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[Nikitas]

I am neither mocking nor laughing. What I wanted is to stress that the story has a tit for tat aspect and that things happened before 1963 and children died then too. Both sides bear blame.

By the way VP, I lived the events of 1958 and KNOW how things were and who was doing what. And definitely it was not a time for laughter.

[Viewpoint]

This holier than thou mentality will not wash with TCs as they do not trust GCs at all, Im sure this is the case in reverse as well. In order to alleviate this problem both sides have to take measures to show that they do not want to exploit or control the other community. Thats why I always support a level playing field, whereby what you see fit for the south you should also authorize or ask of the north. No army in the south no army in the north, recognize airport in the south one in the north and so on until we reach as stage where both sides are level but of course GCs reject this idea as that would mean seeing both sides as equals which they are totally against.

[boomerang]

and everone returns to their ancestral lands...sounds good to me...indeed a level playing field...

[Get Real!]

We are constantly reminded of 1571. That was the beginning of 'ethnic cleansing ' in Cyprus in 1963, which would have taken place had not the Turkish Jets flown over Nicosia. This is fresh in living memory. An important issue to remember. People do not forget. That goes to both sides.

Oh really? Do you know why Turkish jets bombed the Kokkina area?

[denizaksulu]

We are constantly reminded of 1571. That was the beginning of 'ethnic cleansing ' in Cyprus in 1963, which would have taken place had not the Turkish Jets flown over Nicosia. This is fresh in living memory. An important issue to remember. People do not forget. That goes to both sides.

Oh really? Do you know why Turkish jets bombed the Kokkina area?

I refer to the picture and its content. Kokkina was later. Yes I do know about Kokkina. You tell me. Obviously you know the answer (your version). Lets have it straight.
...and good morning, sorry, good afternoon GR.

[boomerang]

don't be a wiggler deniz....he asked you first

now lets have it straight, without the wiggling

thanking you in advance...

[Get Real!]

Do you know why Turkish jets bombed the Kokkina area?

I refer to the picture and its content. Kokkina was later. Yes I do know about Kokkina. You tell me. Obviously you know the answer (your version). Lets have it straight.
...and good morning, sorry, good afternoon GR.

Good afternoon dear Deniz,

The answer to your question is given in one of my older posts, and remember that when Turkey sends jets it’s for a VERY good reason…

Kokkina was the ONLY SEA PORT accessible to the Turkish Cypriots, and at a very convenient location just across from Turkey, and that's why the TC's with the aid of Turkey fiercely resisted its surrender.

There simply was no other way TCs could smuggle weapons in Cyprus as all airports were controlled by GCs and here's some evidence of boat arms smuggling activity no doubt heading for Kokkina as there was nowhere else for the boat to go...

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Navy.htm

Turkey knew that had the Kokkina port fallen to Greek Cypriot’s their plan for partition would have be thwarted so they HAD to act in their interests… not those of Turkish Cypriots.

[denizaksulu]

don't be a wiggler deniz....he asked you first

now lets have it straight, without the wiggling

thanking you in advance...

GR asked me that question months ago and I remember not answering him. He has his own versions and I have mine. The truth is known to the people who lived through it and not by people who merely read about it.

I have also read from (non-TC sources) esp Greek Army Officers of the conflict and the heroic resistance of the few hundred University brothers of mine and of the resistance they put up against the National Guard and their Eoka henchmen. Yes , they were holding a bridgehead in hope of a Turkish Invasion and yes they were nearly starved to death. ...and finally the arrival of the Turkish Jets did save them from annihilation. What is the point GR is trying to score now?

btw, since when have you become GRs mouthpiece?

Have a g'day and thank you for yur politeness.(in advance)

[denizaksulu]

Do you know why Turkish jets bombed the Kokkina area?

I refer to the picture and its content. Kokkina was later. Yes I do know about Kokkina. You tell me. Obviously you know the answer (your version). Lets have it straight.
...and good morning, sorry, good afternoon GR.

Good afternoon dear Deniz,

The answer to your question is given in one of my older posts, and remember that when Turkey sends jets it’s for a VERY good reason…

Kokkina was the ONLY SEA PORT accessible to the Turkish Cypriots, and at a very convenient location just across from Turkey, and that's why the TC's with the aid of Turkey fiercely resisted its surrender.

There simply was no other way TCs could smuggle weapons in Cyprus as all airports were controlled by GCs and here's some evidence of boat arms smuggling activity no doubt heading for Kokkina as there was nowhere else for the boat to go...

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Navy.htm

Turkey knew that had the Kokkina port fallen to Greek Cypriot’s their plan for partition would have be thwarted so they HAD to act in their interests… not those of Turkish Cypriots.

Thats what I mean GR I had read that post before. You will see things from a different point of view than us. What was the relevance to the photo of your mate Sampson 'liberating' the women and children of Kaimakli.

Regards

[DT.]

don't be a wiggler deniz....he asked you first

now lets have it straight, without the wiggling

thanking you in advance...

GR asked me that question months ago and I remember not answering him. He has his own versions and I have mine. The truth is known to the people who lived through it and not by people who merely read about it.

I have also read from (non-TC sources) esp Greek Army Officers of the conflict and the heroic resistance of the few hundred University brothers of mine and of the resistance they put up against the National Guard and their Eoka henchmen. Yes , they were holding a bridgehead in hope of a Turkish Invasion and yes they were nearly starved to death. ...and finally the arrival of the Turkish Jets did save them from annihilation. What is the point GR is trying to score now?

btw, since when have you become GRs mouthpiece?

Have a g'day and thank you for yur politeness.(in advance)

Sorry Deniz

"Yes , they were holding a bridgehead in hope of a Turkish Invasion"

means these people were working towards taksim, and were enemies of a state. I'm sure that if someone held a bridgehead for the Kurds in Turkey for the reasons of an invasion by Kurdish forces and partitio of Turkey that the Turkish forces would be in their rights to crush that rebellion.

Now your second line confuses me

.."and yes they were nearly starved to death".

Thats like saying the burglar in my house had to hide in the closet until we were gone but because he was crouchng so long had to go to hospital afterwards with severe back pain.

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