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[GreekForumer]

The failure of the U.S. to stop the invasion reeks of complicity, so of course, they had something to do with the coup.

Indeed!
The "Official" US-Cyprus foreign relations history of the 1974 period, as written by the State Department, has been completed for some time now. Unfortunately, for Cyprus-forumers and others, these volumes are still classified.

Watch this space -----> Office of the Historian

It's been over 30 years and they still won't release these volumes!

[miltiades]

Press Release of Senator Menendez

"END THE CYPRUS OCCUPATION" RESOLUTION INTRODUCED BY SEN. MENENDEZ

Legislation calls on Turkey to withdraw its 43,000 occupying troops from Republic of Cyprus

Thursday, October 4, 2007

WASHINGTON – Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ) has introduced a resolution, co-sponsored by Senator Olympia Snowe (R-ME), that calls on Turkey to withdraw its 43,000 troops from Cyprus and allow for the process of political reconciliation to move forward. The resolution would also call on the United States to influence Turkey to understand the benefits of ending the military occupation.

Turkey’s desired ascension into the European Union would be greatly enhanced by such a withdrawal. In addition, the withdrawal of Turkish troops would improve regional stability, improve relations with neighboring Greece, improve relations with the United States, and help Turkey repair its reputation of being opposed to religious tolerance.

Sen. Menendez released the following statement:

“Let me be clear, there is no justification for the 43,000 Turkish troops to be in Cyprus. Millions of people have been crossing the buffer zone without incident for years. There are no military attacks and there is no need for military protection of Turkish Cypriots. In the end, these troops only serve to create military tension.”

“For the U.S. to remain silent during this unjust occupation injures our moral standing internationally. And because silence is complicity, we must speak out.”

Interesting.

Do you have a link for this?

Whats the matter Erico , dont you like it , the fact that it says millions have crossed from one side to the other ( My self twice ) AND NO ONE GOT ATTACKED !!

Its becuase we are divided that there are no problems can you imagine being mixed up together where we could not run away to the safety of our own side and were exploited and discriminated against by a GC administration. Been there done that.

YOU have been nowhere mate , YOU WERE NOT AROUND your talking second hand !!

[Daemon]

The failure of the U.S. to stop the invasion reeks of complicity, so of course, they had something to do with the coup.

How could be a failure where there was not even trying? It’s foolish to believe what U.S had any interesting to support a stated enemy of them and NATO in the middle of the cold war.

Yes there is a possibility what they had something to do with the coup but this conclusion can’t be exported from the fact that they didn’t do a shit to save your ass for a third time(in the past they save your ass twice).

[Nikitas]

Daemon you are not informed,

Cyprus in the Makarios days had given the American two intelligence facilitied one of them in Mia Milia.Both were closed by the Turks after the invasion.

Patroclos Stavrou, close Makarios aide, has detailed how Makarios had asked US underscretary directly if there was anything Cyprus was doing that the US did not like, or was not doin anythin the US wanted done and Ball said "no, nothing at all". So this 'we pissed off the USA" tack is not accurate. In the Yom Kippur in 1973 the US could have used the British bases to resupply Israel without any prior authorization from the RoC, but they did not. If there is a link then we do not know about it or it is something not directly linked to whatever the RoC was doing in the 70s.

The most likely explanation is that there was a deal for double occupation and double union. The unexpected resistance of Greek Cypriots and the failure to kill Makarios created a new situation. The Turks simply double crossed everyone and took more than they were meant to take and kept it. The British resented the USA making a deal about Cyprus without consulting them and let the situation go to hell.

[Daemon]

Cyprus in the Makarios days had given the American two intelligence facilitied one of them in Mia Milia.Both were closed by the Turks after the invasion.

And why everyone is accusing Makarios why he didn’t give a military base to Americans?

Can you provide more info on this?

Patroclos Stavrou, close Makarios aide, has detailed how Makarios had asked US underscretary directly if there was anything Cyprus was doing that the US did not like, or was not doin anythin the US wanted done and Ball said "no, nothing at all". So this 'we pissed off the USA" tack is not accurate. In the Yom Kippur in 1973 the US could have used the British bases to resupply Israel without any prior authorization from the RoC, but they did not. If there is a link then we do not know about it or it is something not directly linked to whatever the RoC was doing in the 70s.

