years of violating 200,000 GCs' human and cultural rights, after you have ethnically cleansed us from the north and usurped all our properties, homes, churches and ancenstor's graves, like common thieves and gangsters!

[miltiades]

You GCs are really funny, your economy depends on British tourists, what was it 1.5 million last year?? you dont really have much chance of taking measure to scare the UK. The tide has turned ans will continue to turn theres nothign you can do about it a slong as you keep up your current policies.

VP , this is to do with the British government and NOT the British people. Your average British tourist is highly critical of successive policies by British governments , be it on immigration , heavy taxation , unpopular foreign policies and internal corrupt activities by many politicians. The UK IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE AND IT IS THE POLITICIANS THAT ARE WHOLY RESPONSIBLE.
The British government can ill afford to be seen as a "bully " regarding the issues affecting its relations with the Cyprus government. Do remember that Cyprus is of a great strategic importance to the British and being forced to defend its position would not be conducive to its long term interests.

[Viewpoint]

What do you think Papadopoulos is referring to? The Bases? Sounds like a threat to me. If it is regarding the Bases, what exactly can Cyprus do?

There are plenty of options and things to do, that will hurt the British interests badly!

First of all, they are stupid, for with their actions they are in fact damaging the TC interests! Without RoC consent, no Bologna participation of universities in the north may materialise, nor direct trade or EU parliament participation may occur; and the fact that the British tried to poke their nose into these issues will only backfire and destroy the whatever existing GC intentions to seek ways to end the TC community's isolation!

First of all thank you for acknowledging we are isolated and secondly what GC intentions are you talking about they are zero zilch???

You are isolated because Turkey illegally occupies and prohibits (with the use of force) to the RoC to exercise its sovereign authority in the northern part of its territory! Whether you like it or not, this is the legal parameter that defines the situation!

That grip you feel will keep us wanting a solution will over the next years losen these are small cracks that will intensify. Im sure you have ralized that these inconveniecies are a price TCs are willing to pay for the sake of living and flying the flag in the TRNC. Your constant intervention to stop anything that will warrant a relaxation pf isolation will over time backfire in your faces as nations will get pissed off with your intollerance and see your true intentions, keep displaying your true faces you are doing us a great service.

Like they got pissed off with you and Turkey for the 33 years of violating 200,000 GCs' human and cultural rights, after you have ethnically cleansed us from the north and usurped all our properties, homes, churches and ancenstor's graves, like common thieves and gangsters!

Big difference Kifeas, you now have the EU to answer to and your every move is monitored by them, you have to tow the line and cannot act like you did in the past, keep up the good work your current policies will hand us what we want on plate.

[Pyrpolizer]

The TCs are "isolated" ONLY politically and this is a direct consequence of the illegality of TRashNcan .
They are not "isolated" as individuals. I asked repeatedly in this forum the Tcs to tell me what are the REAL negative effects of that isolation. The only one who managed to spell something was Murataga who initially said they are deprived basic medicine like aspirin, and when I proved that a lie, he said some other nonsense about getting their medicines after Turkey subsidizes them. In reality there is absolutely no negative effect to the TC individual regarding so called "isolation".

To the main topic now: UK has taken us for granted. Their bases in Cyprus will be useless without our full cooperation. And it is exactly this copperation they will lose. Within the next few weeks all British soldiers and their families will undergo strict control and required to get a licence to get out of their bases. As for heir echelon system, well it only consists of some wire mesh antenas