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[Pyrpolizer]

In 1980 I met a Turkish Cypriot man in Larnaca. He had refused to be moved to the north and lived and worked there. At one point he says to me:

"My daughter is married to a Kalamaras" (term used by Cypriots for mainland Greeks). I was surprised.

"Mr H. your daughter married a Kalamaras?"

"Yep, she did, and now hey live in Kyrenia" That floored me. His daughter married a mainland Greek and lived in Kyrenia, in 1980!!! It sounded like the ramblings of a disturbed individual. Then came the clincher:

"You know, our Kalamarases are worse than yours" said Mr H. and that explained it all!

The Turkish "kalamaras" are called Karasakals

[Pyrpolizer]

They even use a Greek word as a pejorative term to refer to them. I can't remember this word but it apparently means the rubbish that is washed up onto the shore by the sea.

Feejia.=seaweeds

I havent heard that word for yonks.
We used to call it Fija = Metaphorically dross, dregs etc. I am only refering to the word itself. (no confusion please)
Never heard it applied to humans, but I see the point they are making. I think most TCs do not want these settlers, but because of their kind nature they show tacit acceptance of these poor wretches who have most probably been displaced. This kindness is the ruination of the TCs. Soon they will be politically flooded.

Propably they started using it well after 1974 Deniz? Did you leave in 1963??

[Get Real!]

This scares the GCs senseless as they will be faced with a TRNC closer to Turkey than ever before but by then it will be too late and they will have made the same mistakes that lead up to 1974.

If that's your desired result then one might ask you why you don't go to live in Turkey or do you prefer this scenario out of spite?

[Get Real!]

Trying to show GR how its done eh!!!! GR take note....DT failed as well.

I must respect his thread... ...I have been cautioned once already by that mouldy DiropiTta!

[iceman]

T_C have you worked or know any second generation settlers who were born and educated here, they are no different from us. Imagine what their children will be like. The first generation settlers although not Turkeys elite or best educated are hard working (a country needs a working force to ensure development) and in time will adapt to our culture. This scares the GCs senseless as they will be faced with a TRNC closer to Turkey than ever before but by then it will be too late and they will have made the same mistakes that lead up to 1974.

VP
When was the last time you went to a school in North Cyprus? Do you know the proportion of settlers kids to genuine TC children at schools? I suggest you visit a school or ask some TC teacher what the situation is..
How are they going to adopt to our culture when there is MORE of them than us?? Stop kidding yourself...They are systematically destroying our culture on daily basis..

Yagmurdan kacarken doluya tutulduk

[Viewpoint]

T_C have you worked or know any second generation settlers who were born and educated here, they are no different from us. Imagine what their children will be like. The first generation settlers although not Turkeys elite or best educated are hard working (a country needs a working force to ensure development) and in time will adapt to our culture. This scares the GCs senseless as they will be faced with a TRNC closer to Turkey than ever before but by then it will be too late and they will have made the same mistakes that lead up to 1974.

VP
When was the last time you went to a school in North Cyprus? Do you know the proportion of settlers kids to genuine TC children at schools? I suggest you visit a school or ask some TC teacher what the situation is..
How are they going to adopt to our culture when there is MORE of them than us?? Stop kidding yourself...They are systematically destroying our culture on daily basis..

Yagmurdan kacarken doluya tutulduk

I have children in state schools and my neighbours are teachers, they confirm that the % is high but they the second generation are gradually changing as the majoirty of teachers are TC.

[iceman]

T_C have you worked or know any second generation settlers who were born and educated here, they are no different from us. Imagine what their children will be like. The first generation settlers although not Turkeys elite or best educated are hard working (a country needs a working force to ensure development) and in time will adapt to our culture. This scares the GCs senseless as they will be faced with a TRNC closer to Turkey than ever before but by then it will be too late and they will have made the same mistakes that lead up to 1974.

VP
When was the last time you went to a school in North Cyprus? Do you know the proportion of settlers kids to genuine TC children at schools? I suggest you visit a school or ask some TC teacher what the situation is..
How are they going to adopt to our culture when there is MORE of them than us?? Stop kidding yourself...They are systematically destroying our culture on daily basis..

Yagmurdan kacarken doluya tutulduk

I have children in state schools and my neighbours are teachers, they confirm that the % is high but they the second generation are gradually changing as the majoirty of teachers are TC.

I wish i had your optimism...

[Viewpoint]

T_C have you worked or know any second generation settlers who were born and educated here, they are no different from us. Imagine what their children will be like. The first generation settlers although not Turkeys elite or best educated are hard working (a country needs a working force to ensure development) and in time will adapt to our culture. This scares the GCs senseless as they will be faced with a TRNC closer to Turkey than ever before but by then it will be too late and they will have made the same mistakes that lead up to 1974.

VP
When was the last time you went to a school in North Cyprus? Do you know the proportion of settlers kids to genuine TC children at schools? I suggest you visit a school or ask some TC teacher what the situation is..
How are they going to adopt to our culture when there is MORE of them than us?? Stop kidding yourself...They are systematically destroying our culture on daily basis..

Yagmurdan kacarken doluya tutulduk

I have children in state schools and my neighbours are teachers, they confirm that the % is high but they the second generation are gradually changing as the majoirty of teachers are TC.

I wish i had your optimism...

iceman we made our choice and have been rejected yet again by the GCs, what do you expect you have to make the best of what you have life goes on and does not wait for arrogant and despost GCs to decide whether they want to share this island as 2 equal communities.

[Pyrpolizer]

T_C have you worked or know any second generation settlers who were born and educated here, they are no different from us. Imagine what their children will be like. The first generation settlers although not Turkeys elite or best educated are hard working (a country needs a working force to ensure development) and in time will adapt to our culture. This scares the GCs senseless as they will be faced with a TRNC closer to Turkey than ever before but by then it will be too late and they will have made the same mistakes that lead up to 1974.

For the 'trnc' to be closer to Turkey this means is YOU who will adapt to the settler mentality not the settlers to yours. This means the settlers will outnumber you or drive most of you out of Cyprus.

Of course there is always the comfort of inventing Zan type excuses.Like watching Turkish settler boys playing barefoot in his old neighborhood and imagining his life started all over again, from where he left it some 50 years ago.

[Get Real!]

VP doesn’t understand that what DIFFERENTIATES AND VALIDATES the TC community is the EXISTANCE of the GC community!

If the TC community was to ever officially join Turkey it would quite simply cease to exist.

That of course is something that people like VP, Eric, Zan, and many others couldn’t care less about which FURTHER PROVES that they couldn’t care less about Cyprus so any reference to them as "Cypriot" is totally bogus.