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[Get Real!]

I know what you are doing Pyro.. GR has sent you here to cover up his bullshit and here you are like a little puppy doing his dirty work.....Let the boy have a go himself will you...He has to learn some time...The thread will not die like he intended...It will come back and bite him some day

This is getting beyond absurd!

I don't tell Pyro what to do! He's been around longer than I and can more than stand his ground!

[Pyrpolizer]

I know what you are doing Pyro.. GR has sent you here to cover up his bullshit and here you are like a little puppy doing his dirty work.....Let the boy have a go himself will you...He has to learn some time...The thread will not die like he intended...It will come back and bite him some day

[phoenix]

Your incessant games conducted from the safety & comfort of London are most tiring. Personally, I don’t think those not living here should have a say in Cypriot matters as they are out of touch with reality and have forfeited their ties with this land anyway.

Interestingly, they are also the most likely to post archaic one-sided nonsense based on illusions invented by Boogeyman stories spread by their community’s constant sensationalizing of petty events.

Three year-olds don’t remember ANYTHING Zanny so it’s time you visited your local psychologist and rid this forum of your drivel.

You should stand back and take a look too GR. If only to see what people like you have created in Cyprus. A bitter division. You generalise too much and I suggest you are wrong. Had people like Zan or me and others had stayed in Cyprus, then you would have still atacked us as being in 'illegal' occupation etc etc. With you there are no winners.

How about a comment on this? (bolded)

You will be surprised at the capabilty of toddlers remembering traumatic experiences. Ask your 'friend' Phoenix who seems to be bio/medically inclined, she can give you a few hints. Now you are going to tell us that you have no recollection of running up and down the dusty streets with no pants on. Maybe it wasnt traumatic enough for you but it must have been hilarious for your parents.

A three year old hasn't got the faintest clue what a gun, sand bag, or barbed wire is used for so fear from material things alone (visible items) is impossible at this young age.

If a three year old were to see his parents in fear, crying, panicking, etc then that would definitely induce fear in the toddler but one that lasts 40+ years? I don't think so... Zan's imagination has seemingly been severely manipulated by those close to him and his community in general.

MOST people in Cyprus did NOT experience ANYTHING dramatic during 1963...69 because the inter-communal fighting was very limited in scope and very sporadic but it seems trendy to pretend to have experienced heaps; typical Cypriot show-off attitude!

Get Real! I am not agreeing with Zan at all that a 3 year old could understand the complexity of the conflicts occurring in 1963 - 1964. You are more in tune with the idea that it is due to constant reminders by adults that shape the memories.

However, I was 5 years old (and much cleverer than Zan kidding!) and that is old enough to remember the noises of the planes flying overhead, time spent in bomb shelters, and bombs landing around us whilst caught in the open.

I don't know where Zan was but we were caught up in the Pomos - Polis raids that ensued from the Kokkina situation . . . and it was not minor!

In August 1964, another major battle took place in the Kokkina Mansoura area. Fighting broke out on 3 August and continued until 6 August, during which the Turkish air force bombed Greek villages indiscriminately with napalm. The clash at Kokkina drew sharp attention to the realities of Cypriot vulnerability to the power politics of Turkey. A cease-fire was reached on 9 August and drew to a close this latest serious outbreak of violence.

The resulting casualties, however, give an interesting insight into these events. According to Turkish sources, the fights at Kokkina resulted in 53 Greek Cypriots dead and 125 injured. On the Turkish side, only 12 fatalities and 32 wounded are recorded. These figures reflect the degree of military preparedness on the Turkish side and again emphasise that the Turkish Cypriot strategy was one of occupying strategic positions to facilitate territorial gain through armed rebellion, although camouflaged in the language of minority protection.

As for not contributing unless we live in Cyprus, in my case I had no choice but to be moved to the UK (my mum had issues with Grivas too so it was complex) . . . however our ties and home are still there and this passage to the UK was merely transient. Cyprus has always been my true home even if I haven't always had the pleasure and honour of living there permanently.

So I now ask myself "What can I do for my country?" . . . and I intend to help any way I can.

(Please don't tell me to leave the Cyprus Problem to the men if I am to be of any help!).

Well I posted this on page 28 . . . but Zan came along and posted his after me and had to have the limelight and all the psychoanalysis and stole my thunder. I'm really miffed because my memories were authentic and I have evidence.

