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[EPSILON]

To say the true? The true my friend is simple. Gcs are requested to sign a solution agreement
(always after 1974) as the loosers of a war.This of course is a fact. But , at least they are trying to
save what they can save after a lost war.

Yes there was the reality of the lost war in the plan where it was the bizonal de facto situation, but federation
was not a result of the invasion. And by your logic the best way to save what they can is to continue
the nationalistic crap that had destroyed them? And now if the Cypriots eventually and totally prove what
they are racists and what the can’t live with the TC’s they will prove their responsibility for everything happened.

And what they would earn from proving to the world that? Simply nothing and as soon as they will
Realize it the better for them, because they are about to loose everything where they could have everything in the Anan plan if they had the balls and if they had a reliable government.

Who knows? Maybe in few years EU decide to apply its rules and regulations in Cyprus also. Unil then , at least Gcs remain Greeks and they, somehow, contrl their affairs by themselves. You know i not so easy to ask a population to forget who thy are, from where they are coming, and to be a different population. Because , you will agree , that many things will change to the worst if any of the purposed solutions be applied- then we will get what? A bravo from EU and Int community that we are the good guys? We will have to stay in the ISLAND NOT THE INT COMMUNITY.

This story of Cyprus problem is going back to 1571. Our agreement will end this story and the solution will be against us. And stop advertising and promoting that Tcs and Tcs are same and belong to he same Nation. All know that we are speaking about two different (at least today) societies with huge differences in the daly life attendance.

Belgium after so many years facing problem to elect a government because its two societies facing their differences, Scotland the same with England. Can you imagine Turks and Greeks to stay under one state ,particularly with affair rules against the majority?

To not be a fasist and fanatic can not be traslated to not see the problems and say all nations are brothers and sisters. This should be the case but it is not- unfortunately.

[Daemon]

ws? Maybe in few years EU decide to apply its rules and regulations in Cyprus also.

Unil then , at least Gcs remain Greeks and they, somehow, contrl their affairs by themselves.

Everyone knows what after they was fraud and blackmailed by the GC’s are completely against them.

And unfortunately Europe can’t do much by them self’s, especially if the Cypriots are so retarded that they don’t want them to do.

At the Anan plan there was a world wide activation where the whole Europe was a part of and the
Cypriots choose to fraud the people that was trying to help them at a time that is doubtable
what a similar situation will ever be a possibility to have again and after they (the Cypriots) gave the green light for Turkey accession.

w i not so easy to ask a population to forget who thy are, from where they are coming, and to
be a different population.

They are Cypriots and they did forget that, when they shouldn’t.

Because , you will agree , that many things will change to the worst if any of the purposed solutions
be applied- then we will get what?

No I can’t agree, the Anan plan could change things to better and not to worst.

A bravo from EU and Int community that we are the good guys?

What? After all Papadopoulos did to Europe which actually can say what they are the good guys?

We will have to stay in the ISLAND NOT THE INT COMMUNITY.

???

This story of Cyprus problem is going back to 1571.
Our agreement will end this story and the solution will be against us.
And stop advertising and promoting that Tcs and Tcs are same and belong to he same Nation.

The TC’s have more relation with the GC’s than the Greeks and the Turks and this is proven by DNA analysis.

All know that we are speaking about two different (at least today) societies with huge differences
in the daly life attendance.

I’ll not speak for the brothers TC’s and GC’s in Cyprus but I’ll redirect that to you. What differences do you
think what you have with a Turk?

You are both retarded human trash with the same trash culture, you think what you are
much better hilarious neo"Greek" boy?

Belgium after so many years facing problem to elect a government because its two societies facing their
differences, Scotland the same with England. Can you imagine Turks and Greeks to stay under
one state ,particularly with affair rules against the majority?

Yes I do, it’s the same trash culture and they are coming from the same cultural shit hole. By that of course your
are claiming what the better solution for the Cyprus donkeys is the division of the superior Cyprus Greeks from the TC”s.

