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Postby MR-from-NG » Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:32 am

Get Real! wrote:
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phoenix wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:İnternational laws also says we were equal partner . without our vote u shouldn't do anything ............... How come without our votes u are using everything against us . İsolating us from world .Where is the international laws ?

The 1960's agreements, and not international law, is where "equal partners" is mentioned once but not defined and is the actual Cypriot constitution the Turkish Cypriot leadership foolishly ABANDONED in 1963 as instructed by Turkey. This abandonment was further reinforced in 1983 with the declaration of the still unrecognized "TRNC".

What makes you think you can abandon a partnership, steal 37% of its assets, setup a new bogus entity using those stolen assets, and still have rights in the decision-making of that partnership even though an international court has condemned your actions and issued an order demanding that all assets be returned?


Excellent interpretation!


That's your interpretation. Do you think the rest of the world actually believe your lies that TCs abandoned office in 63? You people are either really brainwashed or you come on the forum just to wind us TCs up.

If I spend 20-30 minutes right now going through all my stuff to find and post reputable evidence that confirms the abandonment what will you do for me in return MR-from-NG because I'd hate to waste my time just because you poked without knowing....


You'd be wasting your time GR. I have my father to thank for the true events of that era.

No disrespect my friend but your version of events are a little different to my version.

This is the question, can we stop all this crap and get down to serious business to find a solution? Can you put your hand on heart and say your administration is doing this? Are my people really doing whats expected of them for a solution? The answer is NO. So in essence we are all fucked and will get fucked as long as the same puppets are in power.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:23 am

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Get Real! wrote:If I spend 20-30 minutes right now going through all my stuff to find and post reputable evidence that confirms the abandonment what will you do for me in return MR-from-NG because I'd hate to waste my time just because you poked without knowing....


You'd be wasting your time GR. I have my father to thank for the true events of that era.

Yes, there seems to be a lot of... "My father said..." and "My mother said...", and my "Uncle's cousin's brother said..." going on in the Turkish Cypriot community!

Never mind recorded historical evidence just go by rumors! :roll:

How wise!
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:22 pm

Get Real! wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:If I spend 20-30 minutes right now going through all my stuff to find and post reputable evidence that confirms the abandonment what will you do for me in return MR-from-NG because I'd hate to waste my time just because you poked without knowing....


You'd be wasting your time GR. I have my father to thank for the true events of that era.

Yes, there seems to be a lot of... "My father said..." and "My mother said...", and my "Uncle's cousin's brother said..." going on in the Turkish Cypriot community!

Never mind recorded historical evidence just go by rumors! :roll:

How wise!



Very well said GR. My aunts husbands brothers' wife said GCs are lovely people. I will ignore her and make up my own mind. :roll:
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Postby zan » Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:47 am

Get Real! wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:If I spend 20-30 minutes right now going through all my stuff to find and post reputable evidence that confirms the abandonment what will you do for me in return MR-from-NG because I'd hate to waste my time just because you poked without knowing....


You'd be wasting your time GR. I have my father to thank for the true events of that era.

Yes, there seems to be a lot of... "My father said..." and "My mother said...", and my "Uncle's cousin's brother said..." going on in the Turkish Cypriot community!

Never mind recorded historical evidence just go by rumors! :roll:

How wise!



Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Recorded history "RoC" style and personal experiences............That's a hard one to chose from... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby phoenix » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:27 pm

This is one of those days that I feel compelled to repeat the title of this thread over and over . . . .

Sometimes it's: Bloody Turks! :roll:

Other days it's: Bloody Turks! :shock:

Then again it's Bloody Turks! :evil:

But today it is Bloody Turks! :( :cry: . . . . as we learn of the news of their terminally, devastating effects on my compatriots.

How many of my compatriots, both Cypriots and Greek have they killed in the past? How many do they continue to make suffer today, and die at their hands?

There are no reasons, no excuses for any more of my Cypriot compatriots to perish in their midst . . . for the Turks should NOT be here.

They have proved time and again they do not want to assimilate, nor to build the RoC up as a happy place. They want to divide and devastate.

Once again I plead, go away Turks and leave us with the remnants of our country and people.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:31 pm

Growing Cucumbers - advice on how to grow Cucumbers
Cucumbers are straight forward to grow and grow up they will as they are a climbing vine.

They are a member of the cucurbitaceae family which includes melons and squashes and as such like a warm well drained soil.

Cucumbers can be eaten fresh or they can be pickled. Cucumbers that are eaten fresh are known as Slicing varieties and Cucumbers that are pickled are known as pickling varieties.

Cucumbers contain nutrients that are especially beneficial to our skin, hair and nails.

Preparation
Dig a fair amount of organic compost into the soil. The soil should be turned over down to about a spades depth.

