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[denizaksulu]

Get Real! is correct.

It is not something that happened once 4 centuries years ago. The crimes that the Turks commit against us are constant since then. In fact since the Turks first invaded our island they have been killing GCs by the 10000s, and violating our rights for the 340 out of the 436 years they exist on this island, including the last 33+ years where they killed 1000s and ethnically cleansed 100s of thousands.

And then they try to present themselves as the victims because they lost, according to them, 800 people over a past decade, even if in that same decade they have also killed 100s of Greek Cypriots!

But we all know why they do this. Because they are trying to find excuses to commit even more crimes against us.

Yes because wee TCs the numerical minority like to commit crimes against the ho so virgin GCs who do nothing wrong but are always victimized, cut the crap Piratis you fucked up big time and now you are paying the price.

I talk with facts VP, facts you can not deny.
Your minority is nothing more than the extension of Turkey in Cyprus, and thats what you have always been.
Small Cyprus have been victimized over and over by the Turks and now you are trying to find lame excuses to commit yet more crimes against us.

You prat is,

Lets say we did crimes that you allege we commited (ha ha haa), and you are responding with crimes against us, and your verdict is two wrongs make one right?

[Viewpoint]

Get Real! is correct.

It is not something that happened once 4 centuries years ago. The crimes that the Turks commit against us are constant since then. In fact since the Turks first invaded our island they have been killing GCs by the 10000s, and violating our rights for the 340 out of the 436 years they exist on this island, including the last 33+ years where they killed 1000s and ethnically cleansed 100s of thousands.

And then they try to present themselves as the victims because they lost, according to them, 800 people over a past decade, even if in that same decade they have also killed 100s of Greek Cypriots!

But we all know why they do this. Because they are trying to find excuses to commit even more crimes against us.

Yes because wee TCs the numerical minority like to commit crimes against the ho so virgin GCs who do nothing wrong but are always victimized, cut the crap Piratis you fucked up big time and now you are paying the price.

I talk with facts VP, facts you can not deny.
Your minority is nothing more than the extension of Turkey in Cyprus, and thats what you have always been.
Small Cyprus have been victimized over and over by the Turks and now you are trying to find lame excuses to commit yet more crimes against us.

We are no different from the Americans or the Australians who arrived much later than those that were already there, thats make no difference the diference is we belong here and do not want to be ruled purely by GCs, we are all for sharing but on a basis where you cannot force me to so anythign against my will and where I have an effective say in my own future.

The criminal is yourself for not commiting to an "RoC" where we were part of that mosiac, you wanted a GC state run by GCs so you stole ours and you have the nerve to still complain and want more. Not only arrogant but also very very greedy, if nobody has told you, you have your share live with it.

[Piratis]

They don't see us as Cypriots but as Turks and the more they see us as that the more we want to become that.

It is the opposite: You decided to be Turks, and therefore thats how we see you. Aren't you who keep saying that in Cyprus there are two separate "peoples"? And tell me what you called your pseudo state? the "Turkish republic of northern Cyprus" maybe?

Zan, Cypriots existed waaaaaay before you set your foot on this island. If you wanted you could integrate and became Cypriots as well. However you choose to be "separate people" and the extension of Turkey in Cyprus.

We are always ready to accept you and help you to integrate and become equal Cypriot citizens if you wish. However it is obvious that your wish is not to integrate with Cypriots, but to integrate with mainland Turks that you import by the 10s of thousands, so you will finally loose even those last drops of Cypriotness that is left in you.

[Piratis]

You prat is,

Lets say we did crimes that you allege we commited (ha ha haa), and you are responding with crimes against us, and your verdict is two wrongs make one right?
Drop dead. You keep the south and we keep the north. Squirm you rat. End of story.

Two wrongs?
You have made 10000s of wrongs against us. Then all we wanted was to set things right. To decide the destiny of our own island in a democratic way without any foreigners imposing their will on us. Was that wrong?

Because you didn't accept what was right and just, we had a conflict. You killed some 100s of ours and we killed some 100s of yours. Overall a drop in the ocean compared to the 10000s of Greek Cypriots you have been killing almost non stop since the day you set your foot on our island and us recently as 1974.

And today after your 100000 of wrongs against us, you are looking at that drop in the ocean wrong that we did, in a period where you have wronged us as well, and you are trying to use it as an excuse for even more crimes against us?

Why don't you finally accept democracy and human rights for all?? The reason you do not accept this today is the reason you never accepted it. Because you want to use the big guns of Turkey in order to gain on our loss land and power that does not belong to you.

[Viewpoint]

They don't see us as Cypriots but as Turks and the more they see us as that the more we want to become that.

It is the opposite: You decided to be Turks, and therefore thats how we see you. Aren't you who keep saying that in Cyprus there are two separate "peoples"? And tell me what you called your pseudo state? the "Turkish republic of northern Cyprus" maybe?