Yes and what the above means?

You want the god to tell you what by running after the Russians the NATO (including Greece and Turkey) will piss off?

The most likely explanation is that there was a deal for double occupation and double union. The unexpected resistance of Greek Cypriots and the failure to kill Makarios created a new situation. The Turks simply double crossed everyone and took more than they were meant to take and kept it. The British resented the USA making a deal about Cyprus without consulting them and let the situation go to hell.

If they wanted to shoot Makarios they could easily do it but your political life was so anti-American that there were not hope for something better and they preferring Makarios that they knew and at some level could predict (like is easy for everyone to predict what Papadopoulos will do because of his similar ego trip). And of course after all the crap that Makarios did the Americans started to thinkik the possibility of enosis with Greece that it was more friendly with Americans and that had politicians and not priests or Cypriot newbie’s that was after their self destruction.

The thing what you are making heroes the people that have destroyed you and you are so stubborn and incapable to understand it.

[Nikitas]

Bubba you are one crazy motherfuckah, as they would tell you in the USA. The diagnosis is free by the way!

[Daemon]

Great answer!!!

[Viewpoint]

Press Release of Senator Menendez

"END THE CYPRUS OCCUPATION" RESOLUTION INTRODUCED BY SEN. MENENDEZ

Legislation calls on Turkey to withdraw its 43,000 occupying troops from Republic of Cyprus

Thursday, October 4, 2007

WASHINGTON – Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ) has introduced a resolution, co-sponsored by Senator Olympia Snowe (R-ME), that calls on Turkey to withdraw its 43,000 troops from Cyprus and allow for the process of political reconciliation to move forward. The resolution would also call on the United States to influence Turkey to understand the benefits of ending the military occupation.

Turkey’s desired ascension into the European Union would be greatly enhanced by such a withdrawal. In addition, the withdrawal of Turkish troops would improve regional stability, improve relations with neighboring Greece, improve relations with the United States, and help Turkey repair its reputation of being opposed to religious tolerance.

Sen. Menendez released the following statement:

“Let me be clear, there is no justification for the 43,000 Turkish troops to be in Cyprus. Millions of people have been crossing the buffer zone without incident for years. There are no military attacks and there is no need for military protection of Turkish Cypriots. In the end, these troops only serve to create military tension.”

“For the U.S. to remain silent during this unjust occupation injures our moral standing internationally. And because silence is complicity, we must speak out.”

Interesting.

Do you have a link for this?

Whats the matter Erico , dont you like it , the fact that it says millions have crossed from one side to the other ( My self twice ) AND NO ONE GOT ATTACKED !!

Its becuase we are divided that there are no problems can you imagine being mixed up together where we could not run away to the safety of our own side and were exploited and discriminated against by a GC administration. Been there done that.

YOU have been nowhere mate , YOU WERE NOT AROUND your talking second hand !!

Annual holidays were enough to get a taste of what TCs had to put up with, the GC discrimination and threat was all over the island, do you deny this?

[Pyrpolizer]

So why were you coming to Cyprus? How the GCs treated you at the Airport?

All we hear in this forum is your were supposely afraid to even come to contact with GCs, let alone travel in the same plane to and from the UK packed with GCS

[Filitsa]

Not my ass; I'm an American, born and raised. Anyway, when one doesn't try he fails. Right? The State Department had the intelligence, but it turned its head from the crime. In some areas of criminal law this is called complicity. Nevertheless, I understand your point, the U.S. behaved in its best interest though in a fashion unbecoming of a Superpower.

The failure of the U.S. to stop the invasion reeks of complicity, so of course, they had something to do with the coup.

How could be a failure where there was not even trying? It’s foolish to believe what U.S had any interesting to support a stated enemy of them and NATO in the middle of the cold war.

Yes there is a possibility what they had something to do with the coup but this conclusion can’t be exported from the fact that they didn’t do a shit to save your ass for a third time(in the past they save your ass twice).