gabaston wrote:Dawn
Thank you for brining our attention your concerns. Mass murder, ethnic cleansing, genocide are un-tolerable, even more so when totally unprovoked and by a Govt of the UN, and should be brought to account wherever possible.
Yes, exactly my point. I believe history repeats itself. And when a group responsible for extermination of an entire national, racial or ethnic group is never found guilty and punished for it, it encourages other similar actions. As we speak, a genocide goes on in Sudan’s Darfur region, but how many people know about it? Let alone, try to help? Here is the site, if anyone cares. Cay you imagine a genocide happening in the 21st century, yet no country tries to stop it! I think, by allowing a genocide to be simply denied, we are only opening doors for future racial cleansings and cover-ups.
And for Armenian forums you asked for, here are two:
http://forum.armenianclub.com
http://hyeforum.com
Insan,
Note that you never answered any of my questions! I asked you, do you think the International Association of Genocide Scholars are bought politicians as well? I also asked you why did it take so long for Turkey to open its archives? And now I’m asking you, how many witnesses does Turkey have? (cause you know, Armenians have thousand of eye witnesses both foreign and Armenian).
It’s really hard to find the names of scholars from specific countries, since they work as a team and come up with their findings. The letter from International Association of Genocide Scholars that I posted for example. There is over 100 scholars in that association. Another example, On June 9th, 2000, 126 Holocaust scholars published a resolution in the New York Times calling on the governments and people of the world to recognize the Armenian Genocide. But their specific names weren't mentioned since they work as a team.
Anyhow, these are some of the scholars I know of that have labled the ethnic cleansings of 1915 in Ottoman Empire as a genocide and have written about it. You can ’google’ them if you want. Though the main question should be: How many scholars/historians do YOU know that deny the genocide, besides McCarthy of course?! So here is my next question to you (after you answer the previous 3 that is).
Hilmar Kaiser - a German research scholar and historian from the European University Institute in Florence, Italy.
K. Anthony Appiah - Professor of Afro-American studies and Philosophy, Harvard University
Yehuda Bauer - Professor of Holocaust Studies, Hebrew University, Jerusalem
Craig Etches ton - Acting director of Cambodian Genocide program, Yale University
Roger W. Smith - history professor at College of William and Mary Williamsburg, Virginia
Eric Markusen - history professor at Southwest State University Marshall, Minnesota
Taner AkCam - Turkish historian
Robert Jay Lifton - history professor at The City University of New York
Ruth Rosen - a historian and journalist, a Professor at the University of California at Davis, she is now an editorial writer and columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle.
Irving Horowitz - an expert in the study of genocide at Rutgers University: "It is widely accepted by historians that hundreds of thousands of Armenians were massacred, arbitrarily removed from their historic homeland, and that all traces of their presence were eliminated. We have eyewitness accounts, diplomatic accounts, that huge numbers of people were liquidated, wiped out. De facto, you had a genocide. The bottom line is the Armenians got what they got because they were not a loyal minority.''
Dr. Yair Auron - Israeli scholar and historian
Muge Gocek - Turkish scientist, professor of Michigan University
Jay Winter - Yale University History Professor
Dr. Tessa Hofmann - German scholar, historian and professor of East European Studies at the University of Berlin
Leo Kuper - South Africa, professor of sociology
Raphael Lemkin - Poland, scholar, lawyer, historian; has many writing on genocide and prevention of genocide.
Charny, Israel W - Jewish scholar from Israel; Editor-in-Chief of the Encyclopedia of Genocide; Executive Director of the Institute on the Holocaust and Genocide, Jerusalem; Professor of Psychology & Family Therapy, and Founder and Former Director of the Program for Advanced Studies in Integrative Psychotherapy at the Dept. of Psychology & Martin Buber Center, Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
Adelman, Howard - Canada, Professor of Philosophy, York University
AFOUMADO Diane - Archivist and historian from Paris.
Dr. Michael Berenbaum - formerly the Director of the United States Holocaust Research Institute at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, then Chief Executive Officer of the Shoah Visual History Foundation
Dr. Juan E. Mendez - recently appointed the United Nations Special Adviser on Genocide by Kofi Annan
Ambassador David Scheffer - U.S. Ambassador at Large for War Crimes Issues during the second Clinton administration and head of the American delegation to the UN talks on the International Criminal Court.
I can give you hundreds of sites about the Armenian genocide, with documents, survivor testimonies, documentaries, etc. Do you want them?
unnamed man wrote:it's just wasting time. don't try to make comunucation. because they aren't friendly!
They aren't friendly? It’s amazing how when you don’t have anything to say, you start name calling!! When did I insult anyone in my posts? Never. If you don’t have anything to contribute to the discussion, remain silent.
