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Postby YeReVaN » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:13 pm

LOL you are realy comic. You even dont let us to change our race.

Wait we were greek. We changed our religion and assimilated


What the hell did you say? Do you even understand what you are saying?
Change your race? You were Greek? Change your religion assimilation?

?????????????????????????????????
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Postby Murtaza » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:15 pm

YeReVaN wrote:
LOL you are realy comic. You even dont let us to change our race.

Wait we were greek. We changed our religion and assimilated


What the hell did you say? Do you even understand what you are saying?
Change your race? You were Greek? Change your religion assimilation?

?????????????????????????????????


Sorry my friend but I am sure half of people live in anatolia have greek blood. and maybe 10% Armenia blood.
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Postby YeReVaN » Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:05 pm

And your point is?
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Postby Murtaza » Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:07 pm

YeReVaN wrote:And your point is?


I have no point but maybe you have some other bloods too. It is just a word nothing more.
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Postby YeReVaN » Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:16 pm

Murtaza wrote:
YeReVaN wrote:And your point is?


I have no point but maybe you have some other bloods too. It is just a word nothing more.


What a bright man you are. The more I read your responses, the more you amaze me.
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Postby Red Brigade10 » Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:48 am

actually biological evidence suggests we are more brothers with turks then with armenians.

and any denial of that is just as sad as the brainwashing murtaza has obviously received.



Do you have an article which in order to back up your claim that Turks are supposed to be geneticaly our ''brothers''?

All the people living in the Ottoman Empire must have been racialy mixed acording to common logic.That must have happened with many different ways.Usually it was because they ,the Turks, were gathering the kids of the christians in order to turn them to Turks,for millitary purposes, the Jenissaries.Or simply because they were taking our women i suppose.Although i have seen many Turks with very....Turanic and Arabic characteristics.For example check the Turkish football national team that we played against today.The majority of them had Turanic and Arabic characteristics.Moreover i have the impression that the Turkish people generaly are a mixture between Arabs and original oriental Turks.I will try to search about it.

By the way i called brothers the armenians , not because of any genetic or blood relations, but because culturaly the Armenians are the most closest people to the Greeks.I am not talking about Christianity or Orthodox religion ,but about the language.

Greek is the only language on its branch of the Indo-European family tree. Its closest relations are the Indo-Iranian languages, and Armenian.This is not a theory ,but a fact.Do you want me to proove it or do you beleive me? :D
I don't need to mention that the modern goals of the Greeks and the Armenians are confounded. :wink:

As for the cultural relation with the Turks, i honestly don't see any.Unless if you classify Kebab,tsifteteli and few slang Turkish words(which are rarely used anymore) as ''culture'' :?

:!: PS:I have the impression that this , ''Turks and Greeks are similliar'' cult, has immediatly to do with the Greek policy for the past 6-5 years, which is trying to bring our people closer to each other,obviously for political reasons.The point is , we don't have the right to rewrite or forget the history to bring two nations closer , for the sake of the truth.
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Postby YeReVaN » Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:29 am

Greek is the only language on its branch of the Indo-European family tree. Its closest relations are the Indo-Iranian languages, and Armenian.This is not a theory ,but a fact.Do you want me to proove it or do you beleive me?
I don't need to mention that the modern goals of the Greeks and the Armenians are confounded


Actually I think you are little mistaken on this one my Greek brother.
Linguists theorize that 5,000-7,000 years ago the Proto-Indo-European language splintered into dialects, one of which was Armenian, a separate branch of the Indo-European language family. As Indo-European speakers spread throughout Eurasia from Iceland to India, many languages such as French and Spanish developed from a common intermediate source, like Latin, whereas the Armenian language evolved directly from its Proto-Indo-European roots.


But you are right Armenian and Greek cultures have a lot of similarities.
If you are interested, here is a great site to know little more about Armenia.
http://armeniainfo.am/index.php
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Postby YeReVaN » Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:51 am

Armenia is one of the oldest countries in the world with a recorded history of about 3500 years. The oldest known ancestors of modern Armenians, the Hayasa-Azzi tribes, also known as Proto-Armenians, were indigenous to the Armenian Highland in Eastern Anatolia. These tribes formed the Nairi tribal union, which existed until late 13th century BC. The legendary forefather of Armenians, Hayk, famous for his battles with Babylonian ruler Bel, most likely was one of the Hayasa tribal leaders. The words 'Nairi' and 'Nairian' are still used by Armenians as poetic synonyms of the words 'Armenia' and 'Armenian'.

At the end of the second millennium BC, another Indo-European ethnic group, closely related to Thracians and Phrygians and referred to by the Greeks as Armens, migrated to the Armenian Highland from Northern Balkans. According to a Greek myth, which actually reflects this tribal migration, the forefather of Armenians - Armenios - was one of the Argonauts, accompanying Jason in his quest for the Golden Fleece. In the year 1115 BC, king Tiglath Pileser I of Assyria reports a battle with a force of 20.000 Armens in the Gadmokh province of Assyria.


At that time Turks didn't even exist, so I don't think Turks and Greeks have much similarities (if you want to talk about genetic similarities)
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Postby YeReVaN » Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:56 am

The Indo-Europeans

Armenian is a separate branch of the Indo-European language family, though it has similarities to languages as far flung as Indian Sanskrit, Persian, Old Greek (Ponti) and Aramaic. The largest of the language families, the Indo-European "tree" is now believed to have sprung from the Armenian Highlands. Developing into sub-branches by around 7000 BC, Indo-European (also known as "Hindo-Aryan") peoples broke off into two main sub-groups: Greek-Armenian and Indo-Iranian. Around 4000 BC, these ethnic groups further subdivided into the Greek-Armenian, Indian Sanskrit, and the Iranian languages.


As you see there are a lot of similarities from thousands of years ago in Greek and Armenian languages.
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Postby Red Brigade10 » Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:58 am

You are right there.Greek is not the only on its branch of the Indo-European family.I wanted to write that the Greek language is a separate branch on its own in the Indo-European family , not that Greek is the only language on its own of the Indo-European family.

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