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Postby Saint Jimmy » Thu May 26, 2005 12:18 pm

Yeah, you missed the part earlier when this guy was actually taking the damn pills that caused him to halucinate. Please don't go back to another meaningless, pointless and fruitless discussion, friend...
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Postby cannedmoose » Thu May 26, 2005 1:10 pm

Eshoon noor oodel chi vayeler aoxk
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Postby garbitsch » Thu May 26, 2005 1:33 pm

YeReVaN wrote:Aren't you proud of your barbaric history? No wonder so many counties can't stand Turkey. Ohh wait I forgot Turks are the Master race right? LOL


Yes, we are barbaric. Don't expect us to show sympathy towards Angel Armenians. Don't expect us to recognise the "genocide" and open the border. Let's see. When we open the border, the barbarian Turks will flow into your peaceful, democratic Armenia and slaughter the peaceful inhabitants...

Now I give a break to this subject. Thanks for urging me Jimmy :o
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Postby brother » Thu May 26, 2005 5:54 pm

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Postby YeReVaN » Thu May 26, 2005 7:08 pm

Don't expect us to recognise the "genocide" and open the border

Sooner or later you will. Even if you don't, your government will. MARK MY WORD. Your government wants to join EU too much.
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Postby Murtaza » Thu May 26, 2005 7:12 pm

YeReVaN wrote:
Don't expect us to recognise the "genocide" and open the border

Sooner or later you will. Even if you don't, your government will. MARK MY WORD. Your government wants to join EU too much.


Not that much my friend:) I think you have to stop blackmailing Turkey with the EU.
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Postby cannedmoose » Thu May 26, 2005 7:25 pm

Unless the French government explicitly places recognition of the Armenian genocide as a condition in the accession agreement, I don't see it being yet another hurdle on Turkey's EU route... there are enough hurdles to jump already that have more chance of blocking their accession.
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Postby Murtaza » Thu May 26, 2005 7:31 pm

cannedmoose wrote:Unless the French government explicitly places recognition of the Armenian genocide as a condition in the accession agreement, I don't see it being yet another hurdle on Turkey's EU route... there are enough hurdles to jump already that have more chance of blocking their accession.


We are not even sure if there is EU in future or not.
We are not sure even if we did everything , Turkey will enter in EU or not.
And even if we would be enter EU, I think Turkey will easily sacrifice her member ship, for the denying genocide or cyprus problem.
Noone will forgive Goverment if She accept genocide.(Even Turkey enter EU)

And if our economic condition becomes better, I dont think Turks want to enter EU much.
Because we gain nothing other than economic improvement.
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Postby YeReVaN » Thu May 26, 2005 7:35 pm

cannedmoose wrote:Unless the French government explicitly places recognition of the Armenian genocide as a condition in the accession agreement, I don't see it being yet another hurdle on Turkey's EU route... there are enough hurdles to jump already that have more chance of blocking their accession.

Chirac Appeases Armenians on Turkish EU Bid
Sunday's referendum in France, which will decide that country's position on the EU Constitution, has forced French politicians to use every tool at their disposal to get the Yes vote from the people.

French President Jacques Chirac yesterday used the word "genocide" for the first time when characterizing deportations of Armenians in the early 1900s to appease the powerful Armenian lobby in France, and coax their support for the EU Constitution in Sunday's referendum.

Chirac sent a letter to the Coordination Committee of the Armenian Organizations of France (CCAF), claiming that the new European Constitution "would further delay" Turkey's EU full membership.

Noting the French Parliament's recent decision recognizing the genocide, Chirac said: "France recognizes the genocide." Despite the Parliament's decision, the president has not used the word publicly, choosing instead to describe the controversial events of early 1900s as "tragic."

"The EU Constitution will promote tolerance, justice and respect for minorities," Chirac wrote in his letter. "For the first time in our history, fundamental human rights and freedom will be recognized in the EU Constitution, and will be guaranteed for all of EU citizens. Pluralism, opposition to discrimination, justice, solidarity, gender-based equality and minority rights will become mandatory for all member states."

Chirac also expressed his belief that Turkey will "refresh its memory" on the issue.
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Postby Murtaza » Thu May 26, 2005 7:36 pm

YeReVaN wrote:
cannedmoose wrote:Unless the French government explicitly places recognition of the Armenian genocide as a condition in the accession agreement, I don't see it being yet another hurdle on Turkey's EU route... there are enough hurdles to jump already that have more chance of blocking their accession.

Chirac Appeases Armenians on Turkish EU Bid
Sunday's referendum in France, which will decide that country's position on the EU Constitution, has forced French politicians to use every tool at their disposal to get the Yes vote from the people.

French President Jacques Chirac yesterday used the word "genocide" for the first time when characterizing deportations of Armenians in the early 1900s to appease the powerful Armenian lobby in France, and coax their support for the EU Constitution in Sunday's referendum.

Chirac sent a letter to the Coordination Committee of the Armenian Organizations of France (CCAF), claiming that the new European Constitution "would further delay" Turkey's EU full membership.

Noting the French Parliament's recent decision recognizing the genocide, Chirac said: "France recognizes the genocide." Despite the Parliament's decision, the president has not used the word publicly, choosing instead to describe the controversial events of early 1900s as "tragic."

"The EU Constitution will promote tolerance, justice and respect for minorities," Chirac wrote in his letter. "For the first time in our history, fundamental human rights and freedom will be recognized in the EU Constitution, and will be guaranteed for all of EU citizens. Pluralism, opposition to discrimination, justice, solidarity, gender-based equality and minority rights will become mandatory for all member states."

Chirac also expressed his belief that Turkey will "refresh its memory" on the issue.


Than good by to EU.
I dont want EU anymore.
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