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[zan]

:shocked: Oh come on Pyro! That sounds ridiculous!

Yet true my friend. If it gives you any comfort those settlers were Kurds.

I can give you other examples like using the toilet for their animals to drink water and the bathtap to place their food.

We had many thousand Gcs living in Karpaz T_C. They witnessed all these events, and I heard them from too many.

if I remember well they were also throwing away the chairs as they liked sitting on the floor.

The man of culture that knows nothing hahahahahaaaaaa. This is about as stupid as it can get and you have made some cockups on this forum Pyro hahahahahaaaa

The ape has come down from the trees and is calling his brothers uncivilised apes.......The art of hanging meat is an age old trade carried out by kings you doughnut....Lords and bishops hang pheasant for days before cooking. many meats are cured in the sun with flies shitting on them day and night and you eat it. How soon we forget where we came from.....Just popping down to the super market dear!!!!hahahahahahahaaaa. Give me ten pounds in my pocket and a farm and get rid of these moronic snobs out of Cyprus.......for fucks sake.....

Thank you for admitting the settlers carry middle-age traditions with them. Perhaps you should go in Karpaz and learn how to do it yourself. Perhaps you should join them for lunch too.

As for curing meat in the sun perhaps you should learn some chemistry as to what is done to it prior to that, like for example soacking it in wine and smoking it on fire.

Oh and another thing:As soon as flies get on that meat, it's finished, the process of drying the meat was unsuccessful. Better throw it away


Why do you all get fanatic when we point your barbaric ethics and roots. Why the same reaction when we point you truths concerning your ilk like the above and the Armenian genocide? Do you reject your OWNSELVES?

You are digging yourself in deeper and deeper with your ignorance. Every thing you do is from the middle ages you pranit. It really is a Greek trait you know, this arrogance. The number of times I have heard people say that you guys think you are better than everyone else is amazing. I usually defend you but I am beginning to see they are right. What a burk you are to try and distance yourself from the ape you really are hahahahahahahahaha. The worst kind as well. The type that doesn't even know it is an ape. The conscious mind seems not to have developed in you.


And your stupid comment above about why I did not save the children in 1974 goes a long way to proving that. Want to ask any more stupid questions

[zan]

Zan wrote:

"All over the Greek islands there are Muslim Greeks but it seems not a single Turk. Funny that"

Wrong, very wrong! I have been there several times. They are not simply Moslem, they are Turkish and they say so. But they also live well, as well as the rest of the people on each island. Most are on Rodos and Kos, I have not come across any on other islands, and quite a few of the ones I talked to have businesses on mainland Turkey too, mostly tourist oriented business. If they had any problems living where they do they would have packed up and left, but they stay put.

There are many cases of cutting out the Turkish Nikitas and when I get the time I will fish them out for you. If you have any decency you will research it yourself. The same thing is happening in Cyprus with intent. We are not just another minority OK!. We are partners in the formation of the very first republic on the island. OH! And we haven't left the island either....That's the way we are...Would you say we have had it easy

[zan]

As for the settlers and those of you who do not see any probemes with them staying. Just consider this simple phraseology used by Greek Cypriots:

"He is a Turk" for mainland Turks. "One of ours" (Dikos mas) for a Turkish Cypriot, which is the exact same way to distinguish between a mainland Greek and a Greek Cypriot. So wake up and realise that no matter what the solution will be, two states, fedral, the status quo, something totally different, the settlers will be a hurdle.

Nothing is easy and I for one would like to tackle the problem and not take the easy ethnic cleansing way out....We created this problem. You seem to be happy to use these people as pawns....I simply am not. It's a question of morality in my case. It's a case of politics and prejudice in yours.

Just like you have made the Pontians and all the other Non Cypriots, Cypriots, Then they can be made also. Not all that lives in the "RoC" is GC........Any idea of real numbers...I would like to know!!!!

[miltiades]

How ironic that Turkish Cypriots today have difficulty accepting the Turks coming to stay in Cyprus despite having a common language and religion with them yet cannot see why Christian Greek Cypriots never wanted to be with the invading Ottomans… their forefathers.

Today we are being blackmailed to negotiate power with these people or give them a separate state just so that history may repeat itself when they later find themselves to be negotiating with blackmailing Turks over half of their half!

How ironic that as soon as the GCs had the chance they turned into the Ottomans themselves.

How even more ironic that two Turkish Cypriots so far dismissed my disturbing observation with irrelevant sophistry...

How is this then GR....You did not give us anything but death and destruction....We took our republic from your murdering and thieving hands.....And that's the way it is going to stay....The irony is that you had us as pure Cypriots in 1960......You destroyed that within three years.

