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Postby garbitsch » Tue May 03, 2005 11:44 pm

That's true in Switzerland, why the hell cannot be in Belgium?
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Postby Dawn » Wed May 04, 2005 12:06 am

turkcyp wrote:
Quite honestly I thought about that too...

But seeing that he only showed interest in this topic but nothing else made me belive that he is not Cypriot. May be I am wrong who knows.

My guess he was doing some research on the internet, "most probably google" and run into this topic.

Or second guess is he is already a member that writes with another name, and he does not want his views in Armenian topci affect the reaction of other members towards him in other topics. I do not know why it should though?

But anyway I simply asked how he ended up in this forum? that's all.

For me for example, I was making some research on Cyprus problem, and this forum appeared in the google. I have started reading the other topcis and it intrigued me so I become a member.



Or maybe Dawn is a SHE!

If you really must know, I made a search about the genocide on google, and one of the sites I got was this one. I read about 7 pages of posts some people made about the genocide, and how disrespectful, misinformed, and ignorant they were on this issue, couldn't resist signing up! Oh and someone said something like I wish we had an Armenian member to hear their side. Anyway, so it's okay for others to make a thread about the genocide with all this disrespectful posts, but when an Armenian joins in, all of a sudden you question her being there in the first place? Pure Democracy... NOT! haha

So curious person, can you reply to my previous post?

magikthrill I'm not from Cyprus, but I've visited Cyprus twice... beautiful place.

gabaston I would LOVE to answer your questions, but I really think it's better if you found out on your own... when you get the chance... and don't read Turkish or Armenian sites/accounts, read foreign acounts to be unbiased. Though if you still want me to, I will.
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Postby turkcyp » Wed May 04, 2005 12:23 am

Dawn wrote:Or maybe Dawn is a SHE!

If you really must know, I made a search about the genocide on google, and one of the sites I got was this one. I read about 7 pages of posts some people made about the genocide, and how disrespectful, misinformed, and ignorant they were on this issue, couldn't resist signing up! Oh and someone said something like I wish we had an Armenian member to hear their side. Anyway, so it's okay for others to make a thread about the genocide with all this disrespectful posts, but when an Armenian joins in, all of a sudden you question her being there in the first place? Pure Democracy... NOT! haha

So curious person, can you reply to my previous post?


Of course I can reply,

As I have said in my first post "you are more than welcomed to stay in the forum and post to this topic only" It's your choice...

And your explanation was as I have guessed in the first place. I was just curious.

Furthermore an Armenian is more than free to join. As you can see I have not insulted you (other than assuming that you are a male, and sorry for that) I have just asked you a question. And you have kindly answered (with a little bit of fury I might add).
If you choose so, you could have ignored my hideous post and never answer me and still keep on posting your views on this topic.

I can not find anything undemocratic about that so far...

Did anybody in this forum tell you that you do not have a right to be here and tell your opinion. I assume not, so...

Furthermore you have said that other are making disrespectful comments about genocide. There is “freedom of speech and expression” right? There are people in this forum that call the worst things to Turks (assuming you have missed them) and still are able to write. So these people are entitled to their opinion, just like you are entitled to your opinion and dispute them and say disrespectful things. ( I would assume that many people you have responded already found your posts disrespectful anyway)

In short, I feel some sort of self defense here. There is no need to be defensive. I was just asking how you find out about this forum.

Cool down a little bit,
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Postby gabaston » Wed May 04, 2005 12:34 am

Dawn,

i dont trust too many sites coz they give a bias view as im sure you are aware. What is an independant unbiased site, and yes your understanding of these events might be an easy start point.

If you wish to learn about our plight there is a book written by a fleet street journalist, Harry Scott Gibbons. The book's title is:

"The Genocide Files"
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Postby garbitsch » Wed May 04, 2005 12:59 pm

Dawn, I also admit that you are more than welcome here. We also need Armenians, who are one of the parties that have the right to express their views on this "genocide" debate.
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Postby brother » Thu May 05, 2005 2:13 pm

QUESTION FOR DAWN OR ANY ONE ABLE TO ANSWER:

WHY HAS ARMENIA INVADED AZERBEYCAN AND IS ILLEGALLY OCCUYPYING AZERI LANDS?
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Postby metecyp » Thu May 05, 2005 3:44 pm

brother wrote:QUESTION FOR DAWN OR ANY ONE ABLE TO ANSWER:

WHY HAS ARMENIA INVADED AZERBEYCAN AND IS ILLEGALLY OCCUYPYING AZERI LANDS?

This has nothing to do with the "Armenian genocide" issue. We can start a new thread if you like to discuss Armenian occupation of Azerbaycan.
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Postby turkcyp » Thu May 05, 2005 3:47 pm

metecyp wrote:This has nothing to do with the "Armenian genocide" issue. We can start a new thread if you like to discuss Armenian occupation of Azerbaycan.


But you would think the people who are arguing for Armenian Genocide at the same time argue for Armenian atrocities commites in Azerbaijan. (I refreainde to use the word genocide not to create any provocation even though there are a lot of symtoms of state sponsored terror there)
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Postby brother » Thu May 05, 2005 3:52 pm

This has everything to do with it, you can not on one hand claim genocide and the other be commiting atrocities, so my question stands.
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Postby metecyp » Thu May 05, 2005 4:00 pm

turkcyp wrote:But you would think the people who are arguing for Armenian Genocide at the same time argue for Armenian atrocities commites in Azerbaijan. (I refreainde to use the word genocide not to create any provocation even though there are a lot of symtoms of state sponsored terror there)

brother wrote:This has everything to do with it, you can not on one hand claim genocide and the other be commiting atrocities, so my question stands.

According to some people what Israel is doing right now is ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their ancestral lands. It might be true or it might not be true but the fact is nobody can deny the Holocaust, correct? And no matter what happens with Israel today, even if they do ethnic-cleansing, Holocaust will remain as a fact. In other words, whatever Israel does today is irrelevant in terms of the existence of Holocaust. I believe the same logic applies to Armenians.
(I'm not arguing if the Armenian "genocide" happened or not, or if Armenia is right in occupying land. I'm simply pointing out that the two are irrelevant.)
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