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Postby zan » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:55 am

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utu wrote:'kay, So Turkey helps with the infrastructure. The question then begs: what's the price for all of this aid?


Everything has a price utu......The price for giving into the "RoC"........We can't afford!!

We have asked the international community to recognise us and we have been double crossed.....We thought that the EU would do the right thing as they promised they would....They double crossed us......Turkey seems good right now......


Are you sure that's not grasping at straws?


Is that not better than drowning???
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Postby utu » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:58 am

If there was no other alternative, I'd agree with you. But I just don't believe that you're anywhere near that stage.
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Postby zan » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:08 am

utu wrote:If there was no other alternative, I'd agree with you. But I just don't believe that you're anywhere near that stage.


How long do you think the people are going to hold on for utu.....Great hope was replaced by great disappointment with the OXI on the Annan Plan. We were told that if the GCs voted OXI then the isolation would be lifted...Don't worry guys, we were told, you will be looked after....Just vote yes.....Like fools we did as the EU told us.....In the meantime...Tpap was telling the EU one thing and his people another......Another day another trick.......How would you feel after all that.
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Postby utu » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:11 am

zan wrote:
utu wrote:If there was no other alternative, I'd agree with you. But I just don't believe that you're anywhere near that stage.


How long do you think the people are going to hold on for utu.....Great hope was replaced by great disappointment with the OXI on the Annan Plan. We were told that if the GCs voted OXI then the isolation would be lifted...Don't worry guys, we were told, you will be looked after....Just vote yes.....Like fools we did as the EU told us.....In the meantime...Tpap was telling the EU one thing and his people another......Another day another trick.......How would you feel after all that.


Why then have you not levvied a broadside at Azerbaijan then? They had categorically said that if the Annan plan was voted down by the GC's, they would recognize the north as a sovereign nation. They didn't.
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Postby zan » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:13 am

utu wrote:
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utu wrote:If there was no other alternative, I'd agree with you. But I just don't believe that you're anywhere near that stage.


How long do you think the people are going to hold on for utu.....Great hope was replaced by great disappointment with the OXI on the Annan Plan. We were told that if the GCs voted OXI then the isolation would be lifted...Don't worry guys, we were told, you will be looked after....Just vote yes.....Like fools we did as the EU told us.....In the meantime...Tpap was telling the EU one thing and his people another......Another day another trick.......How would you feel after all that.


Why then have you not levvied a broadside at Azerbaijan then? They had categorically said that if the Annan plan was voted down by the GC's, they would recognize the north as a sovereign nation. They didn't.


I think that the EU is a bit more important utu don't you.....The isolation is imposed by threats from Greece and Cyprus to trading countries and from the allies of the Greeks......They seem to have it all sewn up in that area....
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Postby utu » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:16 am

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utu wrote:Why then have you not levvied a broadside at Azerbaijan then? They had categorically said that if the Annan plan was voted down by the GC's, they would recognize the north as a sovereign nation. They didn't.


I think that the EU is a bit more important utu don't you.....The isolation is imposed by threats from Greece and Cyprus to trading countries and from the allies of the Greeks......They seem to have it all sewn up in that area....


You didn't answer my question, Zan. I wasn't talking about the EU. I was talking about your supposed allies backing off their pledges.
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Postby zan » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:23 am

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utu wrote:Why then have you not levvied a broadside at Azerbaijan then? They had categorically said that if the Annan plan was voted down by the GC's, they would recognize the north as a sovereign nation. They didn't.


I think that the EU is a bit more important utu don't you.....The isolation is imposed by threats from Greece and Cyprus to trading countries and from the allies of the Greeks......They seem to have it all sewn up in that area....


You didn't answer my question, Zan. I wasn't talking about the EU. I was talking about your supposed allies backing off their pledges.


International pressure utu.

When we asked the British minister for Europe how if he has a plan B if unification does not come about, he told us that there is no plan B.....Unification is their aim. The question of how long this would last was not answered......We are being kicked around like a football....I am fed up with it and so are all my family in Cyprus. Annexation sounds good when you are given no other option. The fact that we are under flight restrictions was a surprise to him though which made the whole thing even more vexing!!!!
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Postby utu » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:38 am

Perhaps then I should now ask: do you think that Turkey would prefer that annexation be the only option?
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Postby zan » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:42 am

utu wrote:Perhaps then I should now ask: do you think that Turkey would prefer that annexation be the only option?


I have no doubt they would........That is not the important question though utu.....Would the TCs.....When enough get fed up with the "RoC" and the world then....Game over!!!
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Postby utu » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:45 am

zan wrote:
utu wrote:Perhaps then I should now ask: do you think that Turkey would prefer that annexation be the only option?


I have no doubt they would........That is not the important question though utu.....Would the TCs.....When enough get fed up with the "RoC" and the world then....Game over!!!


That is a rather cynical summation, Zan. And yes, the fact that TC's visiting the RoCy are getting not exactly a warm reception at times doesn't seem to alleviate things. But surely there is still some hope of reconciliation, despite these examples of antipathy?
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