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[utu]

Instead I find a well organised team of TCs who have a very forceful nature, unrelenting energy for posting and a fail safe method of attack.

They single out a victim, they all swarm in like hungry wolves and send the better-natured GCs scattering. They isolate their prey by shaming any possible supporters.

Phoenix,

I've read some pretty nasty posts by GC supporters in this forum that fit what you have described above. You may think of yourself as the voice of reason, but statements like the above is making you come across -IMHO - exactly the reverse.

[phoenix]

Instead I find a well organised team of TCs who have a very forceful nature, unrelenting energy for posting and a fail safe method of attack.

They single out a victim, they all swarm in like hungry wolves and send the better-natured GCs scattering. They isolate their prey by shaming any possible supporters.

Phoenix,

I've read some pretty nasty posts by GC supporters in this forum that fit what you have described above. You may think of yourself as the voice of reason, but statements like the above is making you come across -IMHO - exactly the reverse.

Thank you utu, for your character analysis . . . I am not out to be the voice of reason where any one particular person is concerned . . . that appears to be subjective!

But I do post the truth and avoid silencing people with threats . . . However the more the truth be told, the greater the attacks from the TCs / Turks / Agents of Turkey.

In my experience the above statement is true . . . unless you have scrutinized each and every one of my posts and what it was addressing and whom . . . then you could not possibly have a CLUE about whether in the long run I am reasonable or otherwise.

I do try to look at both sides, and as I said in my statement I am willing to hear what's being said and then I reflect on it. However, weighing up the evidence does not necessarily lead to a conclusion that both sides are always right.

Invariably the picture remains the same.

The Cypriots have been on Cyprus for at least 10,000 years. They have had many visitors and are the richer for that. Unfortunately they had a major invasion from the Ottomans who have left their relics behind . . . the TCs. They decided they did not like sharing with the Cypriots and invited Turkey to hand them a piece of Cyprus. Our people have been ethnically cleansed by Turkey who holds them away from their homes with 40,000 troops.

The details are what we argue about . . . whilst we look for a solution in removing Turkey and its agents from our Island and restoring a true and everlasting peace which is not at gunpoint.

[utu]

I do try to look at both sides, and as I said in my statement I am willing to hear what's being said and then I reflect on it. However, weighing up the evidence does not necessarily lead to a conclusion that both sides are always right.

It also does not necessarilly lead to a conclusion that both sides are always wrong either. This is the problem with looking at an issue from two sides. That way, there are two 'truths'. Where one stands determines which 'truth' is the more 'truthful'.

Reading this forum has convinced me that people on both sides are very passionate in their views, and that they beleive in the righteousness of their stance. However, it doesn't make them right, or wrong. All it does make for is a situation that's just as far from being resolved now as it was decades ago.

[denizaksulu]

Turkey has overshadowed my whole life. I still constantly have to factor Turkey into all my future life plans. She hangs over me like the sword of Damocles ready to strike again and change my objectives.

I joined this forum to vent some points of views and hear opposing views and perhaps have my notions changed for the better.

Instead I find a well organised team of TCs who have a very forceful nature, unrelenting energy for posting and a fail safe method of attack.

They single out a victim, they all swarm in like hungry wolves and send the better-natured GCs scattering. They isolate their prey by shaming any possible supporters.

Most of all they ignore evidence, reason and rationality. They are a hard lot to debate with and it has left me with complete sympathy for those people that have to deal with them in the real world.

Shame on you TCs and Turks. You had the perfect opportunity to convince me of your worth . . . instead you have only shown me your cunning fractious nature.

If you have any defence for your actions, I will hear it.

OMG, spare me the croc tears. Where's the sick bucket?

[observer]

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Unfortunately they had a major invasion from the Ottomans who have left their relics behind . . . the TCs. They decided they did not like sharing with the Cypriots and invited Turkey to hand them a piece of Cyprus. Our people have been ethnically cleansed by Turkey who holds them away from their homes with 40,000 troops.


Wonderfully objective and good natured!

[shahmaran]

Quote:
Unfortunately they had a major invasion from the Ottomans who have left their relics behind . . . the TCs. They decided they did not like sharing with the Cypriots and invited Turkey to hand them a piece of Cyprus. Our people have been ethnically cleansed by Turkey who holds them away from their homes with 40,000 troops.


Wonderfully objective and good natured!

Accurate sarcasm there my friend!

[Eric dayi]

Actually, there was a big party which was started in 1963 by the Greek Cypriots and Greeks from Greece and the party was called "Kill all TCs for ENOSIS".

The party went on for 11 years, the Greeks and GCs were getting a little bored and decided to "liven" the party up a little starting with a "coup" to be followed by "Kill all TCs for ENOSIS" again but the Greeks and GCs made a big mistake and invited Turkey to the party who put an end to the party which in turn put an end to the "Kill all TCs for ENOSIS" game which then turned in to a tug of war game, the rest is history, as they say.

[Piratis]

Since the Turks first invaded our island they have been killing GCs by the 10000s, and violating our rights for the 340 out of the 436 years they exist on this island, including the last 33+ years where they killed 1000s and ethnically cleansed 100s of thousands.

And then they try to present themselves as the victims because they lost, according to them, 800 people over a past decade, even if in that same decade they have also killed 100s of Greek Cypriots!

I wonder Eric, if 800 people are "Kill all TCs" then what do you call the 10s of thousands of GCs you have butchered?

The fact is my friend that in Cyprus you have always been the aggressors, and you are now trying to magnify by a factor of 100 that comparatively insignificant losses that you had for one reason: To find an excuse for yet more aggression and crimes against us.

[Get Real!]

And then they try to present themselves as the victims because they lost, according to them, 800 people over a past decade, even if in that same decade they have also killed 100s of Greek Cypriots!

Shit happens when you’re not used to being on the receiving end! Funny that...

[Viewpoint]

Since the Turks first invaded our island they have been killing GCs by the 10000s, and violating our rights for the 340 out of the 436 years they exist on this island, including the last 33+ years where they killed 1000s and ethnically cleansed 100s of thousands.

And then they try to present themselves as the victims because they lost, according to them, 800 people over a past decade, even if in that same decade they have also killed 100s of Greek Cypriots!

I wonder Eric, if 800 people are "Kill all TCs" then what do you call the 10s of thousands of GCs you have butchered?

The fact is my friend that in Cyprus you have always been the aggressors, and you are now trying to magnify by a factor of 100 that comparatively insignificant losses that you had for one reason: To find an excuse for yet more aggression and crimes against us.

You get stuck in the numbers game Piratis we have discussed this to death, I thought we agreed that guilt or blame does not increase or decrease in ratio with the number of deaths or atrocities.