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[yiannisP]

How could be a failure where there was not even trying? It’s foolish to believe what U.S had any interesting to support a stated enemy of them and NATO in the middle of the cold war.

It was more than a failure though. The CIA funding the Greek Junta makes America complicit.

[Mills Chapman]

Do you think this might have been a quid pro quo arrangement for help that the RoC gave Americans last year? Below is a press release from the same US senators thanking the RoC for help in getting Americans out of Lebanon last year. I wonder if the deal was, "If you help us get our people out, we'll not only publicly thank you, but in a little over a year, we'll issue a public statement saying that Turkey needs to remove its troops from Cyprus."

http://menendez.senate.gov/newsroom/rec ... ?id=261509
Press Release of Senator Menendez
SENATORS EXPRESS GRATITUDE TO THE REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS

Senator Menendez leads bipartisan Senate effort in thanking President Papadopoulos for Cyprus’ help with U.S. Citizens leaving Lebanon
Monday, August 7, 2006
WASHINGTON – A bipartisan group of Senators, led by United States Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ), together with Senators Paul S. Sarbanes (D-MD) and Olympia Snowe (R-ME), sent a letter to Republic of Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos to express their deepest thanks for that country’s assistance in helping Americans who have left Lebanon over the past several weeks.

“The safe departure of U.S. citizens from Lebanon has been a critical undertaking, one that the Cypriot government has played a central role in carrying out, both unflinchingly and without question,” the lawmakers wrote. “By embracing Americans in need, your country has given meaning to the saying by the great Greek philosopher Epicurus that, ‘It is not so much our friends' help that helps us as the confident knowledge that they will help us.’”

Since the start of evacuation efforts, approximately 15,000 U.S. citizens had been transported out of Lebanon by the United States, nearly all of them through Cyprus. The Cypriot government opened the country’s ports, provided food and water to evacuees, and arranged shelter for those fleeing Lebanon.

[Nikitas]

In addition to the 15000 American there were thousands of others helped by the Cyprus authorities. What quid pro quo was there for all those others? No this does not click somehow, it is more likely that it is a barb against Turkey, like we say in Greek "shout at the wife so the mother in law will hear".

[Mills Chapman]

In addition to the 15000 American there were thousands of others helped by the Cyprus authorities. What quid pro quo was there for all those others? No this does not click somehow, it is more likely that it is a barb against Turkey, like we say in Greek "shout at the wife so the mother in law will hear".

Good point, Nikitas. I should be more trusting of people's selflessness!

[oranos64]

America for a long time from now wants Turkey out of Cyprus but while you have this brainless for president they can’t help you even if they want it and of course there is not such a case before a complete solution of the problem, for now they just playing their cards in the Iraq issue but they can’t (and I doubt if they want and if they trust GC’s what they will not cause any problems that may lead to war) do anything to force Turkey to that direction with out a solution of the problem and everyone knows it.

RE WRITE THIS STATEMENT ,USE A COMMA ,FULL STOP AND RE READ IT ...IT ,LIKE YOU SIGNATURE ..IS A JUMBLE SENTENCE ...Where somewhere it makes sense .....

[Filitsa]

Do you think this might have been a quid pro quo arrangement for help that the RoC gave Americans last year? Below is a press release from the same US senators thanking the RoC for help in getting Americans out of Lebanon last year. I wonder if the deal was, "If you help us get our people out, we'll not only publicly thank you, but in a little over a year, we'll issue a public statement saying that Turkey needs to remove its troops from Cyprus."

http://menendez.senate.gov/newsroom/rec ... ?id=261509
Press Release of Senator Menendez
SENATORS EXPRESS GRATITUDE TO THE REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS

Senator Menendez leads bipartisan Senate effort in thanking President Papadopoulos for Cyprus’ help with U.S. Citizens leaving Lebanon
Monday, August 7, 2006
WASHINGTON – A bipartisan group of Senators, led by United States Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ), together with Senators Paul S. Sarbanes (D-MD) and Olympia Snowe (R-ME), sent a letter to Republic of Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos to express their deepest thanks for that country’s assistance in helping Americans who have left Lebanon over the past several weeks.

“The safe departure of U.S. citizens from Lebanon has been a critical undertaking, one that the Cypriot government has played a central role in carrying out, both unflinchingly and without question,” the lawmakers wrote. “By embracing Americans in need, your country has given meaning to the saying by the great Greek philosopher Epicurus that, ‘It is not so much our friends' help that helps us as the confident knowledge that they will help us.’”

Since the start of evacuation efforts, approximately 15,000 U.S. citizens had been transported out of Lebanon by the United States, nearly all of them through Cyprus. The Cypriot government opened the country’s ports, provided food and water to evacuees, and arranged shelter for those fleeing Lebanon.

The answer is very simple: constituency based politics. Menendez is a senator from New Jersey. New Jersey has one of the largest concentrations of Greek Cypriots in the U.S. As for Sarbanes and Snowe, well ... they're Greek Americans.

[Daemon]

RE WRITE THIS STATEMENT ,USE A COMMA ,FULL STOP AND RE READ IT ...IT ,LIKE YOU
SIGNATURE ..IS A JUMBLE SENTENCE ...Where somewhere it makes sense .....

Jumble sentence? What you didn’t understand?

[Sotos]

Daemon, you didn't answer to the questions I gave you earlier. So answer this one first: Who would compensate the GC refugees that would not get their properties back? Turkey or TCs? And show to me the part in the Annan plan that talks about it to prove what you say.

[Daemon]

I did answer to everything and I will answer again.

The compensations was about to come from the people that have illegal property
in the north that they had to pay for and from the Cyprus main government that could
have millions (billions to be accurate) of donations from Europe and not only
(and this is well known) and from the main government where of course the
biggest part from this was from the GC’s that were not isolated for 40+ years but
in the end the GC’s were not going to compensate more than the 30% and where the cost
were divided between the two cooperated and united communities that had the same
economic interests against Turkey and Greece and against anyone.

[Sotos]

The donations didn't cover even a tiny part. And you really expect that TCs would have the money to pay for all that property? What if they didn't pay? Put them in jail? I tell you what would happen. All of us that worked all these years to rebuild what we lost we would have to take from one pocket and give it to ourselves on the other pocket. Turkey would not even pay a cent!!