How was the "Republic " created Zan ?
As for more nonsense about who murders and who steals from whom , give it a well deserved rest. You know that some 7 or so years prior to the Turkish invasion , that is from 1967 to July 1974 not one single Cypriot lost life due to inter communal fighting.
As for your comments """" your murdering and thieving hands."""
you are being irresponsible in stirring up hatred amongst the Cypriot people. Is this proof that a tiny MINORITY of T/Cs are promoting these nonsense therefore creating fear and apprehension amongst their people.
I meet and talk to , on average , 20 or so T/Cs weekly . I dont hear your views , but I hear their wish to live in peace with their fellow Cypriots.
Just as you promote the continuation of hatred with your comments so did your peers and your close friends and family promoted theirs to you because I can see that your commenting not on personal experience but on hear say , just as VP with his distorted views.

Dear friend Miltiades,
you are saying that every week nearly with 20 TC's you are talking they all says their wish to live in peace with their fellow cypriots.
How about from GC!s friends. İ belive we proved by saying yes to AP.
most of us does not hate our GC's friends it is true but we are still waiting them to prove it.

My dear Halil , I understand the expressed wish of the T/Cs to live in peace in a unified island with their compatriots as shown by the majority votes cast for the AP . I opposed the AP , and I assure you I was not in any way influenced by the ROC recommendations to vote No.
On this forum I expressed my misapprehension at a plan that would allow 50 % of Cypriot Police stations to be flying the Greek flag and the same amount flying the Turkish flag. Such divisionist acts would ensure the permanent division of our island .You know me well enough , I'm a committed Cypriot who wholeheartedly supports our Cypriot nations' independence from the two foreign countries that I consider as the cause of all our problems. The AP was NOT a unifying plan but I believe it was a plan that would eventually break down and lead to more conflict amongst our people. I'm sure that you must appreciate that real concerns of the Cypriot people must be addressed and not ignored. I believe the ROC is NOT doing enough to bring our two peoples together and I m confident that should they concentrate on unified policies rather than political "non-realities " and should the T/C leadership also do so , a solution would be feasible in the very near future.
Our people also must be encouraged by the state and our leaders to understand each others concerns and fears for the future.I would have no hesitation in casting my vote for a T/C president who represented the entire community and was committed to Cyprus's independence.

[Pyrpolizer]

:shocked: Oh come on Pyro! That sounds ridiculous!

Yet true my friend. If it gives you any comfort those settlers were Kurds.

I can give you other examples like using the toilet for their animals to drink water and the bathtap to place their food.

We had many thousand Gcs living in Karpaz T_C. They witnessed all these events, and I heard them from too many.

if I remember well they were also throwing away the chairs as they liked sitting on the floor.

The man of culture that knows nothing hahahahahaaaaaa. This is about as stupid as it can get and you have made some cockups on this forum Pyro hahahahahaaaa

The ape has come down from the trees and is calling his brothers uncivilised apes.......The art of hanging meat is an age old trade carried out by kings you doughnut....Lords and bishops hang pheasant for days before cooking. many meats are cured in the sun with flies shitting on them day and night and you eat it. How soon we forget where we came from.....Just popping down to the super market dear!!!!hahahahahahahaaaa. Give me ten pounds in my pocket and a farm and get rid of these moronic snobs out of Cyprus.......for fucks sake.....

Thank you for admitting the settlers carry middle-age traditions with them. Perhaps you should go in Karpaz and learn how to do it yourself. Perhaps you should join them for lunch too.

As for curing meat in the sun perhaps you should learn some chemistry as to what is done to it prior to that, like for example soacking it in wine and smoking it on fire.

Oh and another thing:As soon as flies get on that meat, it's finished, the process of drying the meat was unsuccessful. Better throw it away


Why do you all get fanatic when we point your barbaric ethics and roots. Why the same reaction when we point you truths concerning your ilk like the above and the Armenian genocide? Do you reject your OWNSELVES?

You are digging yourself in deeper and deeper with your ignorance. Every thing you do is from the middle ages you pranit. It really is a Greek trait you know, this arrogance. The number of times I have heard people say that you guys think you are better than everyone else is amazing. I usually defend you but I am beginning to see they are right. What a burk you are to try and distance yourself from the ape you really are hahahahahahahahaha. The worst kind as well. The type that doesn't even know it is an ape. The conscious mind seems not to have developed in you.


And your stupid comment above about why I did not save the children in 1974 goes a long way to proving that. Want to ask any more stupid questions

blah blah blah lot of rhetoric, blah blah blah a lot of inferiority complexes, blah blah blah a lot of incoherence, blah blah blah calling my question stupid.

