by oranos64 » Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:03 am
To all of you on the forum …TURISH CYPRIOTS ,GREEK CYPRIOTS ,ARMENIANS ,ENGLISH CYPRIOTS ,SOUTH AFRICIANS ,YANKS ,ETC ,GAYS (DAEMON )LESBIENS ETC,COMMIES ,NAZIS ,FACISTS ,FAIRIES ETC … NET NERDS ETC
READ AND FOR 3 MINUTEs (OR 6 IF YOU READ SLOWLY AND HAVE A IQ AT 114 or less ) THROW AWAY YOUR ARROGANCE AND HEAR MY PRATTLE ..I CARE NOT FOR ANY OF YOU ..YOU EXIST BECAUSE I ALLOW YOU TO EXIST IN MY WORLD (JOKE)…
Livng peacefully two communities UNDER ONE GOVERNMENT …bullshit OR A DREAM …?
FIRST PART IS MY CAVEMAN GENES LETTING OFF STEAM ,2ND PART ME TELLING IT LIKE IT IS ..3RD PART I WAS TOO TIRED TO POST ..SO READ AND SHUDD UP THE LOT OF YOU
There seems to a cowardly disease on this forum ,whereby when a poster does not wish to tell his side of a story he uses some else’s …
now tell me sirs ,all of you ,what of your experiences,let me understand why you think all will be well under one govenment etc ,What makes you all post the views you do …post me your experiences of two communities co existing in the modern day ..pick any plot of land and tell me about the communities Living peacefully …pick any part of the world …..please do
Now then explain to me ,,what makes you all look down at me, chastise me …which of you brave people dares to meet me for a coffee and tell me to my face etc etc …some of you know who I am ,the rest like most internet nerds cuss ,post the kind of comments that would loose you your teeth and head ,why ?
Are you all that brave, to the Greek Cypriots on the forum ..when I stood before 15 GWS IN ALEXANDER PALACE IN 97 …and took on all of them ,where was you placard waving cowards from the Greek movements – cyprus lobby etc etc ..yep behind me RAMBO …HAHAHAHA NO RAMBO HAS MERCY …. Stand off was it … those who were there know what I am talking about ….PATHETIC THE LOT OF YOU.
Again I ask you all is that I am I typing too fast, too much emotion, grammatical errors .shit ,shall I write a novel ..do I annoy you all,is it because I don’t want another war ,is it because like most of you, I wish to grow old and die peacefully ,is it ok to hold a Turkish Cypriot friend in your arms dying because of ethnic clashes between his people and KURDS ,ALBANIANS .. And not want to see it again..yet your government asks you to do a 3 month tour of Kosovo and see Albanians crying to the press whilst shoving bombs and grenades at Serbs etc … you expect me all to say peace and sign away our freedom and talk of this “peace process to a solution “ yeah Is that going to happen here in Cyprus ..Nope …
Is it not the right for all of you to raise your children in peace ,focusing on their education … ok I worked very hard in my life as teenager ,I exposed myself to much knowledge and now I help and integrate into the culture here … I listen and speak to the people,I have learnt a lot from all communities and I make my opinions and judgement …maybe in time I would like to move in politics …yes I can ,I have the public in my area on my side …I am well known in my town and I will be groomed for politics … fear yeah ,some of your will have some .
Now regarding my posts …
I DONT HATE NOR RESENT ANY INDIVIDUAL TURKISH CYPRIOT ... I GREW UP IN NORTH LONDON AND I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH MANY A TC ,HELL I EVEN GAVE A COUPLE OF THE FEMALES MY PLEASURE... I HAVE SOME OF THOSE GUYS OVER,now and again ..WE ARE FRIENDS, SOME ARE MOSLEM PILGRIMS ,hell I EVEN MET TALAT AND HAD TEA WITH HIM AT TEKKE MOSQUE ..SO THE LOT OF YOU NEED TO CHOW DOWN ...AND LISTEN.
I[b] truly believe in the following …TRNC WILL GAIN E.U ACCESS .THEY WILL END UP WITH THEIR OWN HALF OF THE ISLAND AND MANAGE IT THEIR WAY …NOT A SINGLE EMP ,NOR U,N delegate will change that ..this is written in stone. Too late too little done by the ROC GOVERNMENT TO CHANGE THAT. take the money when its offered and spend it wisely on the people ..Economy ,infrastructure ,etc …NOW AS FOR THAT POST [/b]
WHAT I WAS REFERING TO WAS NOT EVEN MY VIEW,..BUT THE VIEWS OF THE MULTITUDE OF GREEKS OUT HERE, WHO ARE LIVING HERE AND NOT COWARDS, WHO WILL VOTE AND SPEAK UP WHEN THE NEXT ARTICLE IS THROWN UP AT THEM...AND SPEAK THEIR MINDS FOR A REAL SOLUTION.(YOU KNOW THE ONES, WHO VOTED OXI AND KNEW THEY WOULD GETS SCREWED..STILL VOTED NO ...BECAUSE THEY KNEW THE TRUTH ...THAT THE ARTICLES WERE PRO TRNC ...IT DOESN’T TAKE A GENIUS TO SEE THIS ….)
