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Postby insan » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:18 pm

in the end , diaspora managed to make a few european country believed their genocide story. history won't forget the biggest story. i'm very excited about that when all of the arcihives are opened, the face of brain-washed armenians. (fanatic of crazy diaspora)



Moreover, the anti-Turk and anti-muslim Christian democrats(bigot concervatives of EU, i.e EPP) have been looking such kind of fictitious story to prevent Turkish accession to EU. These bigots use any kind of excuse in order to stop Turks joining EU.
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Postby unnamedman » Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:33 pm

insan wrote:
in the end , diaspora managed to make a few european country believed their genocide story. history won't forget the biggest story. i'm very excited about that when all of the arcihives are opened, the face of brain-washed armenians. (fanatic of crazy diaspora)



Moreover, the anti-Turk and anti-muslim Christian democrats(bigot concervatives of EU, i.e EPP) have been looking such kind of fictitious story to prevent Turkish accession to EU. These bigots use any kind of excuse in order to stop Turks joining EU.


it's over. every year in this times, diaspora starts a propoganda all over the world. to get angry Turkey. but this year Turkey will give the dynamite that had been done by armenians to destroy us their back. how? we opened our archives, yeah.. Surprise! What you gonna do?
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Postby Dawn » Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:32 am

unnamedman wrote:it's over. every year in this times, diaspora starts a propoganda all over the world. to get angry Turkey. but this year Turkey will give the dynamite that had been done by armenians to destroy us their back. how? we opened our archives, yeah.. Surprise! What you gonna do?


You should've had your archives open all along... Why didn't the so-called Turkey open its so-called archives I don't know 10, 20, 30, 50 years ago if it wasn't hiding anything? Why open it now, after 90 years? Ah... I know why, the EU! You need to look all good and innocent to get into EU... So, what does Erdogan do? He plays innocent by opening the so-called archives and inviting Armenians to study it... Yeah sure.... Who are you trying to kid?

PS The word "so-called" sure gets annoying sometimes, no?

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Everyone know that there is a reason, for that most of the countries haven't recognize the genocide. Who cares Turkey? These countries hadn't let us to keep Apo (Leader of PKK) in jail for years. It took time, to understand that he was a leader of terrorism group. Like before, it'll take time to understand that there wasn't a genocide.

So it will take its place in the history, "So-Called Genocide Comedy" by Armenian Diaspora, presents of Paramount Pictures and Warner Bros.


If you seriously don't know the reason why some countries haven't recognized the genocide, then perhaps the "political forum" is the wrong place for you to be posting. :wink:

On the other hand, European Parliament, France, Russia, Switzerland, Canada, Argentina, Greece, Cyprus, Sweden, Lebanon, Uruguay, Bulgaria, Poland, Slovakia, Belgium and the Netherlands have all recognized the genocide. You seriously think you and your Turkish friends know more than the scholars and historians of those countries? lol
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Postby unnamedman » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:17 am

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unnamedman wrote:it's over. every year in this times, diaspora starts a propoganda all over the world. to get angry Turkey. but this year Turkey will give the dynamite that had been done by armenians to destroy us their back. how? we opened our archives, yeah.. Surprise! What you gonna do?


You should've had your archives open all along... Why didn't the so-called Turkey open its so-called archives I don't know 10, 20, 30, 50 years ago if it wasn't hiding anything? Why open it now, after 90 years? Ah... I know why, the EU! You need to look all good and innocent to get into EU... So, what does Erdogan do? He plays innocent by opening the so-called archives and inviting Armenians to study it... Yeah sure.... Who are you trying to kid?

PS The word "so-called" sure gets annoying sometimes, no?

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Everyone know that there is a reason, for that most of the countries haven't recognize the genocide. Who cares Turkey? These countries hadn't let us to keep Apo (Leader of PKK) in jail for years. It took time, to understand that he was a leader of terrorism group. Like before, it'll take time to understand that there wasn't a genocide.

So it will take its place in the history, "So-Called Genocide Comedy" by Armenian Diaspora, presents of Paramount Pictures and Warner Bros.


