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Turkey Before the Gates Of Hell in Kurdistan

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby mehmet » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:24 am

mehmet wrote:
This article is speculative opinion. Anyone latching onto it as some great truth is desperte.

This is my view. There will be no military invasion in the sense of an army marching in. What there will be is what there already is; air strikes. At the moment carried out by Turkish forces, if they can get the Americans to assist them it will be all the better for them to achieve their aims. The tough talk by AKP threatening war is just for public consumption, the real war will be in the diplomatic field. People in Turkey are very aware that the PKK are trying to draw Turkey into a confrontation so that its objective regarding EU are damaged. The balancing act for the AKP is to be seen to be tough on PKK without endangering their goal of drawing Turkey closer to Europe without provoking the military to intervene. So far the AKP have been smart where taking on the military establishment is concerned, they now have an AKP member as President, a majority in the parliament on an increased share of the vote, and a recent referundum victory to allow the President to be directly elected by the people rather than by Parliament in future. The AKP are not about to embark on some adventure in northern Iraq. Several commentators have pointed out that there have been 24 previous incursions without ultimate success of defeating the PKK. They only have to look further south in Iraq to see how occupying a country does not necessarily lead to the political defeat of your opponents.


Do they apply this "rule-of-thumb" to their continued occupation of Cyprus?


Of course they understand that point. Why else did they support negotiations under UN control after years of saying they solved the Cyprus problem?
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Postby phoenix » Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:21 am

Seems like Turkey keeps taking pot shots at the Kurds but still pretending they are not starting a war . . .

http://www.guardian.co.uk/turkey/story/ ... 41,00.html
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Postby mehmet » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:45 am

Yes that's right, there are actions that aren't being publicised as an invasion. This way the public can see that the army are not inactive against PKK. Starting a war is something you do against a nation - i don't fall for this 'war on terrrorism' line, so you are, in my opinion, wrong to describe waht's taking place as war.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:37 am

T_C wrote:Britain just recently signed an agreement with Turkey in order to kiss her ass over Iraq.

And the deal was blatantly to aid the TRNC. Its timing, contents and the RoCs reaction is testament to this.

I think you should be more worried about that then some journos opinion mate. :?



Onlerindeki Pilava baksalar daha iyi olur, degilmi?

Trans: "They would do better to concentrate on the Pilav in front of them".
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:39 am

phoenix wrote:Seems like Turkey keeps taking pot shots at the Kurds but still pretending they are not starting a war . . .

http://www.guardian.co.uk/turkey/story/ ... 41,00.html



Phoenix, the Kurds have already started a war. What on earth are you talking about?

Do you eat Pilav?
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:42 am

Get Real! wrote:
boomerang wrote:I remember Donald Rumsfeld upon meeting Saddam he said...Today I made a new friend... :lol:

I wonder what Saddam was thinking after that meeting...

"Today I made a fatal enemy..."



What he was really thinking was "beware --------bearing gifts. That what you really meant isnt it? :lol: :lol:
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