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[ARMENIAN CYPRIOT]

Macedonians are a free people, and like all free nations they are free to chose their name and their national symbols free from any external interference.

PS: There are no Pomaks in Macedonia. The Slavic-speaking Muslims of Macedonia are divided into two major categories - the Torbeshi and the Bosniaks. Pomaks inhabit mostly the Rhodop region along the Greek - Bulgarian border.

If thats the case, they should name there country New York and put in there constituition all of greater New York needs to be liberated I am sure the USA would have loved that. PS BJ maybe you should do some research on how they lack human rights towards Bulgarians,, oh thats right you dont care since you arent a real Bulgarian. I guess it was you not knowing that they claimed territory from Bulgaria that gave it away. PS BJ You are far from an expert on FYROM, since you didnt even know they claimed territory of the country you live in.

[bg_turk]

Yeah they may even chose to call themselves Coca-Cola, and have the red -white coke flag.
You are not beingn serious are you?

Unlike Coca-Cola, Macedonia is not a trademark, let alone a Greek one.

Chosing other people's historical names and symbols is called plagiarism, and it portrays cheap people who take pride on someone else's glory, as if it was theirs.

And that I suppose also applies to you too. Taking pride in the achievements of man who lived thousands of years before you were born based merely on an "uninterrupted bloodline" that only your kind has, to me seems to be the characteristic of a very petty people.

[Nikitas]

BG

No one has referred to uninterrupted blood lines. FYROM has used a figure of Greek history and has willingly perverted historical facts to create unilateral claims on its neighbors, Greece and Bulgaria. It recently renamed its main airport Alexander the Great, it uses the symbol of Vergina as its flag, Vergina is two hundred kilometers south of the border into Greek territory.

To understand the situation think of Bulgaria suddenly renaming its main airport Suleiman the Magnificent and saying that its natural capital is Erzerum, it would piss you off too I think. The only thing they are asked to do is to use a defining adjective for their country, like Slav Macedonia or New Macedonia, and stop the myth that their natural territory extends half way to Athens. The demands are not unreasonable.

[alexISS]

And that I suppose also applies to you too. Taking pride in the achievements of man who lived thousands of years before you were born based merely on an "uninterrupted bloodline" that only your kind has, to me seems to be the characteristic of a very petty people.

So, taking pride in the achievements of a historical figure is the characteristic of petty people... Well look no further than Turkey, you'll find statues, posters, wall paintings, newspaper frontpages, t-shirts, even tattooes of Kemal Ataturk everywhere you look. Are the Turks petty people according to your definition?

[alexISS]

Regarding the land claims of FYROM over Greece, this is a bank note that was printed after the breakup of Yugoslavia, which was, unfortunately for Greece, withdrawn



A depiction of Thessaloniki, the capital city of (Greek) Macedonia, whose name the so-called descendants of the ancient Macedonians cannot even pronounce

[bg_turk]

No one has referred to uninterrupted blood lines. FYROM has used a figure of Greek history and has willingly perverted historical facts to create unilateral claims on its neighbors, Greece and Bulgaria.

I really don't think Alexander the Great is a figure of greek history, he is a figure of world history.

It recently renamed its main airport Alexander the Great, it uses the symbol of Vergina as its flag, Vergina is two hundred kilometers south of the border into Greek territory.

I would imagine many aiports are named after Alexander the Great. Besides using national symbols that are not necessarily located in one's territories is not that much of a unique and extraordinary thing. For example, Armenians also use as their symbol the mountain Ararat which is much further into Turkish territory.

To understand the situation think of Bulgaria suddenly renaming its main airport Suleiman the Magnificent and saying that its natural capital is Erzerum, it would piss you off too I think.

I can only wish that Bulgaria would call its main aiport Suleyman the Magnificent. Maybe Greece should do it too.

The demands are not unreasonable.

Demanding a change in the constitutional name of a country and its national symbols is not merely unreasonable, it is in fact the most grotesque interference imaginable in its internal matters.

[bg_turk]

So, taking pride in the achievements of a historical figure is the characteristic of petty people... Well look no further than Turkey, you'll find statues, posters, wall paintings, newspaper frontpages, t-shirts, even tattooes of Kemal Ataturk everywhere you look. Are the Turks petty people according to your definition?

