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[T_C]

TC observes:

"We were either Turks or Greeks. Plus we were just VILLAGERS with villager mentality! Considering all the mainlanders' glories and what not, no wonder the Cypriots wanted to associate with the motherlands so much. But times have changed! We are now proud of our villager roots. Our culture, traditions and history stand no chance to survive if more and more Turks come to Cyprus. "

Precisely the same complex of the villager towards the cosmopolitan mainlander afflicted the Greek Cypriots back in the 60s and early 70s. Then we realised that they villagers just as much as we were. After 1974 when we had to do or sink, and we managed to recover and economically catch up to Greece the balance was more towards us. When we joined the EU and saw that in Europe the Cypriots were in many ways more in tune with the rest of Europe then Greece was the complex was totally gone.

This is the way forward for Turkish Cypriots as well. You are more European than you know. And tell the mainlanders to fuck off. Turkey is a huge country they do not need to come to Cyprus to find land or make their fortune. They are put there for other reasons.

I personally don't think the we're Europeans but I understand why you'd say that though....

I somewhat agree with what you said. I wouldn't tell them to "fuck off" but there needs to be some sort of CONTROL....we cannot lose our culture for nobody. I know they also help with the economy but running a country isn't just about economy. Retaining our cultures (both Turkish and Cypriot) is our responsibility!

For the time being we don't have to worry about losing our Turkishness AT ALL, we are divided! But our Cypriotness IS at stake at the moment and we should do something about it now, while we still can....

[Nikitas]

TC

I had the dubious pleasure of walking through large parts of France. As you come south, over the Massif Central there is a very sudden change. Within a few hundred meters the fields are no longer green, oaks give way to cypress, and you see acres of vineyards and olive trees. That is when you realise the difference between northern Europe and Europe proper. The landscape and the people there are more like us than they are like the Germans and the English. It is this similarity I had in mind when saying you are more European than you realise.

Tim in his excellent post notices that the greater the onslaught of mainlanders the stronger is the assertion of Cypriotness. His posts and yours are a ray of hope. And both our leaders have recently made reference to involving citizens' fora in their quest for a solution. Maybe one of their assistants will take a look in here.....

[zan]

TC observes:

"We were either Turks or Greeks. Plus we were just VILLAGERS with villager mentality! Considering all the mainlanders' glories and what not, no wonder the Cypriots wanted to associate with the motherlands so much. But times have changed! We are now proud of our villager roots. Our culture, traditions and history stand no chance to survive if more and more Turks come to Cyprus. "

Precisely the same complex of the villager towards the cosmopolitan mainlander afflicted the Greek Cypriots back in the 60s and early 70s. Then we realised that they villagers just as much as we were. After 1974 when we had to do or sink, and we managed to recover and economically catch up to Greece the balance was more towards us. When we joined the EU and saw that in Europe the Cypriots were in many ways more in tune with the rest of Europe then Greece was the complex was totally gone.

This is the way forward for Turkish Cypriots as well. You are more European than you know. And tell the mainlanders to fuck off. Turkey is a huge country they do not need to come to Cyprus to find land or make their fortune. They are put there for other reasons.

I personally don't think the we're Europeans but I understand why you'd say that though....

I somewhat agree with what you said. I wouldn't tell them to "fuck off" but there needs to be some sort of CONTROL....we cannot lose our culture for nobody. I know they also help with the economy but running a country isn't just about economy. Retaining our cultures (both Turkish and Cypriot) is our responsibility!

For the time being we don't have to worry about losing our Turkishness AT ALL, we are divided! But our Cypriotness IS at stake at the moment and we should do something about it now, while we still can....

We can't take control until the "RoC" gives us some kind of recognition. They help Turkey then blame us

[T_C]

Phat chance of that ever happening. The GCs are looking out for themselves only most of the time. Don't get me wrong zan...I am not saying that Anatolians should be "banned" from Cyprus...or that they should ALL pack up and leave. The people who have been here for 40 odd years and those who have married Cypriots should stay but we should have tight controls and not let it get out of hand. It just upsets me because we've ended up like the Armenians where we have more people in the diaspora than in the country.

[zan]

Phat chance of that ever happening. The GCs are looking out for themselves only most of the time. Don't get me wrong zan...I am not saying that Anatolians should be "banned" from Cyprus...or that they should ALL pack up and leave. The people who have been here for 40 odd years and those who have married Cypriots should stay but we should have tight controls and not let it get out of hand. It just upsets me because we've ended up like the Armenians where we have more people in the diaspora than in the country.

I hear you mate and am with you but the GCs leave us no choice

[Get Real!]

