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Cyprus on its own over Syria ferry dispute

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Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:01 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Utu,

I am worried about the people who will ride on these little slippers (that is what we call small ferries here in Greece where I live). They are considered too small to sail in conditions above force 7. The stretch between Cyprus and Syria is open to southern winds and as soon as the ships clear the Karpasia peninsula they are vulnerable to north winds too. Eighty miles is no small distance, look at the map of Greece, the island of the eastern Aegean are 60 miles from Piraeus and a trip on a big ship, a 20 000 tonnner, in seas over force 6 is not at all comfortable.

The use of what are in essence water buses between the ports lends credence to Piratis' view that people transport is the only goal in this link. But no matter the purpose of the trips, the people should be safe.


Ho lets cancel the crossings, wouldnt that be exactly what GCs want, you appear to be crying crocodile tears, these excuses even if genuine will never be accepted as such.


No, no continue. Here' a safe prediction for a cold winter day
Turks go, Turks come back NOT.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:03 am

Andros wrote:I regard this so-called Syrian development as a serious threat to the legal position of the Cyprus problem. Unfortunately, Turkey has obviously stepped-up its stealth tactic of seeking recognition for the So-called TRNC, while giving the impression that it wishes to promote unification of the island. Once again, the world, will dismiss Turkey's efforts as sincere as they can never seem to adopt a linear political policy for Cyprus. You can't look as if you are promoting the removal of the isolation in the name of humanity and for the benefit of unification, while, behind the UN's back, desperately seeking recognition!

Another confusing Turkish state of politics. I would prefer it if they just told us straight that they are no longer interested in unification and that the removal of the isolation is either for the benefit of recognition or annexation.

AM I WRONG?



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Postby phoenix » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:03 am

denizaksulu wrote:Hi sweetie, its your signature calling for 'be nice to Turkey' and all that. I reciprocate by being nice to you. You know this old man has a crush on you?

Do you want me to be nasty? Just give me the nod. :wink: I am delighted at your optimism.What does uncle GR say? :lol:


:lol: I changed my signature a few days ago!

I'm trying to warm up for some serious politics because I need the experience.
So pose some serious questions and be as nasty as you like. :wink:

Go on Turk . . . make a reactionary statement! :evil:
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Postby growuptcs » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:03 am

Viewpoint, you keep implying that the world only sees the Cyprus president stubborn stance and not Turkeys. Since you convinced yourselves about that why dont you go picket at the U.N. about him, on how he holds the key to your future? If you all think on equal terms you would get treated on equal terms but since your queens of discrimination, I don't think anyone would really stick their necks out for humility that only Turks deserve in the case for Cyprus. Go ahead tell me to keep dreaming to convince yourselves again. Bubble boy.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:06 am

Andros wrote:I regard this so-called Syrian development as a serious threat to the legal position of the Cyprus problem. Unfortunately, Turkey has obviously stepped-up its stealth tactic of seeking recognition for the So-called TRNC, while giving the impression that it wishes to promote unification of the island. Once again, the world, will dismiss Turkey's efforts as sincere as they can never seem to adopt a linear political policy for Cyprus. You can't look as if you are promoting the removal of the isolation in the name of humanity and for the benefit of unification, while, behind the UN's back, desperately seeking recognition!

Another confusing Turkish state of politics. I would prefer it if they just told us straight that they are no longer interested in unification and that the removal of the isolation is either for the benefit of recognition or annexation.

AM I WRONG?


Andros firstly welcome to the forum hope youenjoy does get a bit addictive at times.

If you are faced with GC brick wall then its natural you seek alternatives to carry on a normal life as possible. Hope as the GCs sit back and do nothing for finding solution seeing they are the ones that rejected the last attempt thw world will gradually start to relax the isoaltion on the north and allow to TCs to progress.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:29 am

Andros wrote:I regard this so-called Syrian development as a serious threat to the legal position of the Cyprus problem.

Although the RoC does not like to see any country giving the slightest of recognition to the “TRNC” this particular development has an interesting twist that actually benefits the RoC. Turkey getting closer to Syria is actually good news for the RoC as the US loathes Syria and if it were not for Iran keeping her busy these days, chances are that the US would’ve been all over Syria by now especially after Israel’s “undesirable” defeat by Hezbollah. The Turkey-Syrian flirting is something that the US will refuse to forgive and may well prove fatal for Turkey at a latter date.
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Postby Nikitas » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:32 am

Halil said-

"This morning Latkia -Famagusta passengers had bad times at see"

Well it is what I was saying. If any of you guys on the forum want to go to Syria wait till you have really good weather forecast, winds and seas below force 5. I know what it is like to be tossed about a ship like a sack of potatoes. Not nice!
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:39 am

Nikitas wrote:Halil said-

"This morning Latkia -Famagusta passengers had bad times at see"

Well it is what I was saying. If any of you guys on the forum want to go to Syria wait till you have really good weather forecast, winds and seas below force 5. I know what it is like to be tossed about a ship like a sack of potatoes. Not nice!


Have you ever crossed from UK ot Belgium can get pretty rough but people still do it, I think your concern sounds very artificial allowing that this crossing is very important for the progress of the TC.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:35 am

Just a question to halil:We know the first trip carried some journalists and some 'government" employees. How many has the second trip carried?
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Postby halil » Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:13 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Just a question to halil:We know the first trip carried some journalists and some 'government" employees. How many has the second trip carried?


This will be third one.The Akgunler-1 ferry left the Gazimagusa Port this morning for the Syrian city of Latakiya with 40 passengers.

As from today, there will be two scheduled services per week from Gazimagusa and Latakia ports, with ferries leaving Gazimagusa every Thursday and Sunday for a day-long visit to Syria.


The ferry services between the two cities were to start yesterday but yesterday’s sailing was postponed because of bad weather conditions.
The Akgunler-1 ferry left the Gazimagusa Port this morning for a three-hour journey to Latakiya.

For adults prices are 100 USD
Students :75 USD
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