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[YeReVaN]

They don't say it for no reason, "Once a Turk, always a Turk". Fugure it out.

hmm let me become someone like you.

once an Armenian Always an armenian.

You backstabed Greeks.
And you backstabed us.
So who is next?

LoL Go tell those fairy tales to someone else.

[YeReVaN]

RYZHKOV: ARMENIAN GENOCIDE WORLD POWERS KEPT SILENT FOR MANY YEARS SHOULD BE DENOUNCED

02.06.2005 02:28

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Armin Wegner and the Armenian Genocide exhibition opened in Moscow Tuesday at the hall of the Russian Cultural Fund. The exhibition, organized by the Russian-Armenia Cooperation Organization and the Russian Cultural Fund, is the brightest event out of those marking the 90th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide in the Russian capital, reported the Yerkramas, the newspaper of Armenians of Russia. The exhibits are based on the book by Italian author Giovanni Guaita A Cry form Ararat: Armin Wegner and the Armenian Genocide recently published in Moscow. Russian State Duma Deputies, prominent scholars, representatives of the Serbian, Kurdish, Assyrian, Tatar communities of Moscow attended the opening ceremony. Senator Nikolay Ryzhkov was the first person the evening host Artem Karapetian gave an opportunity to speak. Recalling the recent common past, Mr. Ryzhkov noted the importance of denouncing the mass crime, of which world powers kept silent for many years. He noted that it is very important today for non-Armenians to join the fair struggle of the Armenian people. MP Natalia Narochinskaya noted with regret that the small nation was sacrificed to the interests of world powers. The speech of Professor Yuri Barsegov attracted special interest as usual. The international law specialist considers that the recognition of the Armenian Genocide should be achieved via International Law with the following compensation. Armin Wegner and the Armenian Genocide is the third work of the Italian scholar referring to the Armenian issue. He addressed the topic to present the rich archive of the German officer, an eyewitness of the horrible events to the world, thus reminding the humanity the cruel pages of the history. At present Guaita works on his fourth work devoted to Armenians. As reported by head of the Russian-Armenian Cooperation Organization Yuri Navoyan, in cooperation with Armenian communities the exhibition will be presented in the Russian regions.

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[Murtaza]

No you dont know?

Hmm Maybe all your knowledge about Armenians are.
"Turks killed us"

A wrong history.

[YeReVaN]

Have you ever wonderes why the whole world talks and recognizes the Armenian Genocide. But only Turkey has a different story? Have you ever wondered about that and have you ever asked yourselves, maybe my government is covering up something? Have you ever thoght about that?

[YeReVaN]

Parliamentary amendments drawn up ahead of 1st June to the Turkish Penal Code on freedom of expression related articles are very inadequate, says international journalists rights organization RSF. They share concerns of Turkish colleagues.

BIA (Paris) - Reporters Without Borders (RSF) said it shared the concerns of Turkish journalists over threats to press freedom from a new criminal law that still needed major amendments before coming into force on 1st June.

Despite revisions voted by parliament after it was adjourned on 31 March 2005 following strong media protests, the organization repeated its call for the removal of prison sentences for press offences.

"Far from bringing Turkish law into line with European law on freedom of expression, some articles of the code on the contrary would facilitate arbitrary legal action against journalists and entailing a climate of self-censorship damaging to press freedom", it said.

Several articles of the new code are particularly perilous. Article 305, which punishes acts that go against "fundamental national interests" by prison sentences of three to ten years, threatens journalists and the right of the public to be informed.

Any claim to do with the "Armenian genocide" or "withdrawal of Turkish armed forces in Cyprus" would be considered as against"fundamental national interests".

Dozens of journalists have been imprisoned in the past for having simply expressed their opinion on this type of subject.

Turkish deputies did nevertheless agree to remove paragraph 2 of the article which set out a 50 percent increase in sentences if the offence was committed via the press.

Article 301 that is to replace 159 has been used in the past to severely punish any criticism of parliament, the justice system or the security forces.

It will be termed in future "Humiliation of Turkish identity, the Republic, state institutions and bodies".

It will allow wide scope for interpretation and threaten anyone criticizing Turkish identity, the state or parliament with a prison sentence of six months to three years. Any person who attacks the government, justice system or the security forces moreover faces six months to two years in prison.

Article 285 threatens with four and half years in prison anyone "violating the confidentiality of an investigation". This could be a serious threat to the right of journalists to protect their sources.

Article 277 punishes anyone trying to "sway the justice system" with two to four years in prison and potentially puts in danger journalists covering court proceedings.

Under Article 267 of the new code, defamation in the press with the aim of exposing someone to a judicial investigation is liable to a one to four-year prison sentence.