Right?

Why all of this hilarious nationalist people don’t go to suicide to save humanity from their disgusting existence?

Do you ever wonder what the use of your ridiculous existence?

Do you think what the Judeo-Christians neoGreek trashes are better than the Turks? Are you
actually believe what you are superior?

[EPSILON]

ws? Maybe in few years EU decide to apply its rules and regulations in Cyprus also.

Unil then , at least Gcs remain Greeks and they, somehow, contrl their affairs by themselves.

Everyone knows what after they was fraud and blackmailed by the GC’s are completely against them.

And unfortunately Europe can’t do much by them self’s, especially if the Cypriots are so retarded that they don’t want them to do.

At the Anan plan there was a world wide activation where the whole Europe was a part of and the
Cypriots choose to fraud the people that was trying to help them at a time that is doubtable
what a similar situation will ever be a possibility to have again and after they (the Cypriots) gave the green light for Turkey accession.

w i not so easy to ask a population to forget who thy are, from where they are coming, and to
be a different population.

They are Cypriots and they did forget that, when they shouldn’t.

Because , you will agree , that many things will change to the worst if any of the purposed solutions
be applied- then we will get what?

No I can’t agree, the Anan plan could change things to better and not to worst.

A bravo from EU and Int community that we are the good guys?

What? After all Papadopoulos did to Europe which actually can say what they are the good guys?

We will have to stay in the ISLAND NOT THE INT COMMUNITY.

???

This story of Cyprus problem is going back to 1571.
Our agreement will end this story and the solution will be against us.
And stop advertising and promoting that Tcs and Tcs are same and belong to he same Nation.

What the fuck are you talking about retarded nationalist prick?

The TC’s have more relation with the GC’s than the Greeks and the Turks and this is proven by DNA analysis.

All know that we are speaking about two different (at least today) societies with huge differences
in the daly life attendance.

I’ll not speak for the brothers TC’s and GC’s in Cyprus but I’ll redirect that to you. What differences do you
think what you have with a Turk?

You are both retarded human trash with the same trash culture, you think what you are
much better hilarious neo"Greek" boy?

Belgium after so many years facing problem to elect a government because its two societies facing their
differences, Scotland the same with England. Can you imagine Turks and Greeks to stay under
one state ,particularly with affair rules against the majority?

Yes I do, it’s the same trash culture and they are coming from the same cultural shit hole. By that of course your
are claiming what the better solution for the Cyprus donkeys is the division of the superior Cyprus Greeks from the TC”s.

Right?

Why all of this hilarious nationalist people don’t go to suicide to save humanity from their disgusting existence?

Do you ever wonder what the use of your ridiculous existence?

Do you think what the Judeo-Christians neoGreek trashes are better than the Turks? Are you
actually believe what you are superior?

This text is full of complexisity. Where did i said that Gcs or Greeks are superior than Turks or Tcs? Nowhere of course/ i said that they are different-different not on how much they count as human but in culture,language,history,religion and many other . Different can not be superior is just different.

What it makes me smile is that the most of you who presenting yourselves as anti-rasists etc etc -you are usualy the most fanatic people in Earth. When you see a different opinion you start declare the other side as such.

[Pyrpolizer]

I’m afraid what you are the clueless, what newspaper are you reading?

The brain-deads from Simerini?

The ECHR indirectly recognizes the property commission as legal. And where? In an illegal state and for how long? As about the other is easiest to found the Europe respond and do it before you will continue this pathetic game that leads you no where.

And of course the list is bigger and we will need a week to present all the crap that your hilarious government did.

Yes you are clueless.

You are better with cucumbers. Have one.








































On second thought have 2.

[Daemon]

No they are not different they even had a common language before the Greek and the Turk trash get involved.

Ask Militades for how different the two communities are, you are different with the Turks because you are
both come from pervert cultures, the Cypriots were just fine before the nationalist shit get involved.

They have much more commons between them than the Turk and Greek trash.

