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Postby Piratis » Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:02 pm

Of course no one got attacked because our troops makes sure that no one gets attacked - TC and GC. There have been no major clash, intercommunal violence or murders since 1974. Does that date ring a bell?


There have been, in 1996, when Cypriots dared to demonstrate against the foreign troops that occupy our land.
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Postby paaul12 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:45 pm

The State Department, incredible as it may seem, refuses to call Turkey’s invasion an invasion. The State Department calls it intervention. The U.S. Ambassador to Cyprus Michael Klosson refused to call it invasion when he met with an American Hellenic Institute delegation these past two years and Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Matthew Bryza refused to call it invasion at an AHEPA sponsored panel on September 9, 2005.

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Re: END THE CYPRUS OCCUPATION: Senator Robert Menedez

Postby Get Real! » Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:56 pm

Murataga wrote:Of course no one got attacked because our troops makes sure that no one gets attacked - TC and GC.

There are no troops in the vicinity you turnip!
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Re: END THE CYPRUS OCCUPATION: Senator Robert Menedez

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:59 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Murataga wrote:Of course no one got attacked because our troops makes sure that no one gets attacked - TC and GC.

There are no troops in the vicinity you turnip!


The fear is enough to keep them at bay..
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Re: END THE CYPRUS OCCUPATION: Senator Robert Menedez

Postby Eric dayi » Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:54 pm

miltiades wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:
kalahari wrote:
Press Release of Senator Menendez

"END THE CYPRUS OCCUPATION" RESOLUTION INTRODUCED BY SEN. MENENDEZ

Legislation calls on Turkey to withdraw its 43,000 occupying troops from Republic of Cyprus

Thursday, October 4, 2007

WASHINGTON – Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ) has introduced a resolution, co-sponsored by Senator Olympia Snowe (R-ME), that calls on Turkey to withdraw its 43,000 troops from Cyprus and allow for the process of political reconciliation to move forward. The resolution would also call on the United States to influence Turkey to understand the benefits of ending the military occupation.

Turkey’s desired ascension into the European Union would be greatly enhanced by such a withdrawal. In addition, the withdrawal of Turkish troops would improve regional stability, improve relations with neighboring Greece, improve relations with the United States, and help Turkey repair its reputation of being opposed to religious tolerance.

Sen. Menendez released the following statement:

“Let me be clear, there is no justification for the 43,000 Turkish troops to be in Cyprus. Millions of people have been crossing the buffer zone without incident for years. There are no military attacks and there is no need for military protection of Turkish Cypriots. In the end, these troops only serve to create military tension.”

“For the U.S. to remain silent during this unjust occupation injures our moral standing internationally. And because silence is complicity, we must speak out.”


Interesting.


Do you have a link for this?

Whats the matter Erico , dont you like it , the fact that it says millions have crossed from one side to the other ( My self twice ) AND NO ONE GOT ATTACKED !!


You wouldn't dare attack anyone as long as the Turkish Army is there watching over us so you can't start the genocide war you started on us TCs back in 1963. That's what pisses you off most, doesn't it, you old senile fool?

Turkey will never leave and let kill all TCs so you can have your ENOSIS, you can be as sure of that as you are a senile old twit.
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Postby Filitsa » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:21 pm

paaul12 wrote:The State Department, incredible as it may seem, refuses to call Turkey’s invasion an invasion. The State Department calls it intervention. The U.S. Ambassador to Cyprus Michael Klosson refused to call it invasion when he met with an American Hellenic Institute delegation these past two years and Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Matthew Bryza refused to call it invasion at an AHEPA sponsored panel on September 9, 2005.

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Paul, do you not understand that the State Department chooses to use the term "intervention" to cover up Kissinger's wrong-doings? Please note:


"Ambassador Thomas Boyatt, the Cyprus Desk Officer in 1974 who disagreed with Kissinger, was transferred to Chile in the fall of 1974. He had a distinguished career and was honored for his work by his peers. He has stated that the U.S. has a moral responsibility to redress the situation. In remarks on June 10, 1998 at a conference on Cyprus he stated:


'But above all, I blame the United States. We knew what was going on and we could have stopped it. When you are then one of the world's two super powers, now the only super power, you have huge responsibilities and the responsibility is to get it right and to do something about it and we did not do either. So when I throw out the blame, I blame most of all, my own government. . . .


