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[Piratis]

If a person's race colours your judgement on a particular issue, then yes - that IS racism.

... says the one who supports that Cypriots should be separated and have different rights based on their race. Thats not just racism, thats making racism official and legal. Something like what Hitler did, or what they had in South Africa of Apartheid.

Oh, I forgot, such racist discriminations are necessary because Greek Cypriots are "evil", and the "good" Turkish Cypriots should be protected, right StuartN?

[oranos64]

Just seen this article in CM

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=35449

What do GC's on this forum think? - and what IS the problem with Pontians?

i can tell you with full confidence that greek speakign and trukish speaking cypriots are all racist towards each other its simpel as that any if anyone in this forum say they are not or anywhere else for that matter they need their heads examined

useless answer by freecyp ....no change there ...indeed most cypriots are xenophobic and admittingly the pondian greek/foreigners are not welcomed ,i see that a lot of locals dislike them and associate them with crime and ghetto attitudes ,not surprising as they were mostly bandits adn criminals in the last 40 years living in squalor and thrown out across the world ...here they are exploited like most foreign workers but also theire culture and journey to cyprus has made them very agressive and untrusting ..they have some weird customs too based on weird old style beliefs the greek cyps had(kidnapping a girlfriend deflowering her and so family has no option but to marry her off to the offending guy out of honour) .

the problem lies in the fact that these people are treated as outsiders and only employers for their illeterate skills are protection rackerteers ,security firms or they end up in gangs.

most of the police in cyprus arrest these guys for crimes or question them first for missing property and 85% of the stolen property listed is in their hands ...sad but true

i wouldnt employ them anyway the 12 or so i met have all turn out rotten ..two stabbed each other infront of other building site workers over betting deals ..sad really

[StuartN]

If a person's race colours your judgement on a particular issue, then yes - that IS racism.

... says the one who supports that Cypriots should be separated and have different rights based on their race. Thats not just racism, thats making racism official and legal. Something like what Hitler did, or what they had in South Africa of Apartheid.

Oh, I forgot, such racist discriminations are necessary because Greek Cypriots are "evil", and the "good" Turkish Cypriots should be protected, right StuartN?

Jeez - you are a sad individual Piratis (Barrister at Law)- You are so so wrong. Where oh where did I ever say that? .... and don't infer something from some irrelevant statement.

You really try to make something out of nothing don't you? - absolutely pathetic.

And as usual, you avoided the question because answering it seems to cause you a problem. GR also has a problem answering it doesn't he? - resorting to slagging off the writer rather than arguing the question. So, so typical, and I fully expect another ridiculous barrage from you both as it detracts from the original question.... anything but answer difficult questions eh?

[Sega]

I for one am not racist what-so-ever, however some are in-fact racist. But this is true in any country and any place. I mean how many English people are still racist towards British Pakistanis? If you are being honest with yourself you will notice that there are many, but then again there is also people who are not racist.

It all depends on the intelligence of the individual, uneducated/unknowledgeable people are racist by nature (not all though), because there is an element of uncertainty in you. For instance if I met a person who told me he lived in Dubai, I could talk to him without the element of uncertainty because I am educated and knowledgeable in his country, just like I am in most countries. If I was not knowledgeable in his/her country, I would do a bit of online research just out of curiosity.

It is true than many people in Cyprus are unknowledgeable (not sure of exactly how many), knowledge is not based in how quick you can resolve silly sums or how you have a degree in Accounting (a popular choice) but how you understand and appreciate different countries and cultures. The most knowledgeable things are taught after school.

If somebody shows racism towards you, I for one can tell you this for nothing. "They are simply not worth spending your time with, because they are scared of you, because they don't understand or know you" A clever person would not have this problem.

Sometimes people stereotype others and say "ALL (persons nationality) ARE (something negative)". This again is wrong and is because they do not truly understand the other party.

Just for the record I am GC and I am not racist, this is because I am educated and understand different countries and customs, which overall makes me tolerant towards others.

I hope this has cleared out some issues people have on racism.

[StuartN]

A sensible and fair reply. Thanks

[repulsewarrior]

it is a question of dialog, we have been isolated from each other for a longtime.

the poliitcs of both societies is mono clonal, non inclusive, and apt to take advantage of each others pride.

these gestures are coming to fruition, so to speak, they are being indentified for what they are: reactionary and intolerant, but it will take more time to get passed this.

[Piratis]

If a person's race colours your judgement on a particular issue, then yes - that IS racism.

... says the one who supports that Cypriots should be separated and have different rights based on their race. Thats not just racism, thats making racism official and legal. Something like what Hitler did, or what they had in South Africa of Apartheid.

Oh, I forgot, such racist discriminations are necessary because Greek Cypriots are "evil", and the "good" Turkish Cypriots should be protected, right StuartN?

Jeez - you are a sad individual Piratis (Barrister at Law)- You are so so wrong. Where oh where did I ever say that? .... and don't infer something from some irrelevant statement.

You really try to make something out of nothing don't you? - absolutely pathetic.

And as usual, you avoided the question because answering it seems to cause you a problem. GR also has a problem answering it doesn't he? - resorting to slagging off the writer rather than arguing the question. So, so typical, and I fully expect another ridiculous barrage from you both as it detracts from the original question.... anything but answer difficult questions eh?

The answer to the question is not anything exciting to bother with. Some Greek Cypriots are racists, in the same way some English, Turks, Americans etc are.

So I am wrong in what I said about you? So tell me: Do you recognize the "trnc" the illegal state created by means of ethnic cleansing? And what solution do you support for the Cyprus problem? Do you support a solution where all people are equal without racist or other divisions and discriminations?

If I got the wrong impression about you, or if you changed your mind since we last discussed these issues, then I apologize. But if you indeed support the "trnc" and racist discriminations, then there is no need to hide behind your finger.

[StuartN]

So I am wrong in what I said about you?

YES

So tell me: Do you recognize the "trnc" the illegal state created by means of ethnic cleansing?

NO - however I will not allow politics to dictate my life. I shall continue to work and live in both RoC and TRNC as necessary. I'm in control of my life - not you.

And what solution do you support for the Cyprus problem? Do you support a solution where all people are equal without racist or other divisions and discriminations?

Yes - of course. I'm not a bigot.

Piratis - do consider yourself racist? - the original question. (again)
What is your view of the Pontians?

[Bananiot]

Not all GC's are racists, of course. Many of them are, however, as well as insecure and xenophobic.

[StuartN]

Piratis - don't bother with the question - I've just been looking at a previous post of yours...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=8392#8392