Sowing
You can start your plants off indoors by sowing in biodegradeable seedling pots that will ensure roots are not damaged when you plant out the seedlings. Do not plant out before the last frost.

Leave a gap of around 40cm between seedlings. If growing from seed you can group sow 3 seeds in each hole to increase chances of germination success. Seeds should be planted 2.5cm deep.

If you are planting more than one row then rows should be spaced at around 90cm.

Position
Cucumbers need a good amount of sunshine and warmth. They are a green house favourite. Ensure that you have adequate space as Cucumbers can rapidly reach around 6 feet. Where space is limited train the plant against a wall, stake or trellice. They may also spread over the ground if you have the space.

Soil type
A well drained soil is important for cucumbers and so they are often planted in raised beds around 6 inches high. Cucumbers will thrive in a sandy loam soil. Ensure the soil has a good amount of organic matter within it, manure will give the plants the nutrients they require.

Tending
Weed regularly but be careful not to go below a couple of cm's with your hoe as you may damage the root system which will slow down plant growth.

Water the cucumbers well each week if you want them to be juicy and firm! The cucumber fruit itself has a very high water content.

The plant has both male and female flowers and the female flowers give rise to the cucumbers. You can aid pollination and increase the fruit count by using a cotton bud to transfer pollen from the male flowers onto the centre of the female flowers. The female flowers distinguished from the male flowers as the females have a tiny cucumber at their base.

Harvesting
You can harvest the cucumbers when they are a suitable size, this is normally around 50-60 days after planting. The skin should be dark green in colour, do now wait until the cucumbers have turned yellow as this indicates that they are over ripe and their quality of flavour will decline.

Twist the cucumbers off the plant or cut the stalk just above the cucumber tip.

Varieties
Pickling varieties tend to grow to around 7-10 cm long and up to 2.5cm wide. Slicing varieties grow bigger (up to around 35cm) but can still be picked for pickling when they are smaller. The Burpless variety is easy to digest and has a good flavour.
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Postby phoenix » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:36 pm

I rest my case! :roll:
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Postby MR-from-NG » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:40 pm

Secrets of Growing Killer Tomatoes
Tomatoes have always been my favorite garden vegetable to grow and to eat. I have had success with the other standard garden vegetables, such as cucumbers, bell peppers, cauliflower etc. but tomatoes became my specialty over the years.

I start to grow my tomato seeds indoors approximately 5-6 weeks before the last expected frost date. I use a commercially available starting flat that will hold 72 seedlings. I prefer plant the Tomato Park's Whopper Cr Improved, VFFNT Hybrid which can be ordered from Park Seed Co. . This is a large, luscious, disease resistant tomato that I have seen grow to excess of 3lbs.+. It makes for an awesome BLT since a slice of one of these beauties will hang off the toast at least one inch or more all the way around!!!!!

For the potting mixture, I use equal parts of a good quality potting soil and vermiculite that makes the soil light enough so that the seeds will not have difficulty sprouting and growing. I know your probably saying to yourself right now, WOW, 72 tomato plants, I don't need to grow that many, well look at it like this:out of the 72 that you start to grow, some will not develop for whatever reason, and once they are planted, some will die, the birds will get some, the animals will get some and yes, the bugs will get some regardless of how hard your try to keep them out. So out of that 72 plants, you could wind up with just the right number in the end to grow in your garden. Of course it is possible to wind up with 72 very healthy, untouched by animals, disease or bugs, tomato plants, as happened to me one season, then you will have more tomatoes than you can possibly eat, can, sell or give away!!!! But that is a whole 'nother story!!!

I have grown tomatoes in all types of soil, from rocky, hard packed clay to rich dark loam so loose you could push your arm elbow deep into the soil with no effort. It has been my experience that almost any soil will work with most only requiring minor amendments.

If you need to add amendments to your soil to loosen it, I recommend a mixture of aged sawdust and sand in equal parts. The sand can be obtained in bulk from your local concrete company for a small fee or you can buy it in bags from your local hardware store. One note about the sawdust, DO NOT use fresh sawdust, as this is much to hot due to the nitrogen being released during the breakdown process. Tomato plants placed in this sawdust to grow; even with the mix of sand and soil are much too tender to withstand the high concentration of nitrogen.

If fresh sawdust is all that you can obtain, pile it in one corner of your garden and let it age for new season.

Your local sawmill, if you have one close by, should have a good supply of old sawdust on hand that they will let you load up and haul away for free. If you do not have a sawmill or any type of manufacturing facility close by, such as the Ames Co., that makes wooden handles etc. you can check with your local county extension agent and he or she can tell you where you may acquire the sawdust. Speaking of the county extension agent, when you go to consult with the agent, take along some soil samples from different places in your garden and ask that they be tested for the proper nutrients. This is a free service provided by some counties while others may charge a nominal fee, regardless, you can have the results back in just a few days.