Article 216, formerly 312, punishes with one to three years in prison "deliberate incitement of a section of the population to hatred and hostility through discrimination on the basis of race, region or membership of a religious group, against another section of the population" that causes "a clear and direct danger to the public" (paragraph 1).

"Humiliation of a section of the population due to social, religious, sexual or regional differences" is liable to a sentence of six months to one year in prison (paragraph 2). "Overt humiliation of a person because of their religious principles is liable to six months to one year in prison if the offence threatens social peace" (Paragraph 3). This "humiliation", a very vague legal concept, capable of being interpreted very widely by jurisprudence, directly threatens freedom of expression both for journalists and for the general public.

This is not an exhaustive list. Turkish journalists and press freedom organisations see parliamentary amendments drawn up ahead of 1st June to the
version of the code as it was to have been applied on 1st April, as very inadequate. They consider that only six of the 20 problematic points have been revised Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s government. (YE)

Call for major amendments to new criminal code that threatens press freedom

RSF
31/05/2005

[Murtaza]

Have you ever wonderes why the whole world talks and recognizes the Armenian Genocide. But only Turkey has a different story? Have you ever wondered about that and have you ever asked yourselves, maybe my government is covering up something? Have you ever thoght about that?

have you ever thought which country recognise it?
have you ever thought about why ottomans archive dont show any genocide?
Have you ever thought why Turkish officer who give harm Armenians hanged?
Have you ever thought why Turks killed armenians?
have you ever thought why Armenia Govermend didnt accept Erdoğan proposal?
Have you ever thought maybe my government is covering up something?

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Turkish conference on killings of Armenians is postponed
By Associated Press | May 26, 2005

ANKARA -- Three Turkish universities postponed a conference to discuss last century's mass killings of Armenians by Ottoman Turks after the justice minister accused organizers of ''treachery," officials said yesterday.

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In the three-day conference, which was scheduled to start yesterday at Istanbul's Bosporus University, academics intended to debate Turkey's official position on the deaths that occurred as the Ottoman Empire forced Armenians from eastern Turkey between 1915 and 1923.

The issue, a dark chapter in Turkish history, is rarely taught in schools, and it would have been the first time a conference questioning the official line was held.

The postponement -- a sign that Turkey may not be ready to tolerate dissenting voices on sensitive subjects -- could be a further setback to Turkey's efforts to join the European Union, which is pressuring the country to adopt greater freedoms. The country is scheduled to start membership talks on Oct. 3.

In a speech in parliament Tuesday, Justice Minister Cemil Cicek severely criticized the conference, saying it went against government efforts to counter an Armenian campaign to have the killings recognized as genocide.

Some ''say there is no freedom, well there is the freedom of stabbing the people in the back and of telling lies. . . . We have to put an end to this period of propaganda . . . of treachery," Cicek said.

Armenians say Ottoman Turks killed some 1.5 million of their people in a deliberate campaign of genocide. Turkey says the death count is inflated and insists that Armenians were killed or displaced in civil unrest during the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.

Organizers issued a statement hours after Cicek's speech saying the conference was postponed. Hundreds of people were scheduled to take part in the conference, organized by Bosporus, Bilgi, and Sabanci universities.

Muge Gocek, a professor of sociology at the University of Michigan who traveled to Istanbul for the conference, said she was disillusioned.

''How can anyone judge me without hearing what I have to say?" she asked.

A human rights organization was critical of Cicek. ''We strongly condemn politicians, and especially the Justice Minister . . . who prevented the Armenian conference from taking place through pressure, threats, and statements that make [organizers] targets" for attacks, the Ankara-based Human Rights Association said.

[Murtaza]

http://groups.google.com.tr/group/soc.c ... dc6b?hl=tr

Read it.
It is one-sided.
But at least you can learn other side

[YeReVaN]

Have you ever wonderes why the whole world talks and recognizes the Armenian Genocide. But only Turkey has a different story? Have you ever wondered about that and have you ever asked yourselves, maybe my government is covering up something? Have you ever thoght about that?

have you ever thought which country recognise it?
have you ever thought about why ottomans archive dont show any genocide?
Have you ever thought why Turkish officer who give harm Armenians hanged?
Have you ever thought why Turks killed armenians?
have you ever thought why Armenia Govermend didnt accept Erdoğan proposal?
Have you ever thought maybe my government is covering up something?[/quote

You sound like a little kid. You don't know what your talking about. Open your eyes to the real world. YOU ARE BRAINWASHED.

[YeReVaN]

LOL are you fuckin kidding me? A Turk wrote that bull shit and it is not one sided. Give me a fuckin brake.