It's not fair! Zan, Zan, always bloody Zan!

[zan]

I'll tell you what else I remember GR....I remember the pain of having my legs pulled apart too much when having my circumcision. I don't remember the actual cut probably because it did not hurt as much as my legs. I remember my cousin crying because he was scared...We were done at the same time.

How old were you when your Willie was chopped off? (Oops I mean circumcised)

3 1/2 (ish)

I remember a new pair of shoes when walking to a festival one Bayram. I remember my Aunt pulling me off a donkey because I made my little sister cry. I remember tracer bullets flying through the air on Bloody Christmas night.

In which suburb were you living in 1963 and which date did you leave to go to England if you were still there xmas?


How many times have I got to tell you re malaga 1964

The smell of figs always give me joy of a happy part of my childhood. I remember walking into that house where those kids were gunned down in cold blood and the feeling of my feet sticking to the ground.

Which kids are these and what were you doing in that house?

You know damned well and are sticking your neck out again

I remember Kolinos the toothpaste advert. I remember wetting the bed until I was 11 and the vivid dreams and waking up screaming in the night and not knowing why. I remember liking my Uncle whose leg was shot off between 1963/64 whilst he was cycling to work by a Greek sniper but I don't remember why I liked him so much. I remember the fights my nan and grandad used to have because he was always drunk. I remember being stung on the hand because I picked up a bee that I thought was dead.

We all have mixed up little bits and pieces of memory but are you claiming that yours all occured up to the age of three?

Did you not read what I said to Pyro...Working together to blur tthe edges agian I see

I remember having my head cracked open by a kid with a sling shot. All bits and pieces but nothing solid....Apparently I was run over by a bread van but have no memory of it but a scar on the back of my head to prove it.

How much punishment did that head take? It's all coming together now...

I have an excuse what is yours

You can ridicule all you like mate but facts are facts.....Your callous attitude does nothing for your image and only goes to reinforce what we all think about you. You are about as bad as it gets in Cyprus. Your constant reference to war and your threats are about as low as anyone can go so being judged by you will not have a lasting effect on my memory and you will not feature much in future thoughts. Just like the pain of my tonsils you will be forgotten......

Zanny noooooooooooooooooooooo don't forget meeeeeeeeee!!!!

Zanny, you've written nothing in this post that convinces me that you were caught up in any sort of fighting in 1963 or before.

The psychoanalysts’ verdict: This boy was traumatized by his elders when he was able to understand basic conversation... in England!

You have obviously been talking to too many psychoanalysts but you were on the couch at the time and that does not make you an expert.....If I thought for one minute that you would actually admit defeat and to being a complete prat then and only then would I need my head examined.

[Get Real!]

You have obviously been talking to too many psychoanalysts but you were on the couch at the time and that does not make you an expert.....If I thought for one minute that you would actually admit defeat and to being a complete prat then and only then would I need my head examined. [/color]

You’ve hardly touched those questions!

You may be a bit of a fibster and a drama boy; most likely a side effect of having only half a Willie, but we still love you Zanny… honest!

[zan]

You have obviously been talking to too many psychoanalysts but you were on the couch at the time and that does not make you an expert.....If I thought for one minute that you would actually admit defeat and to being a complete prat then and only then would I need my head examined. [/color]

You’ve hardly touched those questions!

You may be a bit of a fibster and a drama boy; most likely a side effect of having only half a Willie, but we still love you Zanny… honest!

Why would you want answers to things you already know. If I have to deal with two Inspector Cleusos' now then I will have to show you up in stereo.

[Get Real!]

Thanks for the pic Pyro...

[Pyrpolizer]

You have obviously been talking to too many psychoanalysts but you were on the couch at the time and that does not make you an expert.....If I thought for one minute that you would actually admit defeat and to being a complete prat then and only then would I need my head examined. [/color]

You’ve hardly touched those questions!

You may be a bit of a fibster and a drama boy; most likely a side effect of having only half a Willie, but we still love you Zanny… honest!

Why would you want answers to things you already know. If I have to deal with two Inspector Cleusos' now then I will have to show you up in stereo.

[Pyrpolizer]

Thanks for the pic Pyro...

Do you think they translate in Shakespeare's language?

[Pyrpolizer]

Oh you translsated it already!

Yeap,Grivas is coming!