Once you have the sawdust and sand, spread equal parts over your garden until it reaches a depth of about one inch or more depending on the type of soil. Too much and the soil will be too loose and the water will drain away to quickly, not enough and the sun will bake it to a hardpan during the dog days of summer.

Work this mixture into your soil as deep as possible using your rotary tiller or the old fashioned way, by using a spading fork or shovel Once this mixture is worked in properly then it is time to consider what type of fertilizer is needed.

Armed with your soil test results, you will have a good indication of what kind of fertilizer is best for your particular garden. In most cases, a good all purpose fertilizer known as Triple 10 or 10-10-10 will do the job very well. Your soil test results will give specifics of any additional nutrients that you may need and should also include coverage rates.

Once you have completed the fertilizing, give your garden a moderate soaking with your sprinkler or hose nozzle to dissolve and distribute the fertilizer through out the soil.

When I begin to set out the tomatoes to grow I have somewhat of a unique approach, I dig the planting hole, approximately 10-12 inches deep with a post hole digger, which also helps to determine the spacing for each plant ( 2-2 half feet apart or about half the length of the handle of your post hole digger) I use the post hole digger for several reasons:

1. Its much easier on your back, you don't have to bend or kneel to dig the hole.

2. The larger and deeper hole means that more of the tomato plant itself can be placed deeper into the ground and the more plant you can actually place in the ground the stronger the plant will be, because every bit of the seedling that is placed underground will develop into the root system, thereby you will have deeper and stronger roots from the very beginning.

3. The loose backfill in the hole allows for the developing root system to get a firm foothold to grow.

After you have gotten all your holes spaced out and dug, go back and sprinkle just a bit of Miracle-Gro into the bottom of each hole then add just a small amount of water to the hole. Gently remove your tomato seedlings from the flat and place it as deep as possible in the hole. I recommend leaving no more than 1 - 2 inches of tomato above ground. Yes, it will take longer for your tomatoes to produce by doing this as compared to setting them out at that same depth they were in the seeding flat, but you will have stronger plants and plants that virtually never need watering because at that depth moisture is pretty much constant unless it is an extremely dry summer. Believe me, if you set your tomatoes out at the flat depth, you will be watering them at least every other day.!!!

The next thing we need to address is the method used to control the sprawling plant. Some people like to place straw down around their tomato plants and let them sprawl across the ground. I believe this opens the door for more pest problems, such as the tomato hornworm. The method I recommend is using concrete reinforcing wire to make your own tomato cages. The wire can be purchased at most any hardware or do it yourself store. The wire has large 6" openings that you can easily pass your hand through when picking time comes. The wire is about 6 ft high which makes a very sturdy cage for even the biggest tomato plant to grow. To make the cages, count off seven of the squares and then, using a cutting torch or a study pair of wire cutters, cutoff the bottom of the seventh square which will give you six 6" spikes that will make the cage as steady as a rock when they are pushed into the ground. I place my cages around the tomatoes as soon as the plants are in the ground. Once you make the cages they will last of years and years to come.

Our last area of concern is pests and diseases, specifically the tomato hornworm and blossom end rot. The tomato hornworm is nasty little creature that will surround and chew through your plant at just below ground level. To prevent this from happening push a very large nail into the ground right next to each tomato plant. This will prevent the hornworm from surrounding your plant and eating through the base.

If you see the end of your tomatoes beginning to rot as they grow, then it is surely a case of blossom end rot, which can be easily stopped from overtaking your entire tomato crop. Go to your local pharmacy and get some potassium chloride, then place two heaping tablespoons into a garden sprayer and fill with water, shake to mix then spray your plants well. Do this weekly until no new end rot appears.

If you follow this guide and use a little TLC you will have some of the largest and best tasting tomatoes one could ever ask for.

You will definitely be the envy of the entire neighborhood!!!
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Postby CopperLine » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:41 pm

Phoenix,
Some more helpful suggestions to help you relax :

Planting Turnips

Sow turnip seeds 1/2 inch deep and 1 inch apart in rows that are 12 to 36 inches apart. Thin the plants so that they are 2 to 6 inches apart. You can sow turnips in the spring for a summer crop, in the summer for a fall crop and sometimes even in the early fall for a fall crop. Turnips are flexible.

Days to harvest: 35 to 70 days
Days to germinate: 3 to 7
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Postby phoenix » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:53 pm

Thank you all, I am a seasoned gardener . . . :roll:

Perhaps if the Turks left the north, then maybe the Cypriot refugees can return to their homes and land, and continue their pre-1974 successful cultivation of what is rightfully theirs!
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