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Postby Murtaza » Tue May 31, 2005 7:28 pm

YeReVaN wrote:
Murtaza wrote:we will see.
I dont think anyone will ever jailed because of Armenian genocide.

And I said you before this law are not related with Armenian genocide.
And This is a delibaretly lie.

How many Turks killed by armenians?
Didnt you answer this question?
None?
Or didnt you count life of Turkish people(do you accept them as a homo sapiens?)?


If you don't know anybody that was jailed, doesn't meen nobody has been jailes. There are 70 million people living in Turkey. I don't think you know every single one of them. The law is very much related to Armenian Genocide. CAN"T YOU READ. ANYBODY WHO SAIS THAT ARMENIAN GENOCIDE IS TOOK PLACE CAN GO TO JAIL FOR UP TP 10 YEARD. Supposedly it will damage your national interests. Second of all I can't tell you how many Turks were killed by Armenians. I'm sure there were Turks killed by Armenians. In self defense. But it sure was nothing to compare with slaughter of Armenian people bu Turks.


In selfdefense?
Oh good defence against the children!
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Postby YeReVaN » Tue May 31, 2005 7:31 pm

That's all you had to say?
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Postby YeReVaN » Tue May 31, 2005 7:33 pm

You see soldiers come to your village and kill your pleaple burn the houses,what are you going to do. Bend your hands and see what happenes? Of course you are going to defend yourself.
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Postby Murtaza » Tue May 31, 2005 7:50 pm

Arinc: Armenian Conference Should be Held
By Ali Halit Aslan, Anadolu News Agency (aa)
Published: Friday 27, 2005
zaman.com


The Speaker of the Turkish Parliament Bulent Arinc said that a proposed conference on the Armenian Genocide allegations that is opposed by the government and the opposition should go ahead.

Arinc noted that the conference should be accepted in the frame of freedom of speech and added: "Even if I do not like it, the speeches should not be prevented." The Speaker contributed to the argument about the Armenian Genocide conference to be organized in Bosphorous University (BU) started by Minister of Justice Cemil Cicek who fumed the other day that to hold this conference is a "stab in the back of the Turkish people". Arinc paying a visit to US spoke at the Center of Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), a think tank organization in Washington. He criticized laws in France and Switzerland that ban denial of the Genocide as being against freedoms of speech and he also signalled to the US Congress on the genocide issue that: "ones who produce policies for only local concerns may sometimes try to misuse the legislative body for policy. At this point I want to note that this puts the US Congress in a position where it feels obliged to decide on historical issues."
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Postby YeReVaN » Tue May 31, 2005 7:54 pm

ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.
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Postby Murtaza » Tue May 31, 2005 7:54 pm

YeReVaN wrote:ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.


So show me one jailed :wink:
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Postby Murtaza » Tue May 31, 2005 7:58 pm

'Provided there is no advocation of violence, everyone can discuss their views, including extreme opinions, within the framework of the Constitution and the law,' says the foreign minister

ANKARA - Turkish Daily News


Freedom of expression has long existed in Turkey, thus there is no truth to allegations that the Turkish government was involved in postponing a conference on the Armenian issue at Boğaziçi University, said Foreign Minister Abdullah Gül.

Gül was responding to a reporter's question before his departure for Bahrain late on Sunday, when he emphasized that the government did not make any suggestion or put pressure on the Boğaziçi University Rector's Office, which last week postponed a conference scheduled for May 25, to a later but yet to be specified date after politicians condemned the conference and its participants for having ideas and beliefs solely against Turkey's official stance on the Armenian genocide allegations.

“There have been incorrect assumptions, as if Turkey were a country where freedom of expression has never existed. None of these [assumptions] can be accepted,” Gül said, adding that academics who would have participated in the conference have already shared their views with the Turkish public via interviews with Turkish dailies. (None of them Jailed,bombed,killed)

Neither the government nor Justice Minister Cemil Çiçek issued an order to postpone the conference, Gül added.
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Postby YeReVaN » Tue May 31, 2005 8:00 pm

I am in United States, how can I show you a jailed person? Second, r u denying that such a law exists? Don't tell me you live in Turkey and you haven't heard about it.
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Postby Murtaza » Tue May 31, 2005 8:02 pm

YÖK chairman: I wish the conference had taken place
Monday, May 30, 2005





ANKARA - Turkish Daily News


Higher Education Board (YÖK) Chairman Erdoğan Teziç said over the weekend that the postponement of an Armenian conference at Boğaziçi University was unfortunate, denying YÖK had anything to do with the decision.

Speaking during a visit to Kahramanmaraş's Sütçü İmam University, Teziç said, “If you ask me, I wish the conference had been held.”
He said YÖK had made its opinions public after learning of the postponement, adding: “I am for everybody expressing the opinions they hold; however, the public reaction was due to the conference allowing only those who objected to the official view to attend it. I believe that was why the conference was postponed.”

He said criticism of the conference went beyond raising objections, wishing it had not been so.



‘There is nothing Turkey needs to be ashamed of':

First Army Commander Gen. Hurşit Tolon said on Saturday that there was nothing in its history Turkey needed to be ashamed of, adding, “Don't be upset when you listen to those who are trying to blacken Turkey's history with biased and baseless information.”

Speaking during a visit to Gallipoli Tolon said all archives were open and that Turks would continue to be proud of what their ancestors had achieved.
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Postby Murtaza » Tue May 31, 2005 8:06 pm

Erdoğan: Let's see who says what
Monday, May 30, 2005





ANKARA - Turkish Daily News


Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said over the weekend that a postponed Armenian conference at Boğaziçi University should have been held, noting that people need not fear the opinions of others.

We should never forget that those who believe in their opinions should never be afraid of expressing them," adding that the views of the participants at the conference should have been heard.
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