Of course those that are proud of Ataturk and exclude others from cherishing his achievements are petty individuals. But in general, I do not think you are correct in characterizing the relationship between Turks and Atatürk as that of a matter of pride. I would rather describe it as gratitude, gratitude by the Turkish people towards Ataturk for establishing the Turkish Republic. Ataturk fought for and is the symbol of Turkish nationhood, and that is why Turkish patriotism is centered around the personal cult of that single figure. There does not exist a similar relationship between the Christian nation of Greece today and Alexander who was a paegan emperor from thousands of years ago.

[ARMENIAN CYPRIOT]

No one has referred to uninterrupted blood lines. FYROM has used a figure of Greek history and has willingly perverted historical facts to create unilateral claims on its neighbors, Greece and Bulgaria.

I really don't think Alexander the Great is a figure of greek history, he is a figure of world history.

It recently renamed its main airport Alexander the Great, it uses the symbol of Vergina as its flag, Vergina is two hundred kilometers south of the border into Greek territory.

I would imagine many aiports are named after Alexander the Great. Besides using national symbols that are not necessarily located in one's territories is not that much of a unique and extraordinary thing. For example, Armenians also use as their symbol the mountain Ararat which is much further into Turkish territory.

To understand the situation think of Bulgaria suddenly renaming its main airport Suleiman the Magnificent and saying that its natural capital is Erzerum, it would piss you off too I think.

I can only wish that Bulgaria would call its main aiport Suleyman the Magnificent. Maybe Greece should do it too.

The demands are not unreasonable.

Demanding a change in the constitutional name of a country and its national symbols is not merely unreasonable, it is in fact the most grotesque interference imaginable in its internal matters.

Armenians lived in the Mt Ararat region for over 3000 years. Fyrom has no connection with Alexander the Great. Why would they have a tower that is within Thessaloniki on there money??

[Pyrpolizer]

Yeah they may even chose to call themselves Coca-Cola, and have the red -white coke flag.
You are not beingn serious are you?

Unlike Coca-Cola, Macedonia is not a trademark, let alone a Greek one. 1

Chosing other people's historical names and symbols is called plagiarism, and it portrays cheap people who take pride on someone else's glory, as if it was theirs.

And that I suppose also applies to you too. Taking pride in the achievements of man who lived thousands of years before you were born based merely on an "uninterrupted bloodline" that only your kind has, to me seems to be the characteristic of a very petty people. 2

1.Toponymys are registered in the UN. These include names of Countries/districts/villages/hills/rivers, everything.

2. Alexander was Greek. Period. The same way Shakespeare was English.

[Pyrpolizer]

No one has referred to uninterrupted blood lines. FYROM has used a figure of Greek history and has willingly perverted historical facts to create unilateral claims on its neighbors, Greece and Bulgaria.

I really don't think Alexander the Great is a figure of greek history, he is a figure of world history. 3

It recently renamed its main airport Alexander the Great, it uses the symbol of Vergina as its flag, Vergina is two hundred kilometers south of the border into Greek territory.

I would imagine many aiports are named after Alexander the Great. Besides using national symbols that are not necessarily located in one's territories is not that much of a unique and extraordinary thing. For example, Armenians also use as their symbol the mountain Ararat which is much further into Turkish territory.

To understand the situation think of Bulgaria suddenly renaming its main airport Suleiman the Magnificent and saying that its natural capital is Erzerum, it would piss you off too I think.

I can only wish that Bulgaria would call its main aiport Suleyman the Magnificent. Maybe Greece should do it too.

The demands are not unreasonable.

Demanding a change in the constitutional name of a country and its national symbols is not merely unreasonable, it is in fact the most grotesque interference imaginable in its internal matters.

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Another clueless guy.
Tell me what the name Alexandros means then. Tell me what the name of his father Philippos means. (notice the double p) Tell me what the name of his horse Vukefalas means. Tell me what the name of his mother Olymbias means. Chose Bulgarian, Turkish, Fyrom, language anything you like except Greek. You will never get it.

They are pure Greek names, and they all have specific meanings. Because they were all GREEKS. Period.

Tell me what kind of Education Alexander got? Tell me why Aristotle was his teacher?

Here take a quiz:In what language was Aristotle teaching Alexander?

1)English
2)Fyrom
3)Bulgatian
4)Turkish (a 700 word language back then by 1400 AD)
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5)Greek