If you seriously don't know the reason why some countries haven't recognized the genocide, then perhaps the "political forum" is the wrong place for you to be posting. :wink:

On the other hand, European Parliament, France, Russia, Switzerland, Canada, Argentina, Greece, Cyprus, Sweden, Lebanon, Uruguay, Bulgaria, Poland, Slovakia, Belgium and the Netherlands have all recognized the genocide. You seriously think you and your Turkish friends know more than the scholars and historians of those countries? lol



yeah, i have heard these shit millions of time. please, look my preview posts and understand what i mean.

noone cares Turkey. We have no petrol, or natural gas. So, please don't tell me that economic and political relationships are the reason of not to recognized so-called genocide.

We don't have to join EU. I'll be happy but we don't care. EU thinks about it, we have a young population but EU getting older year by year. They have no choice, even 40 years later they have to accept us. And we have another choices, we have great plans about, United Turkish Republic, or co-op with Russia. We have lots of choice. We opened our archives just because this bullshit is getting out of control. So why these countries waited for 90 years, ha? Isn't it interesting? No one wait for Jews genocide for 90 years!
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Postby insan » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:40 am

On the other hand, European Parliament, France, Russia, Switzerland, Canada, Argentina, Greece, Cyprus, Sweden, Lebanon, Uruguay, Bulgaria, Poland, Slovakia, Belgium and the Netherlands have all recognized the genocide. You seriously think you and your Turkish friends know more than the scholars and historians of those countries? lol


Again you confuse the self-seeker politicians of those countries with the scholars and historians. Tell me a few Russian, Pollish, Greek, Dutch, Lebanese etc historians and scholars who have studies about the so-called Armenian genocide.
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Postby unnamedman » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:49 pm

insan wrote:
On the other hand, European Parliament, France, Russia, Switzerland, Canada, Argentina, Greece, Cyprus, Sweden, Lebanon, Uruguay, Bulgaria, Poland, Slovakia, Belgium and the Netherlands have all recognized the genocide. You seriously think you and your Turkish friends know more than the scholars and historians of those countries? lol


Again you confuse the self-seeker politicians of those countries with the scholars and historians. Tell me a few Russian, Pollish, Greek, Dutch, Lebanese etc historians and scholars who have studies about the so-called Armenian genocide.


perhaps dawns must create new stories about historians who have never existed.
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Postby garbitsch » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:12 pm

Explain this: If the existence of Armenian Genocide is something undiscussable, why did it take 90 years for these countries in the list to recognise it? What's the attitude of the rest of the world apart from 15 countries?
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Postby unnamedman » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:23 pm

garbitsch wrote:Explain this: If the existence of Armenian Genocide is something undiscussable, why did it take 90 years for these countries in the list to recognise it? What's the attitude of the rest of the world apart from 15 countries?



"please, noooo

they hadn't wanted to risk their relationship with Turkey!"

usual answer is this.! if you ask me, it's bullshit!
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Postby garbitsch » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:36 pm

Yea, it's because only 15 states "dared" to make a "research" on the Armenian "genocide". We should always decide on one side's opinions :lol:
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Postby gabaston » Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:55 pm

I’m not gonna deny AG, nor accept it. I wasn’t there, I dont know anything about it, and im not gonna believe too much of what I read about it either.

On the basis of no smoke without fire It might have happened. Without condoning it, all I have ever been told is that during world war one Britain and other countires encouraged The Armenians into joining forces and help topple the ottomans during their last days. In return Britain and Co. would grant Armenia independence, if Britain and the other powers defeated The Ottomans.

So not only did Turkey face invasion of by British, French, Italian, Greek, Russian, Australian, New Zealand and Canadian forces. They also had this enemy from within.

No massacre can be condoned ever, but this being true it would not be beyond reasonable belief that The Ottomans would not have been too pleased at having Armenians plotting Ottoman downfall from within, whilst other nations were waiting to carve it up from the outside.

This would not have been accepted by any country, especially not during those Empire building years. I’m not saying any genocide is commendable, nor defendable,
but there are always three versions of every event, and if it is true, Turks should acknowledge it, just as every nation who ever attempted genocide should.

The good news is that at least today there is an Armenia, (not that I know much about it).

So, how about an acknowledgement for the massacres of 60 –74. and like Armenia a place to live without the fear of anymore?
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