NOW ,ONCE AGAIN I STATE ,I DONT HATE NO ONE ..I HAVE DRUNK WINE WITH TURKISH CYPRIOT GENERALS AND I KNOW 100S OF TCS WHO WANT A PEACEFUL SOLUTION ...i respect them ..and i would like to add the unwash masses are those Turks who are now the multitude living in the north with more rights than the T.C ... ...I agree ..
i don’t want to see them ..i don’t ,i want to hear my language ,my church bells ,my neighbours children singing and that’s it ...i don’t want to hear the hojas wailing nor ARGUMENTS BETWEEN THE COMMUNITIES OVER PETTY THINGS IF A ONE GOVERNMENT IS FORMED …Seriously I would not have the energy nor patience with this kind of shit …they need to accept that this would never work ..the TRNC will never again accept to being a minority under greek cyp rule …and that’s a major factor to peace …
A solution based on two communities sharing the spoils and compensated via economic aid will be the solution .given to us at the right time …this is already on the cards place on the table and I and a mastakis guy agree … as for any greek Cypriot argueing …well its breath in the wind ..wake up …
As for you guys
WHAT, I DONT WANT FROM YOU ALL..ESPECIALLY AS THE MAJOURITY OF YOU ,DO NOT EVEN LIVE HERE ,NOR HAVE VOTING RIGHTS ..IS Your PATHETIC HALF THOUGH OUT SOLUTIONS AND ARROGANT FINGER POINTING, this attitude that the Greeks should do this and the tc. should DO THIS ,end it ,if you don’t live here and don’t speak to the people THEN you have lost touch and it is time for all of you to accept that both sides made mistakes ..Both are guilty ...all of you waste time ...pointing out web facts and banal facts about nothing ...QUOTING LAWS that the E.U AND OTHER ENFORCERS DONT EVEN CARE ABOUT and will never enforce..
will some of the greek Cypriots wake up and realise that the world see us as the bad guys not just the T.CS ..this notion that the Turks were evil etc ..Man ,both communities were burying people alive ,what did you expect turkey to do ..EOKA were running riot thanks to the military hunta nutters …stand back and applaud ?..,light a bonfire …both the EOKA B AND NAZIS AND TMT killed their own ,to get their people to agree to ethnic clashes.both communities are guilty.
It is time to look around you and see the island for what it has become ,the people need unity ,the E.U is given us solutions and we need to get on with developing our workforce and focus on positives …it is time that Cypriots ,held a hand out to their neighnbour ,time to work together ,get organise ,plan ,develop ..the government cannot plan nor do the above if it wastes 70% of its spare time saying “ we can not plan for this because it will change under reunification “ 30 plus years now and yet no plans for refuse dumping exist in south cyprus ....
Army of the ROC
SOME OF YOU ARE UPSET THAT I CUSS THE NATIONAL GUARD ,I respect and love the soldier of the ROC for repelling the invasion to the point of humiLiating the original land forces of the Turks…and I have frequent many a function in their memory ..it is my honour to train some of them now …. In time I will help more and more to turn the army professional and develop real programs ..right now ..they could not give my local scouts a hard time …waste of money and effort ..hop over to isreal and see real national service !!
Peace attempts? My view
IT is not the case of whether the majority can or want to get along..it is the small minority ,just like in kosovo ,northern Ireland ,etc etc who will reignite the fire ...those who will cause skirmishes ,stabbing ,shooting ,bomb here and there ...then ethnic tension and then all out fighting and then once again back to U.N administration etc etc ..yeah yeah it wont happen ...it will ...why because both communities are selfish ,hateful and evil ...they are Cypriot,don’t believe because all is well at the moment in Cyprus ..that this is all well … I have met communists anarchists who want to bomb letting agencies and building sites should the price of property continue to rise … ...everywhere somewhere they is a looney faction ...even some of them i have to respect ,they have their views and it is a democracy
Time for you all to forget the land you lost I own more land than a majority of you ,hell I aint going to let phoenixes or any of your children die on a battlefield etc ….hence I will never agree to any peace deals where the borders are completely erased etc … in the end my voice will be echoed on this by a huge majority. I forget that land ,some compensation is fine but I don’t want lots of money in my pocket and my police man neighbour in a body bag .
now miltiades ...o wise ..one in the U.K ...how do you know the view of your people ...do you 100% know their view ..Do you speak with the majoirity, minourity, do you take food to the poor,sit with young and old here and ask them their view ... ...i am afraid my view here is there view ..oxi is 75% of the country and a large percentage are very happy as things are ...yes we want famagusta back ..but for what to sell it ?if all went well ,then all of sudden we had war ..would you come over and fight …would you ..do you know the people ..have you even broke bread with Cypriots other than you own family as much as I have …seriously ..the hell are you to call me a minority ..i am the majority …,most cypriots want a peace deal but when asked if they wanted a turksih Cypriot neighbour ,the answer is OXI …the same answer comes when asked of a turkish cypriot ...they dont even want to see our churches .
viewpoint and mr n r g or whatever ...both of you are excellent pro trnc posters .good luck to you ...don’t quote me ..Understand me ..Understand all of those around you ...because once again most of your people love your views ..They want a TRNC .ALONE NO PEACE ,they know that you guys have won and they don’t care for peace now .....and yes I don’t want you living next to my massive house …or in my hood ..well maybe you can move in the house opposite across they way owned by gypsy English Cypriots …then I don’t mind .. Then again my music and lifestyle might upset you …and id shoot you etc to maintain my peace (joke )…..
