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[miltiades]

EPSILO contradicts himself once again !!!
"""""""If someone ask you to sign an authorization to kill him he will not sign of course!!!This what Gcs did-they did not sign their disappearance from Cyprus .""""
You are signing the disappearance of Cyprus mate with your nonsense """GREEK REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS"""
If you had any brain you would recognise the fact that the International community , all of it , sees Cyprus as an independent nation NOT GREEK REPUBLIC "

[observer]

Wasn't it only a few months ago that the UN Sec General spoke about 'the Greek Cypriot Government"? A slip of the tongue, but a revelation of what he thinks inside.

Believe me, the rest of the world may formally recognise you as the government of Cyprus, but you are thought of as the Greek-Cypriot government. Not unreasonable, since that is what you are.

[EPSILON]

EPSILO contradicts himself once again !!!
"""""""If someone ask you to sign an authorization to kill him he will not sign of course!!!This what Gcs did-they did not sign their disappearance from Cyprus .""""
You are signing the disappearance of Cyprus mate with your nonsense """GREEK REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS"""
If you had any brain you would recognise the fact that the International community , all of it , sees Cyprus as an independent nation NOT GREEK REPUBLIC "

Miltiades, I told you many times.I do not care about your personal ideas and i requested you (only you out of all members to not responce to my posts.)

We understand it you hate Greeks because someone from mainland Greece did something on your body several years ago. this was cleared two three months ago.No need to repeat it.We the rest remain Greeks-you be whatever you want

[EPSILON]

EPSILO contradicts himself once again !!!
"""""""If someone ask you to sign an authorization to kill him he will not sign of course!!!This what Gcs did-they did not sign their disappearance from Cyprus .""""
You are signing the disappearance of Cyprus mate with your nonsense """GREEK REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS"""
If you had any brain you would recognise the fact that the International community , all of it , sees Cyprus as an independent nation NOT GREEK REPUBLIC "

They see it as banania of Turkey not as indepedent Nation.This what they have in mind when prposing solution plans and you are a fan of them

[observer]

EPSILON wrote:

My Cyprus political history is weak, but the only time I think the GCs accepted something on the basis that it was to remove an invader (British) with the notion that they could later modify the agreements to improve matters was in 1960.

This might be why it was so important to say NO to the Annan plan . . precisely so that we didn't repeat history by accepting it for the wrong reasons and THEN look to change details.

1960 – London Agreement. GCs start to undermine it.

1963 – GCs impatient with progress physically attack TCs and drive TCs from official appointments. GCs agree to UN peacekeeper presence yet continue to drive TCs into enclaves and deprive them of any economic opportunities.

1974 – GC coup to achieve enosis. Post Turkish involvement Zurich agreement between Denktas and Klerides for BBF. Makarios rips it up on his return.

2004 – If mikkie 2’s policy were followed, say yes to A plan then start challenging it in the courts! And on past experience through the gun too.


Epsilon, I so agree with the second paragraph of yours that I have quoted.

[miltiades]

EPSILO contradicts himself once again !!!
"""""""If someone ask you to sign an authorization to kill him he will not sign of course!!!This what Gcs did-they did not sign their disappearance from Cyprus .""""
You are signing the disappearance of Cyprus mate with your nonsense """GREEK REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS"""
If you had any brain you would recognise the fact that the International community , all of it , sees Cyprus as an independent nation NOT GREEK REPUBLIC "

Miltiades, I told you many times.I do not care about your personal ideas and i requested you (only you out of all members to not responce to my posts.)

We understand it you hate Greeks because someone from mainland Greece did something on your body several years ago. this was cleared two three months ago.No need to repeat it.We the rest remain Greeks-you be whatever you want

In the words of my Cypriot grandfather Assiktir malaka !!!!

[phoenix]

EPSILON wrote:

My Cyprus political history is weak, but the only time I think the GCs accepted something on the basis that it was to remove an invader (British) with the notion that they could later modify the agreements to improve matters was in 1960.

This might be why it was so important to say NO to the Annan plan . . precisely so that we didn't repeat history by accepting it for the wrong reasons and THEN look to change details.

1960 – London Agreement. GCs start to undermine it.

1963 – GCs impatient with progress physically attack TCs and drive TCs from official appointments. GCs agree to UN peacekeeper presence yet continue to drive TCs into enclaves and deprive them of any economic opportunities.

1974 – GC coup to achieve enosis. Post Turkish involvement Zurich agreement between Denktas and Klerides for BBF. Makarios rips it up on his return.

2004 – If mikkie 2’s policy were followed, say yes to A plan then start challenging it in the courts! And on past experience through the gun too.


Epsilon, I so agree with the second paragraph of yours that I have quoted.

Observer by name BUT not by actions!

If you care to go back to the original source for your "quote" then you may get a response.

However, from what I can see you have written so far you are speculating towards absurdity.

[observer]

Sorry Phoenix.

1960, 1963, 1974 history (of which I acknowledge there is more than one version).
2004 mikkie2's wish, that the GCs had voted for the A Plan then contested it in the European Courts.

No speculation on my parts, save for the liklihood that guns would come into use if mikkie2's wish had been carried out. On past history I don't think that too fantastic.

[phoenix]

:oops:

Sorry Pheonix.

1960, 1963, 1974 history (of which I acknowledge there is more than one version).
2004 mikkie2's wish, that the GCs had voted for the A Plan then contested it in the European Courts.

No speculation on my parts, save for the liklihood that guns would come into use if mikkie2's wish had been carried out. On past history I don't think that too fantastic.

That's okay observer . . . you were distracted by content.

I think such speculation is harmful because you are judging actions from your own expectations. Cyprus is progressive and a stern follower of International Laws . . . and changes have always been sought through diplomatic means, let alone now in the 21st Century.

It's the nature of the resistance they encounter and the steps they have had to take to protect themselves that affects your perception . . . but from what I know Cyprus has NEVER gone on the offensive.

[Piratis]

Piratis, I entirely agree with your first paragraph. Unfortunately, in a unified state solution I believe that GCs would use their numerical superiorty to economically attack, if not physically attack TCs.I don't think that your current preident's views have changed much since he co-wrote the Akritas Plan, and GCs keep voting for him and people like him. The safeguards that are required were agreed years ago by Klerides and Denktas - a Bicommunal, Bizonal Federation.

As for your second paragraph, just more of the usual "blame the world for my problems, as it's easier than examining my actions".

I didn't blame "the world". I blame those that send troops to my island to kill us, oppress us, violate our rights and then take decisions and force them on us instead of allowing us to take them. (e.g. writing the constitution of our country)
Any conflicts that we had in the past with TCs were exactly because they collaborated with the British and the Turks to fight against us and our rights.
Once TCs will accept democracy and equality among all citizens without discriminations, then there will be no conflicts between the "two sides" since in that case there will be just one side of equal Cypriots, and not two conflicting ones with separate interests and aims.

This is the only way for peace. Anything else is just part of the problem.