Hey Zany listen, here's the answer to my question:YOU CARE LESS FOR ANYTHING ELSE THAN whatever you consider TURKISH. For this reason alone you are GLAD the GC children were ethnically cleansed and deprived their childhood neighborhoods. You are even more GLAD to see Anatolian settler children taking up their place.

Get lost you hypocrite who you think you are kidding?

[Pyrpolizer]

Zan wrote:

"All over the Greek islands there are Muslim Greeks but it seems not a single Turk. Funny that"

Wrong, very wrong! I have been there several times. They are not simply Moslem, they are Turkish and they say so. But they also live well, as well as the rest of the people on each island. Most are on Rodos and Kos, I have not come across any on other islands, and quite a few of the ones I talked to have businesses on mainland Turkey too, mostly tourist oriented business. If they had any problems living where they do they would have packed up and left, but they stay put.

There are many cases of cutting out the Turkish Nikitas and when I get the time I will fish them out for you. If you have any decency you will research it yourself. The same thing is happening in Cyprus with intent. We are not just another minority OK!. We are partners in the formation of the very first republic on the island. OH! And we haven't left the island either....That's the way we are...Would you say we have had it easy

You were. You are not any longer. By the minute you created TRashNcan KickKickTheCarnival you are history. The same goes for the minute you tried to change the demographics on our expense by importing thousands of Anatolian settlers.

Kaput.

[Pyrpolizer]

My dear Halil , I understand the expressed wish of the T/Cs to live in peace in a unified island with their compatriots as shown by the majority votes cast for the AP . I opposed the AP , and I assure you I was not in any way influenced by the ROC recommendations to vote No.
On this forum I expressed my misapprehension at a plan that would allow 50 % of Cypriot Police stations to be flying the Greek flag and the same amount flying the Turkish flag. Such divisionist acts would ensure the permanent division of our island .You know me well enough , I'm a committed Cypriot who wholeheartedly supports our Cypriot nations' independence from the two foreign countries that I consider as the cause of all our problems. The AP was NOT a unifying plan but I believe it was a plan that would eventually break down and lead to more conflict amongst our people. I'm sure that you must appreciate that real concerns of the Cypriot people must be addressed and not ignored. I believe the ROC is NOT doing enough to bring our two peoples together and I m confident that should they concentrate on unified policies rather than political "non-realities " and should the T/C leadership also do so , a solution would be feasible in the very near future.
Our people also must be encouraged by the state and our leaders to understand each others concerns and fears for the future.I would have no hesitation in casting my vote for a T/C president who represented the entire community and was committed to Cyprus's independence.

You think they DON'T KNOW IT Miltiades?
The hell they know the Anan Plan would just legalise their partition dreams. It makes me sick hearing all those hypocrites saying "we voted yes to a unification Plan". Some very few TCs thought it was a unification plan and voted for it for that reason.

The rest knew exactly what it was. A PARTITION PLAN LEGALISING THE STEALING OF OUR LANDS AND PROPERTIES.

[Nikitas]

Zan,

There is no prejudice regarding the settlers. They came from somewhere and they can go back there. I do not advocate kicking them out by force. Several times I said they should be given financial compensation, substantial compensation that will enable them to go back to their homeland and be financially secure.

I also stressed the need for financial incentives to be offered to Turkish Cypriots of the diaspora to return to Cyprus. This is not a figure of speech or a propaganda ploy. I would rather see building development to attract Cypriots back rather than tourists, retirees, and a host of others who do not have any real connection to the island. In my point of view the return of diaspora Cypriots, especially Turkish Cypriots, to the island is one of the most important elements in a solution. These people are real stakeholders and will act accordingly and to the benefit of the country.

Some will say but these people do not want to come back they are fixed up ok where they are. FIne, so let them be the owners of property and lease it, not sell it, to retirees etc. The ownership will be Cypriot and that is better than what is going on now.

[halil]

question for u Pyro :
you are talking about settlers from Karpasia .
Have you meet them at karpasia ?
Did you talk with them ?
or You heard all these sayings from third persons ?
i used to hear same things about them , when i met them i found them very nice and understandable people. you are right most of them Kurdish.

[Pyrpolizer]

@halil.

From 1974 until recently as you know we couldn't cross halil. Those stories were told to us from GC students after the turned 12 and receiving their "EXILE TICKET" from Denktash. As you can see they are true in their details (how on earth would I even know those settlers were mostly Kurdish?)

Talking to them and speaking to them: NO! When I visited Apostolos Andreas I watched some houses that had the front door wide open, and a saw some mullahs sitting on the floor inside the house. One of them had a lot of wifes around him and they were smoking nargiles.
Another one seemed very busy. While sitting on the floor with a bunch of children all over making noise he was speaking on the mobile phone. And then i thought, oh this settler must be progressive, he must be calling his koumbaro if the lamb has swelled enough