RAMBO ...HECK YOU CAN CALL ME THAT ..MOST PEOPLE CALL ME SIR ,MASTER ,THE FACT THAT I SERVED IN THE PEACE CORP/U.N RRF ..MEANS I HAVE SEEN AND DONE MORE THAN YOU IN THIS FIELD ..THEREFORE AS A MILITARY LEADER ,I KNOW AND SENSE THE DANGER OF ETHNIC RESENTMENT ,WHEN I SEE IT .. MR N R G ..dont quote me without my permission …I don’t like your posts if there was a separatist here its you …you are coward ..speak your views honestly … You like most TRNC want separtisim and I am all for it …
Daemon, you blow dog mate … me a Greek nationalist please ?… my father roots like most geeks from famagusta came from Greece ,some 170 years ,my Greek flag ..it is the flag of the Greek Cypriots before the 60s it is the original flag .i used it ,because i knew it would wind up most of you.. As for your posts ..please ,you are less than shite on my shoe you weirdo “ I am a Hellenistic fan “ div … I challenge you to meet me …were you goth make up too ,…weirdo …
Phoenix ..well I respect you ..and I don’t want you to believe that i disrespect your mistic earth worshipping ..its up to you what you beieve in ..all i know is i am very happy the big man gives me my food and needs ...no delays ,when you come over come and meet me as did snake and crane and few others ,I am more than want you read here and a perfect gentlmen ,bring you man and son ,I will give you more of an insite into my projects and work , I don’t disagree with your beliefs ..what I said is I believe in god ,I achieved so many things and he gives me strength ,I also read the bible ,the Koran and I speak mandarin and Cantonese ,whilst also studying the Chinese culture ….sorry mate no time for mother earth belief systems ,yes she is ill … no time for reiki etc …I love your posts but don’t be nice to no one …hit them hard ,tell them the truth …you came on the forum shooting like Rambo …now you are more calm
To TRNC .. I will never respect ,not treat you as my equal .You stole my land ,you used brutality and over kill to declare your owns sectors ,your army and your culture are one ,you rule by fear and intimidation, by reading attaturks notes and his works I know you well …I trust you note .. You point fingers at others, yet you fear to look in the mirror, like a scorn child you point your finger at the other child when told off .
ON THIS FORUM,I HAVE SOMETIMES TAKEN BOTH LINES OF EVERY ARGUMENT ,I HAVE POSTED ANTI BRITISH COMMENTS,ANTI GREEK TURKISH ,ETC ...I WANTED TO SEE YOU COME OUT BLAZING ...YET THE ONLY THING I NOTE IS THAT YOU ALL BLAME SOMEONE ELSE .GREECE,TURKEY,UK ,U.S. YEAH THEY DID PULL THE PUPPET STRINGS AND IN SOME WAYS STILL DO ..BUT ITS YOU ,YOUR PEOPLE WHO LIT THE FIRES ..YOU BURNT DOWN ROME ,.WAKE UP AND SAY SORRY
I WARN YOU ALL BOTH THE U.N AND U.S RESPECTS NEITHER COMMUNITY AND IS GROWING WEARY OF YOUR ARGUMENTS ,ACCEPT MY SOLUTION BEFORE EVEN THAT IS GONE
I leave you all with this … I don’t want any of you to respect me ,I don’t know you ,I don’t care for most of you ..i have worked my nuts off .at 36 I am retired , I am studying and I teach both sports combat and modern military combativies, I am happy ,I don’t bother anyone ,yet I am well know as a good man ,I treat everyone as my equal and I help everyone from the Pakistani (I hate the way foreign domestic slaves are treated ) to old people ,that is how I was brought up.
I am hesitate to say more ,but a wise Israeli man once said …a man who is strong has many friends ,he will have even more allies than most for even those who fear him ,will respect him and will agree with him to defend the peace in their lives .
I believe that I am a good man ,I help many people ,I have many interests and my hands are on many projects , I ask for nothing more than peace ,but should I see a issue that will disturb that peace I will act ..the solution to our issues is simple yet difficult to administer ,many will counter argue ,few will see the true solution
We approach difficult times for all …it is up to us to look into the mirror and see both sides of the argument …it is even harder to accept the truth .that perhaps our cultures do not co exist peacefully at a level we would appreciate
True debate will produce the negatives and pros ….time will tell ….
I salute you all and wish you all well ….even daemon ..the gay weirdo
to the Turks.
