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[oranos64]

Here is one I can't remember but My brother inlaw and his family can.....Turkish Flag in one hand and a gun in the other...Sampson then went on to murder the men of the village and put tthe wwomen and children in concentration camps...would you like to see the licture of the murdered children I was talking about??

My first wife remembers that scene very well. She was one of the many hudreds of hostages taken away from Kaymakli. She will never forget the beatings and the screams of the women and children. Also the removal of the men never to be seen again. Not a very good New Years day lay ahead for a 16 year old.

Needles to say, on their release all the houses were looted by their GC neighbors.

My brother in-laws father only escaped the massacre because he was at the Kapali carsi selling his sulu mahalebi. His daughter nearly died in those concentration camps through starvation and disease. What a time to be alive...so surreal. You go out to earn a days wages and that is what happens to your family...

Zan regardless of comments made on this forum ...you should understand that great wrongs were done by both communties ...as i said before my family both sides were in the U.K FROM 55 ...so most of this stuff i read about now ...in the last 3/4 years since coming to cyprus ...

i am sorry to read these articles ....proves that just a couple of rotten apples can damage a whole basket

hmm

[zan]

Here is one I can't remember but My brother inlaw and his family can.....Turkish Flag in one hand and a gun in the other...Sampson then went on to murder the men of the village and put tthe wwomen and children in concentration camps...would you like to see the licture of the murdered children I was talking about??

My first wife remembers that scene very well. She was one of the many hudreds of hostages taken away from Kaymakli. She will never forget the beatings and the screams of the women and children. Also the removal of the men never to be seen again. Not a very good New Years day lay ahead for a 16 year old.

Needles to say, on their release all the houses were looted by their GC neighbors.

My brother in-laws father only escaped the massacre because he was at the Kapali carsi selling his sulu mahalebi. His daughter nearly died in those concentration camps through starvation and disease. What a time to be alive...so surreal. You go out to earn a days wages and that is what happens to your family...

Zan regardless of comments made on this forum ...you should understand that great wrongs were done by both communties ...as i said before my family both sides were in the U.K FROM 55 ...so most of this stuff i read about now ...in the last 3/4 years since coming to cyprus ...

i am sorry to read these articles ....proves that just a couple of rotten apples can damage a whole basket

hmm

Thank you for acknowledging it mate but many here will not and those that do still dismiss it as a factor in how and why Cyprus is as it is today and why it should be considered in any settlement plans.

[utu]

Zan regardless of comments made on this forum ...you should understand that great wrongs were done by both communties ...as i said before my family both sides were in the U.K FROM 55 ...so most of this stuff i read about now ...in the last 3/4 years since coming to cyprus ...

i am sorry to read these articles ....proves that just a couple of rotten apples can damage a whole basket

So one would have to find and remove the rotten apples before it is too late.... or is it too late?

[Nikitas]

I remember that picture well, it was published in papers and we saw it in London, we had moved there a few month earlier.

Not far from the place where the photo was taken, a few years earlier similar scenes unfolded but the roles were reversed.

HOw we went from ewasy going village people to this is the mystery.

[Viewpoint]

Here is one I can't remember but My brother inlaw and his family can.....Turkish Flag in one hand and a gun in the other...Sampson then went on to murder the men of the village and put tthe wwomen and children in concentration camps...would you like to see the licture of the murdered children I was talking about??

My first wife remembers that scene very well. She was one of the many hudreds of hostages taken away from Kaymakli. She will never forget the beatings and the screams of the women and children. Also the removal of the men never to be seen again. Not a very good New Years day lay ahead for a 16 year old.

Needles to say, on their release all the houses were looted by their GC neighbors.

My brother in-laws father only escaped the massacre because he was at the Kapali carsi selling his sulu mahalebi. His daughter nearly died in those concentration camps through starvation and disease. What a time to be alive...so surreal. You go out to earn a days wages and that is what happens to your family...

Zan regardless of comments made on this forum ...you should understand that great wrongs were done by both communties ...as i said before my family both sides were in the U.K FROM 55 ...so most of this stuff i read about now ...in the last 3/4 years since coming to cyprus ...

i am sorry to read these articles ....proves that just a couple of rotten apples can damage a whole basket

hmm

Thank you oranos, for not mocking or just totally blocking out what really happened back then, like most on this forum who can turn the death of innocent women and children into a joke for the sake of making themselves feel better. These snide remarks only add to the fear that GCs have not changed one iota and would worm their way out of anything.

[denizaksulu]

Here is one I can't remember but My brother inlaw and his family can.....Turkish Flag in one hand and a gun in the other...Sampson then went on to murder the men of the village and put tthe wwomen and children in concentration camps...would you like to see the licture of the murdered children I was talking about??

My first wife remembers that scene very well. She was one of the many hudreds of hostages taken away from Kaymakli. She will never forget the beatings and the screams of the women and children. Also the removal of the men never to be seen again. Not a very good New Years day lay ahead for a 16 year old.

Needles to say, on their release all the houses were looted by their GC neighbors.

My brother in-laws father only escaped the massacre because he was at the Kapali carsi selling his sulu mahalebi. His daughter nearly died in those concentration camps through starvation and disease. What a time to be alive...so surreal. You go out to earn a days wages and that is what happens to your family...