So, yes, a Cyprus solution is possible, but it is only possible if the United States steps up to its responsibilities and remembers its own guilt for what is the present status quo on Cyprus. To a large degree it is our fault so we have a redemption factor here'" (The United States and Cyprus pages 323-325; 2002).
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Postby Daemon » Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:13 am

Paul, do you not understand that the State Department chooses to use the term "intervention" to cover up Kissinger's wrong-doings? Please note:


"Ambassador Thomas Boyatt, the Cyprus Desk Officer in 1974 who disagreed with Kissinger, was transferred to Chile in the fall of 1974. He had a distinguished career and was honored for his work by his peers. He has stated that the U.S. has a moral responsibility to redress the situation. In remarks on June 10, 1998 at a conference on Cyprus he stated:


'But above all, I blame the United States. We knew what was going on and we could have stopped it. When you are then one of the world's two super powers, now the only super power, you have huge responsibilities and the responsibility is to get it right and to do something about it and we did not do either. So when I throw out the blame, I blame most of all, my own government. . . .


So, yes, a Cyprus solution is possible, but it is only possible if the United States steps up to its responsibilities and remembers its own guilt for what is the present status quo on Cyprus. To a large degree it is our fault so we have a redemption factor here'" (The United States and Cyprus pages 323-325; 2002).


By studding history I just wonder where they found all this patience with Makarios government when Cypriots did everything possible to turn NATO against them by cooperating and run after the Russians in the middle of the cold war and while USA did everything possible to help Cyprus before some years of the invasion and before they lost their patience. The question is not why they did not stopped the invasion after what happened, but if they had something to do with the coup. For the second I have my doubts because the coup was always in our(Greek) plans after you signed your independence and Hounta people was so stupid that is possible what they did it by them self’s.

Of course we have our responsibilities for what is going on in Cyprus but you was never listening us (and you choose to listen us in Zyrich for your bud luck) and we had lost many opportunities to solve the problem where America and NATO was supporting Greek government and made everything possible to bring enosis after what happened at 63 and even then you choose to run after the Russians that they was always exploit you and in the end they was supporting Turkey and adopting their positions at variance with USA that was friendlier to our positions.
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Postby phoenix » Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:50 am

Daemon wrote:By studding history I just wonder where they found all this patience with Makarios government when Cypriots did everything possible to turn NATO against them by cooperating and run after the Russians in the middle of the cold war and while USA did everything possible to help Cyprus before some years of the invasion and before they lost their patience. The question is not why they did not stopped the invasion after what happened, but if they had something to do with the coup. For the second I have my doubts because the coup was always in our(Greek) plans after you signed your independence and Hounta people was so stupid that is possible what they did it by them self’s.

Of course we have our responsibilities for what is going on in Cyprus but you was never listening us (and you choose to listen us in Zyrich for your bud luck) and we had lost many opportunities to solve the problem where America and NATO was supporting Greek government and made everything possible to bring enosis after what happened at 63 and even then you choose to run after the Russians that they was always exploit you and in the end they was supporting Turkey and adopting their positions at variance with USA that was friendlier to our positions.


Greece was doubly responsible for Cyprus' current situation.
Apart from the coup in 1974; Cyprus as part of Greece would have made Greece the most powerful force in the Mediterranean. This was not desirable to the US or Britain (or Turkey).

"Geopolitics
. . . If “enosis” were actually achieved by Cyprus with Greece, it would be Greece, rather than Turkey, that is the United States’ favorite ally in the region. Additionally, Britain would not have Cyprus to use as its “military landing strip” in the Eastern Mediterranean. Hence, a vacuum of power would have seen Greece as the dominant force in the region; not Britain, Israel, Turkey or the United States of America.

When the British introduced the concept of “taksim” in the mid 1950’s in order to keep Greek-Cypriots right to self-determination oppressed, they also created the climate for what exists today. If “enosis” was achieved, Greece would not only control the islands of Rhodes and Crete, but it would also control Cyprus. In other words, every country would be trying to please Greece, rather than Turkey.

Geopolitics and the desire for global dominance are relevant in Cyprus. Due to Cyprus’ position geographically, she has been left at the mercy of States that have wanted to keep Cyprus divided, rather than united. This should not be overlooked, and it has, in all stages of negotiations relating to Cyprus’ future."
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Postby Daemon » Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:53 am

I agree with the above but Enosis could achieved if you had accepted the Harting plan like we suggest you to do (and while Harting was making the suggestion some fools was bomping). And enosis could achieved with the Atchison plan if you didn’t run after the Russians that they wanted to cause problems in NATO between Greece and Turkey. But this is history now we are moving forward (at least we are).

And if you didn’t lose the opportunity to throw out Turkey from Cyprus with the Anan plan they was going to lose the geopolitical advantage they have because of Cyprus and this is what USA wanted and not only because the Iraq conflict. But of course for another one time you choose to go after the Russians that they didn’t want Europe and USA to have full control of the area.
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Postby Filitsa » Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:01 am

Daemon wrote: The question is not why they did not stopped the invasion after what happened, but if they had something to do with the coup.


The failure of the U.S. to stop the invasion reeks of complicity, so of course, they had something to do with the coup.
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