Zan, Cypriots existed waaaaaay before you set your foot on this island. If you wanted you could integrate and became Cypriots as well. However you choose to be "separate people" and the extension of Turkey in Cyprus.

We are always ready to accept you and help you to integrate and become equal Cypriot citizens if you wish. However it is obvious that your wish is not to integrate with Cypriots, but to integrate with mainland Turks that you import by the 10s of thousands, so you will finally loose even those last drops of Cypriotness that is left in you.

In the age of mass world globalisation these arguements are Cypriotism card is now defuncted, the real issue is we are both owners and partners of this island how do we peacefully coexsist/share it without forcing each other to do things against our will?

[observer]

It is the opposite: You decided to be Turks, and therefore thats how we see you

How quickly you forget. It's only 3 years ago that 65% of us voted to be Cypriots. 75% of GCs voted to deny us that. Only the EU has forced you to oopen the door a little.

[denizaksulu]

You prat is,

Lets say we did crimes that you allege we commited (ha ha haa), and you are responding with crimes against us, and your verdict is two wrongs make one right?
Drop dead. You keep the south and we keep the north. Squirm you rat. End of story.

Two wrongs?
You have made 10000s of wrongs against us. Then all we wanted was to set things right. To decide the destiny of our own island in a democratic way without any foreigners imposing their will on us. Was that wrong?

Because you didn't accept what was right and just, we had a conflict. You killed some 100s of ours and we killed some 100s of yours. Overall a drop in the ocean compared to the 10000s of Greek Cypriots you have been killing almost non stop since the day you set your foot on our island and us recently as 1974.

And today after your 100000 of wrongs against us, you are looking at that drop in the ocean wrong that we did, in a period where you have wronged us as well, and you are trying to use it as an excuse for even more crimes against us?

Why don't you finally accept democracy and human rights for all?? The reason you do not accept this today is the reason you never accepted it. Because you want to use the big guns of Turkey in order to gain on our loss land and power that does not belong to you.

You are a PRATus MAXIMUS. Till you recognise us as Cypriots you will always be a prat.

[Piratis]

It is the opposite: You decided to be Turks, and therefore thats how we see you

How quickly you forget. Three years ago 65% of us voted to be Cypriots. 75% of GCs voted to deny us. Only the Eu has forced GCs to open the door a little.

I don't rember such vote. What I remember was a partition plan that would grand you our land, and of course you voted yes and we voted no for it.

Here is what your own Mehmet Ali Birand said about that plan:

Before the vote on the Annan plan, I personally believed the Turkish Cypriots were faced with a historic opportunity and did everything I could to ensure that the plan was a success. I believed that, with the plan, the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (KKTC) would be able to stand on its own two feet. The KKTC would enter the European Union with Greek Cyprus and consequently, the Cyprus issue would no longer be an obstacle to Turkey's EU aspirations. I am still of the same opinion.

Mehmet Ali Birand

So it was the "partition+ plan" for you:
Partition + EU + no Cyprus obstacle for the Turkish accession in EU.

[Viewpoint]

You prat is,

Lets say we did crimes that you allege we commited (ha ha haa), and you are responding with crimes against us, and your verdict is two wrongs make one right?
Drop dead. You keep the south and we keep the north. Squirm you rat. End of story.

Two wrongs?
You have made 10000s of wrongs against us. Then all we wanted was to set things right. To decide the destiny of our own island in a democratic way without any foreigners imposing their will on us. Was that wrong?

Because you didn't accept what was right and just, we had a conflict. You killed some 100s of ours and we killed some 100s of yours. Overall a drop in the ocean compared to the 10000s of Greek Cypriots you have been killing almost non stop since the day you set your foot on our island and us recently as 1974.

And today after your 100000 of wrongs against us, you are looking at that drop in the ocean wrong that we did, in a period where you have wronged us as well, and you are trying to use it as an excuse for even more crimes against us?

Why don't you finally accept democracy and human rights for all?? The reason you do not accept this today is the reason you never accepted it. Because you want to use the big guns of Turkey in order to gain on our loss land and power that does not belong to you.

The only experience we had leads us not to trust your brand "human right for all" as it always seems to favor the GCs and discriminate against TCs. Thats why safeguards are vital to counteract and attempt to dominate or exploit the minority, giving us a equal opportunity to be elected and have input into our futures. Otherwise the 80% will ensure we are once again excluded and hey presto 1963 all over again.

[Piratis]

You are a PRATus MAXIMUS. Till you recognise us as Cypriots you will always be a prat.

It is not up to me to recognize you as anything.

It is up to you to be Cypriots or not. A TC that considers as his country the "Turkish republic of northern Cyprus" he declares himself as non-Cypriot. He declares himself to be a citizen of some "Turkish Republic" which just happens to be illegally established in Cyprus on land stolen from the Cypriots.

Not all TCs are like that of course, but it appears that the majority is.