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Pyrpolizer you can suicide, is a good option when it's obviously what you are hopeless.

[Pyrpolizer]

Tks for your kind words. I wish same to you.

meantime pls note that my copy of Annan plan is coming from Turkish Foreign ministry in order you do not claim its text.

By the way who said Tcs are the invasion forces? They are just their cooperators and their right hand.

By the way I am proud to be Greek like maby you are proud to be Turk.Nothing more.

About the provision of demilitarization: As things are today maby invasion forces need 48hrs to occupy the south because of a small defend from Gcs. By this Annan plan provision they will need only 8hrs - until they come from South Turkey.Of course having officially the right to do so.

Re malaka you don’t had enough when you and your brainless fanatic nationalist kind destroy Cyprus once?

What a hilarious clown you are and let’s suppose what there was such a possibility of a war, now Cypriots have 10-15 000? Soldiers and the Turks have 40-50? And in the Anan plan they ware going to be exactly the same number with the Greeks?

You are clueless again. Read the Anan plan and tell me

a)when exactly during the de-militarisation process the 2 forces would become about equal?

b)what will be the balance of power in the first 2 critical years?

c)when the two forces will be 950/650 ?

I am sure you can answer only c

[Daemon]

Article 8 Demilitarisation

1. Bearing in mind that:
a. The Treaty of Guarantee, in applying mutatis mutandis to the new
state of affairs established in this Agreement and the Constitution,
shall cover, in addition to the independence, territorial integrity,
security and constitutional order of the United Cyprus Republic, the
territorial integrity, security and constitutional order of the constituent
states;

Greek and Turkish contingents shall be permitted to be stationed
under the Treaty of Alliance in the Greek Cypriot State and the
Turkish Cypriot State respectively as follows:
i) each contingent not to exceed 6,000 all ranks, until
2011;
ii) each contingent not to exceed 3,000 all ranks
thereafter until 2018 or the European Union accession
of Turkey, whichever is sooner; and
iii) the Greek contingent not to exceed 950 all ranks and
the Turkish contingent not to exceed 650 all ranks
thereafter, subject to three-yearly review with the
objective of total withdrawal;

c. Greek and Turkish forces and armaments shall be redeployed to
agreed locations and adjusted to agreed levels, and any forces and
armaments in excess of agreed levels shall be withdrawn;

d. There shall be a United Nations peacekeeping operation to monitor
the implementation of this Agreement and use its best efforts to
promote compliance with it and contribute to the maintenance of a
secure environment, to remain as long as the federal government,
with the concurrence of both constituent states, does not decide
otherwise;

The supply of arms to Cyprus shall be prohibited in a manner that is
legally binding on both importers and exporters; and
f. A Monitoring Committee composed of representatives of the
guarantor powers, the federal government, and the constituent
states, and chaired by the United Nations, shall monitor the
implementation of this Agreement,

Cyprus shall be demilitarised, and all Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot
forces, including reserve units, shall be dissolved, and their arms
removed from the island, in phases synchronized with the redeployment
and adjustment of Greek and Turkish forces.

2. There shall be no paramilitary or reserve forces or military or paramilitary
training of citizens. All weapons except licensed sporting guns shall be
prohibited.

3. The constituent states shall prohibit violence and the incitement to
violence against the United Cyprus Republic, the federal government,
the constituent states, or the guarantor powers.

4. Cyprus shall not put its territory at the disposal of international military
operations other than with the consent of both constituent states; until
the accession of Turkey to the European Union, the consent of Greece
and Turkey shall also be required.

5. The federal government and the constituent states shall cooperate with
the United Nations operation. The United Cyprus Republic shall bear
half the cost to the United Nations of the operation in the first three years
and two-thirds thereafter. This arrangement shall be reviewed in 2010.

6. These provisions do not prejudice the provisions of the Treaty of
Establishment, the Treaty of Guarantee, the Treaty of Alliance, the
mandate of a United Nations peacekeeping operation and the provisions
of the Constitution on federal and constituent state police and the Joint
Investigation Agency.