Phat chance of that ever happening. The GCs are looking out for themselves only most of the time. Don't get me wrong zan...I am not saying that Anatolians should be "banned" from Cyprus...or that they should ALL pack up and leave. The people who have been here for 40 odd years and those who have married Cypriots should stay but we should have tight controls and not let it get out of hand. It just upsets me because we've ended up like the Armenians where we have more people in the diaspora than in the country.

I hear you mate and am with you but the GCs leave us no choice

The constant Turkish and TC games will end up in nothing short of war the price of which will be paid by future generations.

[zan]

Phat chance of that ever happening. The GCs are looking out for themselves only most of the time. Don't get me wrong zan...I am not saying that Anatolians should be "banned" from Cyprus...or that they should ALL pack up and leave. The people who have been here for 40 odd years and those who have married Cypriots should stay but we should have tight controls and not let it get out of hand. It just upsets me because we've ended up like the Armenians where we have more people in the diaspora than in the country.

I hear you mate and am with you but the GCs leave us no choice

The constant Turkish and TC games will end up in nothing short of war the price of which will be paid by future generations.

Wash your hands now Mr Pontius Pilot for tomorrow they are covered in blood. As they were back in 1963

[Get Real!]

Phat chance of that ever happening. The GCs are looking out for themselves only most of the time. Don't get me wrong zan...I am not saying that Anatolians should be "banned" from Cyprus...or that they should ALL pack up and leave. The people who have been here for 40 odd years and those who have married Cypriots should stay but we should have tight controls and not let it get out of hand. It just upsets me because we've ended up like the Armenians where we have more people in the diaspora than in the country.

I hear you mate and am with you but the GCs leave us no choice

The constant Turkish and TC games will end up in nothing short of war the price of which will be paid by future generations.

Wash your hands now Mr Pontius Pilot for tomorrow they are covered in blood. As they were back in 1963

Your incessant games conducted from the safety & comfort of London are most tiring. Personally, I don’t think those not living here should have a say in Cypriot matters as they are out of touch with reality and have forfeited their ties with this land anyway.

Interestingly, they are also the most likely to post archaic one-sided nonsense based on illusions invented by Boogeyman stories spread by their community’s constant sensationalizing of petty events.

Three year-olds don’t remember ANYTHING Zanny so it’s time you visited your local psychologist and rid this forum of your drivel.

[denizaksulu]

Phat chance of that ever happening. The GCs are looking out for themselves only most of the time. Don't get me wrong zan...I am not saying that Anatolians should be "banned" from Cyprus...or that they should ALL pack up and leave. The people who have been here for 40 odd years and those who have married Cypriots should stay but we should have tight controls and not let it get out of hand. It just upsets me because we've ended up like the Armenians where we have more people in the diaspora than in the country.

I hear you mate and am with you but the GCs leave us no choice

The constant Turkish and TC games will end up in nothing short of war the price of which will be paid by future generations.

Wash your hands now Mr Pontius Pilot for tomorrow they are covered in blood. As they were back in 1963

Your incessant games conducted from the safety & comfort of London are most tiring. Personally, I don’t think those not living here should have a say in Cypriot matters as they are out of touch with reality and have forfeited their ties with this land anyway.

Interestingly, they are also the most likely to post archaic one-sided nonsense based on illusions invented by Boogeyman stories spread by their community’s constant sensationalizing of petty events.

Three year-olds don’t remember ANYTHING Zanny so it’s time you visited your local psychologist and rid this forum of your drivel.

You should stand back and take a look too GR. If only to see what people like you have created in Cyprus. A bitter division. You generalise too much and I suggest you are wrong. Had people like Zan or me and others had stayed in Cyprus, then you would have still atacked us as being in 'illegal' occupation etc etc. With you there are no winners.

[DT.]

Eric
You are a fool if you think Turkish Cypriots are officially classified the same as a mainland Turk when it comes to the crunch..Ask yourself why a Turkish Cypriot can only get promotion up to a limited level in Turkish Army and let me know also if you come up with a logical answer..
TURKS IN TURKEY DO NOT SEE US TC's AS FULL BLOODED TURKS & THEY SHOW THIS AT EVERY OFFICIAL LEVEL (or even during a simple argument)
Why do you insist on thinking you are the same as a Turk from mainland? YOU ARE NOT!!!

You should be asking yourself the question why they don't see you and people who think and talk like you as Turks iceman or do you really think that they are going to trust you when you keep telling them you are different to them?

The problem is that not only do some TCs see themselves as different to mainland Turks but they even see themselves as being different to those TCs who have been living outside of the TRNC for a while and specially those who were born in foreign countries. Why is that iceman?

Whats the matter Eric? Found out you and Zan don't speak for all the TC's as you keep on telling us? Take a long hard look Eric.....