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Postby YeReVaN » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:05 pm

quote]Acording to genetic, Turks greeks and cypriot are brothers




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Postby YeReVaN » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:06 pm

TRIAL OVER LAWYER AYHAN TO LAUNCH IN ANKARA

He is Charged With Uttering 'Armenian Massacres'

Daily Azg has informed the readers about the new Turkish penal code which prosecutes for recalling the Armenian Genocide. In an article titled "Lawsuit for Uttering Armenian Massacres" on June 3 Milliyet newspaper confirmed our information. The person to stand the trial was lawyer Medeni Ayhan who made a speech at the session of the Union of Lawyers of Ankara on October 17 2004 where he said, "As a representative of Kurdish nation and a citizen of Kurdistan I defend Kurds' right for an independent state".

Basing on these words of Ayhan, the Prosecutor's Office of Ankara filed a lawsuit against him in February applying the 312d article of the old penal code as the new one was not yet in force. Following the new penal code the same Prosecutor's Office accused Ayhan for the following sentence: "The Ottoman Empire carried out the massacre of one and a half million Armenians by the hands of Hamidian horsemen and Ittihat Party members. I sympathize with the Armenian people and bow my head in homage to the victims".

The statement about the "Armenian massacres" gave the Ankara prosecutor's Office a cause for the second lawsuit against Ayhan this time applying the 216th article of the new penal code, which is the replication of the 312d article, Milliyet claims. Though the chairman of Ankara's Union of Lawyers, Vedat A. Josar, said concerning Ayhan's speech that "even astonishing ideas may have adherents", the Supreme Headquarters of Turkish armed forces brought a suit against the defendant applying the 305th article of the penal code.

This means that along with the expression "Armenian genocide" the "Armenian massacres" is also viewed as a penal action prosecuted by two -- 216 and 305 -- articles. The trial of lawyer Medeni Ayhan launched yesterday and is proceeding in accordance with the new penal code.

Milliyet points out that it was in the first time in the country that "opining for the fact of Armenian massacres" is considered a crime. "If Ayhan is condemned for his views then the 216th article of the new penal code can be applied for those putting forward views opposing the state thesis. Thus, many intellectuals holding to different views than the official one will face trial as Ayhan".
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Postby magikthrill » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:11 pm

belgium also prosecutes those denying the armenian genocide...
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Postby erolz » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:16 pm

YeReVaN wrote: It was not me who stated that. I will look into that. But I will not be surprised if it was correct.


My mistake and I appologise for it. The claim was made by Red Brigade10 and not you. Sorry.

for info what he said was

"It is really entertaining , do you want me to post you the names of some of the Turkish Journalists sent in prison because they designed a cartoon character? "

the fact is that no one was sent to prision for this cartoon. There was a prosecution and a fine but no jail term imposed.

some info here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4314933.stm

Now I do not agree with such a prosecution it is not right to say that the creator was jailed for making and publishing it. He was not. He was fined.
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Postby Murtaza » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:19 pm

magikthrill wrote:
Murtaza wrote:Acording to genetic, Turks greeks and cypriot are brothers.
Well.


the truth. ugly truth for some :-D.

also on a sidenote

BROTHER,

have you set the record for starting the longest lasting thread on this forum?

just wondering :lol:


Magic acording to genetics, We have just %20 Turanic(Turkish) gens. :shock:

And most of them is in middle anatolia. I hope I have some turanic gens to :?

I didnt start longest one but I helped much I think. :twisted:
Just have to much free time
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Postby magikthrill » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:24 pm

Murtaza wrote:I didnt start longest one but I helped much I think. :twisted:
Just have to much free time


i think we all do :)
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Postby Murtaza » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:26 pm

3) Suç savaş hâli dışında işlendiği takdirde, bu nedenle kovuşturma yapılması Adalet Bakanının iznine bağlıdır

It means if crime is happened in peace time, For making prosecution, permission of Minister of Justice is must.

I dont understand this much.
And For criming you should also take benefit or money from the out side of Turkey. Without benefit Noone enter the rule of this law.
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Postby YeReVaN » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:27 pm

belgium also prosecutes those denying the armenian genocide...


It did not become a law as of today.
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Postby Murtaza » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:28 pm

But you have a law in France
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Postby YeReVaN » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:33 pm

Murtaza wrote:But you have a law in France


We have a law? The french people have a law.
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