Greece and Turkey were about to have equal powers with light arms controlled by UN from the first day.

It’s exactly the same as you are now pervert?

[Pyrpolizer]

Article 8 Demilitarisation

1. Bearing in mind that:
a. The Treaty of Guarantee, in applying mutatis mutandis to the new
state of affairs established in this Agreement and the Constitution,
shall cover, in addition to the independence, territorial integrity,
security and constitutional order of the United Cyprus Republic, the
territorial integrity, security and constitutional order of the constituent
states;

Greek and Turkish contingents shall be permitted to be stationed
under the Treaty of Alliance in the Greek Cypriot State and the
Turkish Cypriot State respectively as follows:
i) each contingent not to exceed 6,000 all ranks, until
2011;
ii) each contingent not to exceed 3,000 all ranks
thereafter until 2018 or the European Union accession
of Turkey, whichever is sooner; and
iii) the Greek contingent not to exceed 950 all ranks and
the Turkish contingent not to exceed 650 all ranks
thereafter, subject to three-yearly review with the
objective of total withdrawal;

c. Greek and Turkish forces and armaments shall be redeployed to
agreed locations and adjusted to agreed levels, and any forces and
armaments in excess of agreed levels shall be withdrawn;

d. There shall be a United Nations peacekeeping operation to monitor
the implementation of this Agreement and use its best efforts to
promote compliance with it and contribute to the maintenance of a
secure environment, to remain as long as the federal government,
with the concurrence of both constituent states, does not decide
otherwise;

The supply of arms to Cyprus shall be prohibited in a manner that is
legally binding on both importers and exporters; and
f. A Monitoring Committee composed of representatives of the
guarantor powers, the federal government, and the constituent
states, and chaired by the United Nations, shall monitor the
implementation of this Agreement,

Cyprus shall be demilitarised, and all Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot
forces, including reserve units, shall be dissolved, and their arms
removed from the island, in phases synchronized with the redeployment
and adjustment of Greek and Turkish forces.

2. There shall be no paramilitary or reserve forces or military or paramilitary
training of citizens. All weapons except licensed sporting guns shall be
prohibited.

3. The constituent states shall prohibit violence and the incitement to
violence against the United Cyprus Republic, the federal government,
the constituent states, or the guarantor powers.

4. Cyprus shall not put its territory at the disposal of international military
operations other than with the consent of both constituent states; until
the accession of Turkey to the European Union, the consent of Greece
and Turkey shall also be required.

5. The federal government and the constituent states shall cooperate with
the United Nations operation. The United Cyprus Republic shall bear
half the cost to the United Nations of the operation in the first three years
and two-thirds thereafter. This arrangement shall be reviewed in 2010.

6. These provisions do not prejudice the provisions of the Treaty of
Establishment, the Treaty of Guarantee, the Treaty of Alliance, the
mandate of a United Nations peacekeeping operation and the provisions
of the Constitution on federal and constituent state police and the Joint
Investigation Agency.

Greece and Turkey were about to have equal powers with light arms controlled by UN from the first day.

It’s exactly the same as you are now pervert?

You are so clueless. You cannot even read your own quotes. Dig a little further and you might work out question b.

In the meantime have another cucumber.

[Daemon]

Pyrpolizer you can’t even read what the above part of the plan says?

What can I say? your situation(generaly speaking) is disgusting.

[Nikitas]

"Greek and Turkish forces and armaments shall be redeployed to
agreed locations and adjusted to agreed levels, and any forces and
armaments in excess of agreed levels shall be withdrawn; "

The schedules attached to the agreement, and at the insistence of the Turkish army gave the Turks a 2 to 1 advantage in firepower over the Greek forces on the island. You should read more carefully Daemon. And listen to your own radio and TV analysts. Greece did not allow a single army spokesman to comment on the attached schedules.