Zan regardless of comments made on this forum ...you should understand that great wrongs were done by both communties ...as i said before my family both sides were in the U.K FROM 55 ...so most of this stuff i read about now ...in the last 3/4 years since coming to cyprus ...

i am sorry to read these articles ....proves that just a couple of rotten apples can damage a whole basket

hmm

We are constantly reminded of 1571. That was the beginning of 'ethnic cleansing ' in Cyprus in 1963, which would have taken place had not the Turkish Jets flown over Nicosia. This is fresh in living memory. An important issue to remember. People do not forget. That goes to both sides.

[zan]

Here is one I can't remember but My brother inlaw and his family can.....Turkish Flag in one hand and a gun in the other...Sampson then went on to murder the men of the village and put tthe wwomen and children in concentration camps...would you like to see the licture of the murdered children I was talking about??

My first wife remembers that scene very well. She was one of the many hudreds of hostages taken away from Kaymakli. She will never forget the beatings and the screams of the women and children. Also the removal of the men never to be seen again. Not a very good New Years day lay ahead for a 16 year old.

Needles to say, on their release all the houses were looted by their GC neighbors.

My brother in-laws father only escaped the massacre because he was at the Kapali carsi selling his sulu mahalebi. His daughter nearly died in those concentration camps through starvation and disease. What a time to be alive...so surreal. You go out to earn a days wages and that is what happens to your family...

Zan regardless of comments made on this forum ...you should understand that great wrongs were done by both communties ...as i said before my family both sides were in the U.K FROM 55 ...so most of this stuff i read about now ...in the last 3/4 years since coming to cyprus ...

i am sorry to read these articles ....proves that just a couple of rotten apples can damage a whole basket

hmm

Thank you oranos, for not mocking or just totally blocking out what really happened back then, like most on this forum who can turn the death of innocent women and children into a joke for the sake of making themselves feel better. These snide remarks only add to the fear that GCs have not changed one iota and would worm their way out of anything.

If only we could get that point into their heads VP


You know the most chilling part of this picture is that it portrays an even grizzlier aspect of that period than the actual ones of people mutilated. I mean...They knew what they were about to do and Sampson's body language shows exactly the animal he was. Staring into the camera and saying look at me I will go down in history as a Greek hero. The soldiers are trying to slightly distance them selves from him and the flag. Look at the guy holding the flag. He could not get further away..The guilt of knowing what was to happen already showing. I am sure that there was an element of fear that he was stealing Sampson's limelight as well but the intent is there for all to see. Murder and intent in the foreground and innocence, trust and fear in the background. "Come out", he shouted, "Come out of your homes. We are here to protect you". Cold blooded murder

[Nikitas]

"Mr Tremeseli described how one day they wanted to threaten the Greek Cypriots and to encourage the Turkish Cypriots, they went to Omorfita where there was a coffee shop, near the police station, where members of EOKA used to go. They have chosen the coffee shop as a target. He and two other persons started firing at the persons sitting in the coffee shop. As he stated, he wanted to kill many persons, he wanted to kill at least fifteen persons. But his gun was jammed. He said he definitely hit five persons but he does not know if the died. "

Mr Tremeseli gave an interview to Kibris newspaper regarding his career in TMT and MIT.

The above happened in 1958. It was followed by the expulsion of several hundred Greek Cypriots from Omorfita by TMT gunmen while the British looked on. The conflict had its "heroes" on both sides. So let us keep things in perspective.

[zan]

"Mr Tremeseli described how one day they wanted to threaten the Greek Cypriots and to encourage the Turkish Cypriots, they went to Omorfita where there was a coffee shop, near the police station, where members of EOKA used to go. They have chosen the coffee shop as a target. He and two other persons started firing at the persons sitting in the coffee shop. As he stated, he wanted to kill many persons, he wanted to kill at least fifteen persons. But his gun was jammed. He said he definitely hit five persons but he does not know if the died. "

Mr Tremeseli gave an interview to Kibris newspaper regarding his career in TMT and MIT.

The above happened in 1958. It was followed by the expulsion of several hundred Greek Cypriots from Omorfita by TMT gunmen while the British looked on. The conflict had its "heroes" on both sides. So let us keep things in perspective.

The perspective is that you show EOKA men being attacked and I show women and children.......I only say this as you have tried to justify the event or maybe even quantify it.


I have to go to work now!!!!

[Viewpoint]

"Mr Tremeseli described how one day they wanted to threaten the Greek Cypriots and to encourage the Turkish Cypriots, they went to Omorfita where there was a coffee shop, near the police station, where members of EOKA used to go. They have chosen the coffee shop as a target. He and two other persons started firing at the persons sitting in the coffee shop. As he stated, he wanted to kill many persons, he wanted to kill at least fifteen persons. But his gun was jammed. He said he definitely hit five persons but he does not know if the died. "

Mr Tremeseli gave an interview to Kibris newspaper regarding his career in TMT and MIT.

The above happened in 1958. It was followed by the expulsion of several hundred Greek Cypriots from Omorfita by TMT gunmen while the British looked on. The conflict had its "heroes" on both sides. So let us keep things in perspective.

Why is it that GCs have a habit of mocking and joking about something as serious as the cold blooded murder of children? oranos proved to be the bigger person by displaying his condolences which goes a long way to gaining the opposites sides understanding. The stand off and ridicule tactics of GCs will yet again be their downfall, the we can piss further than you mindset is not just childish but very dangerous, it will lead us to disasters even bigger than 1974