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[growuptcs]

Any body can read right through your lines VP. Well, I mean anyone educated outside Turkey.

[Viewpoint]

Any body can read right through your lines VP. Well, I mean anyone educated outside Turkey.

Prey tell all.....what do you read through the lines???

[growuptcs]

Your lying misery.

[Viewpoint]

Your lying misery.

That all? thought you had something clever to say but ho no that would be out of character woudlnt it.

[growuptcs]

The reality to your mindset is disgusting for fellow human beings

[Viewpoint]

The reality to your mindset is disgusting for fellow human beings

Could you try and go half way to explaining why?

[miltiades]

How about Cypriots owning 100% of Cyprus , let those motherland knicker sniffers push off to join their beloved brothers and sisters in Turkey and Greece. Our island is 100% ours so hands off foreigners , VP included !!!

Its the people here on the island that are the problem, your philosophy is to trade the idea that we are all Cypriots knowing full well and in the comfort that 80% of the population are GCs and we are the ones that will suffer and left to the mercy of a GC administration where we will be second class citizens like at Ledra Palace Crossing TC to the left. You are either very naive to what dangers you wish to drag TCs into or alternatively very underhanded in trying to make some TCs feel they would be treated as equals by a GC administration in their own country.

I'm a G/C who considers my ethnicity to be Cypriot. I consider that I have a lot more in common and feel closer to my fellow Cypriots be it T/Cs G/Cs Armenians or any other Cypriot , to a foreign nation like Greece or Turkey. Cant you see that only by embracing our true identity we can become one nation, why do you keep on about majorities and minorities. The Cypriots in the UK are a minority , and so are the hundreds of other ethnicities but you dont hear them constantly bemoaning the fact that they are NOT the majority.You can not change demographics but you can change attitudes . Many on this forum know me personally and all see my views are genuine , regardless whether in agreement or not .

[Viewpoint]

How about Cypriots owning 100% of Cyprus , let those motherland knicker sniffers push off to join their beloved brothers and sisters in Turkey and Greece. Our island is 100% ours so hands off foreigners , VP included !!!

Its the people here on the island that are the problem, your philosophy is to trade the idea that we are all Cypriots knowing full well and in the comfort that 80% of the population are GCs and we are the ones that will suffer and left to the mercy of a GC administration where we will be second class citizens like at Ledra Palace Crossing TC to the left. You are either very naive to what dangers you wish to drag TCs into or alternatively very underhanded in trying to make some TCs feel they would be treated as equals by a GC administration in their own country.

I'm a G/C who considers my ethnicity to be Cypriot. I consider that I have a lot more in common and feel closer to my fellow Cypriots be it T/Cs G/Cs Armenians or any other Cypriot , to a foreign nation like Greece or Turkey. Cant you see that only by embracing our true identity we can become one nation, why do you keep on about majorities and minorities. The Cypriots in the UK are a minority , and so are the hundreds of other ethnicities but you dont hear them constantly bemoaning the fact that they are NOT the majority.You can not change demographics but you can change attitudes . Many on this forum know me personally and all see my views are genuine , regardless whether in agreement or not .

Are those minorities in the UK indigenous? did they ever rule the UK? do they have a partnership agreement like ours eg 1960, did they go though our history? NO.

Cyprus is totally different to the minorities in the UK, you and people like you chose to go live there by their rules, here we both want to rule but the mistrust that GCs will use their numerical advantage to create an environment where TCs are phased out is our fear and GC viewpoints reconfirm this day in day out. They have done nothing to bring the 2 communities together and quash these beliefs. Can you honestly tell me why?

[Piratis]

Are those minorities in the UK indigenous?

you are not either. Many of the minorities in the UK existed long before the Ottoman Turkish invadors decided to name themselves "Turkish Cypriot community". Furthermore in democratic countries being indigenous is irrelevant. As long as you have the citizenship you are equal citizen with everybody else.

did they ever rule the UK?

Thats a plus for them and a negative for you. Because you could force your way in the 16th century it doesn't mean you can do the same today, it is not the middle ages now.

do they have a partnership agreement like ours eg 1960

We do not have any "partnership" agreement. Unless you call an agreement that specifies that a Turkish Cypriot should never be allowed to be the president a "partnership" agreement. But if you want to use the "partnership" metaphore, then according to those agreements your minority would appropriately be the "minor partner". But hey, if you want that agreement no problem from our side. It is you that insist violating it.

did they go though our history?

Nothing was that special about our history. Look elsewhere and you will find tons of multi-ethnic countries where they had conflicts between them, way bloodier also. Furthermore, history is not relevant:

These elements define the fundamental elements of all modern democracies, no matter how varied in history, culture, and economy. Despite their enormous differences as nations and societies, the essential elements of constitutional government--majority rule coupled with individual and minority rights, and the rule of law--can be found in Canada and Costa Rica, France and Botswana, Japan and India.

http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/w ... hatdm2.htm

So cut the excuses. Your minority is just like every other. The problem we have in Cyprus is that Turkey is violating the sovereignty of our country and your minority is siding with the enemy.

[denizaksulu]

How about Cypriots owning 100% of Cyprus , let those motherland knicker sniffers push off to join their beloved brothers and sisters in Turkey and Greece. Our island is 100% ours so hands off foreigners , VP included !!!

Its the people here on the island that are the problem, your philosophy is to trade the idea that we are all Cypriots knowing full well and in the comfort that 80% of the population are GCs and we are the ones that will suffer and left to the mercy of a GC administration where we will be second class citizens like at Ledra Palace Crossing TC to the left. You are either very naive to what dangers you wish to drag TCs into or alternatively very underhanded in trying to make some TCs feel they would be treated as equals by a GC administration in their own country.

I'm a G/C who considers my ethnicity to be Cypriot. I consider that I have a lot more in common and feel closer to my fellow Cypriots be it T/Cs G/Cs Armenians or any other Cypriot , to a foreign nation like Greece or Turkey. Cant you see that only by embracing our true identity we can become one nation, why do you keep on about majorities and minorities. The Cypriots in the UK are a minority , and so are the hundreds of other ethnicities but you dont hear them constantly bemoaning the fact that they are NOT the majority.You can not change demographics but you can change attitudes . Many on this forum know me personally and all see my views are genuine , regardless whether in agreement or not .

Milti, how can we not mention majorities and minorities when its your GC brothers who embark on a mission to emphasise that non-stop. Cant you see its driving even the moderates away from unification? Its your GC 'brothers' you need to convince.
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