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Re: Cyprus on its own over Syria ferry dispute

Postby oranos64 » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:41 pm

Eric dayi wrote:Just in case you haven't seen it or trying to hide it.

To all those who kept quoting Article 541 and claiming that it is Turkey who put embargoes on the TRNC and not the GCs, stick that in your pipe and smoke it. :lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol:

Welcome to the EU "RoC". :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol:

You do realise that this means Girne port is also not illegal, don't you?

Next, Ercan airport. :wink: :wink: :wink:

After that, recognition of the TRNC. :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol:


Cyprus on its own over Syria ferry dispute

By Jean Christou

WITH THE government scrambling to put a stop to the ferry service between Syria and the breakaway Turkish Cypriot regime, reports yesterday suggested Nicosia was on its own and could not expect any help from the EU.

Politis quoted sources at the office of EU Enlargement Commissioner Olli Rehn as saying the use of occupied Famagusta port was not illegal under international law and that the issue was a bilateral one between Cyprus and Syria.

In addition, they said the designation of Famagusta port as illegal was a unilateral decision by the Cyprus government after 1974 and could not affect Syria as far as international law was concerned. The EU would not intervene, they said, because neither the EU nor the UN had ever imposed an embargo on ports in the north.

Only direct flights to the north can be considered illegal since the issue is governed by the International Civil Aviation Organisation under the Chicago Convention. The same rules do not apply under maritime law.

Only the issue of trade is applicable as far as the EU is concerned, and that relates to tariffs, not to the actual trading out of the ports in the north.

The reason most foreign ships do not dock in the north is due to the ban imposed by the Cyprus Republic, which would arrest and charge the captain of any vessel who visited the north and went on to dock in Limassol or any other legal port.

Since Limassol is a major port in the region, most foreign ships comply.
In an attempt to persuade Syria to put a stop to the twice-weekly ferry services, the honorary president of socialist EDEK Vassos Lyssarides will fly to Damascus on Saturday as an envoy of the government.

“If everything goes well, I will be in Damascus on October 20,” Lyssarides said.

“These issues need careful handling and the common aim is to lift any negative consequences and to establish the traditionally friendly relations that existed and we believe still exist between Syria and Cyprus,” Lyssarides said.

Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 3&cat_id=1


yadda yadda yadda

this isolation crap will end soon .,..as i said ..us greek cypriots cannot carry living this dream that the world should treat the TC as casts off ...

let the ferrry journeys exist .....let a price war commence ...its what cyprus as a whole needs

southern cyps accept we lost the war and we lost the battle ...noone cares for our plight ....look around you ....we have too few allies and in less than 4 years we have become the bad guys

i gurantee .nothing will come off from this trip ....i gurantee it

let the ferry sail ...
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Re: Cyprus on its own over Syria ferry dispute

Postby Eric dayi » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:53 pm

oranos64 wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:Just in case you haven't seen it or trying to hide it.

To all those who kept quoting Article 541 and claiming that it is Turkey who put embargoes on the TRNC and not the GCs, stick that in your pipe and smoke it. :lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol:

Welcome to the EU "RoC". :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol:

You do realise that this means Girne port is also not illegal, don't you?

Next, Ercan airport. :wink: :wink: :wink:

After that, recognition of the TRNC. :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol:


Cyprus on its own over Syria ferry dispute

By Jean Christou

WITH THE government scrambling to put a stop to the ferry service between Syria and the breakaway Turkish Cypriot regime, reports yesterday suggested Nicosia was on its own and could not expect any help from the EU.

Politis quoted sources at the office of EU Enlargement Commissioner Olli Rehn as saying the use of occupied Famagusta port was not illegal under international law and that the issue was a bilateral one between Cyprus and Syria.

In addition, they said the designation of Famagusta port as illegal was a unilateral decision by the Cyprus government after 1974 and could not affect Syria as far as international law was concerned. The EU would not intervene, they said, because neither the EU nor the UN had ever imposed an embargo on ports in the north.

Only direct flights to the north can be considered illegal since the issue is governed by the International Civil Aviation Organisation under the Chicago Convention. The same rules do not apply under maritime law.

Only the issue of trade is applicable as far as the EU is concerned, and that relates to tariffs, not to the actual trading out of the ports in the north.

The reason most foreign ships do not dock in the north is due to the ban imposed by the Cyprus Republic, which would arrest and charge the captain of any vessel who visited the north and went on to dock in Limassol or any other legal port.

Since Limassol is a major port in the region, most foreign ships comply.
In an attempt to persuade Syria to put a stop to the twice-weekly ferry services, the honorary president of socialist EDEK Vassos Lyssarides will fly to Damascus on Saturday as an envoy of the government.

“If everything goes well, I will be in Damascus on October 20,” Lyssarides said.

“These issues need careful handling and the common aim is to lift any negative consequences and to establish the traditionally friendly relations that existed and we believe still exist between Syria and Cyprus,” Lyssarides said.

Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 3&cat_id=1


yadda yadda yadda

this isolation crap will end soon .,..as i said ..us greek cypriots cannot carry living this dream that the world should treat the TC as casts off ...

let the ferrry journeys exist .....let a price war commence ...its what cyprus as a whole needs

southern cyps accept we lost the war and we lost the battle ...noone cares for our plight ....look around you ....we have too few allies and in less than 4 years we have become the bad guys


And whose fault is that? On second thoughts, don't bother, I we all know the answer to that one.

It's the USA, CIA, Turks, Russians, Martians and everyone else except the Greeks and GCs. :roll: :rol:

gurantee .nothing will come off from this trip ....i gurantee it


You "gurantee" it? What you gonna do, sink it?

let the ferry sail ...


First regular sail is tomorrow, ain't it?
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Postby Eric dayi » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:57 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:In case you haven't woken up yet sock-puppet, that was nearly 30 years ago and a hell of a lot has changed since then. Even the EU has changed it's mind about supporting you GCs in your illegal embargoes and your dream of a Greek Cyprus.

All you are now doing is to try and ease the pain of reality of what is inevitable.

Like I said before, it has started. :wink:

Don't make BIG statements my intellectually challenged friend because ABSOLUTELY NOTHING has changed for the "TRNC" in the last three decades. There's a BIG difference between what some people say, especially after being given a free holiday villa in the illegal north, and what they actually do...


Olli Rehn had a free holiday in the TRNC? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I understand your pain Get Retard. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BTW, tell me something, what has the "RoC" achieved regarding the CypProb, ENOSIS, osmosis or anthing else for that matter, apart from being sucked into the EU where it is a hell of lot easier to force it to toe the line, hmmmm?

You are now even forced to give up your strong Cyp£ and adopt the weaker Euro. No more free hand at laundering millions of £s, no more helping the PKK terrorists and all sorts of other restrictions, hope you are happy with it all. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Look don't worry about politics... how about a prediction for N.Ireland Vs Cyprus?


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Postby Expatkiwi » Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:20 am

Thought I'd come back on to comment on this particular thread. Nice to see a ferry link established between TRNC and a country other than Turkey, though Syria loves playing Machivellian politics to benefit its interests.
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Postby Eric dayi » Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:45 am

Expatkiwi wrote:Thought I'd come back on to comment on this particular thread. Nice to see a ferry link established between TRNC and a country other than Turkey, though Syria loves playing Machivellian politics to benefit its interests.


It's just the beginning Dean and after what Olli Rehn said that it is not illegal for any country to establish a link and that the "RoC" is on it's own me thinks that other countries will follow after a little while.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:40 pm

wrote: Politis quoted sources at the office of EU Enlargement Commissioner Olli Rehn as saying the use of occupied Famagusta port was not illegal under international law


First of all we all know what "quoted sources" means. It’s just a hearsay. Even If Oli Rehn had said it it doesn’t mean he is right, and more importantly it doesn’t mean any activities performed in or through the Famgusta port are legal. Quite the opposite.

Famagusta port was actually declared by the Republic of Cyprus as a CLOSED port. A port by itself is not illegal, it is just a port. There are hundreds of ports all around the world (especially in Japan) that are declared CLOSED. For some of them Japan even allows docking of ships if they pay special fee and get a licence. Therefore it is not the port that is illegal but the docking or departure of ships from that port for carrying goods or people.

International law is simply all the treaties and agreements between countries. Syria is actually breaking international law by ignoring the RoC laws that set the Famagusta port closed, by accepting carriage of people and goods from a closed RoC port, by accepting shipping documents from the pseudo state that the UN themselves declared illegal, and by accepting the passports of the pseudo state.

Furthermore as far as I know that ship has already lost it’s Russian flag. :razz: :razz: If and when it gets a new one, and if it continues getting financed to make it’s trips, and if, and if, we talk later :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:45 pm

Eric dayi wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:Thought I'd come back on to comment on this particular thread. Nice to see a ferry link established between TRNC and a country other than Turkey, though Syria loves playing Machivellian politics to benefit its interests.


It's just the beginning Dean and after what Olli Rehn said that it is not illegal for any country to establish a link and that the "RoC" is on it's own me thinks that other countries will follow after a little while.


Is this what Oli Rehn said??? :P :P :P :P :P

Even on the things someone thought of hearing him saying, does that mean he is the ultimate authority who can decide??? :P :P :P :P :P

Isn't he only responsible for the enlargement of EU? :P :P

There is only one thing I agree with you. That it is just the beginning. The beginning of your understanding and digesting that as long as you continue carrying your illegalities, the stealing of half the GCs of their lands and properties, and their ethnic cleansing and substitution by settlers THERE IS NO WAY OUT OR YOU.
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Postby halil » Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:51 pm

due to bad weather tonight Famagusta- Latkia ferry canceled.
This morning Latkia -Famagusta passengers had bad times at see.
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Postby phoenix » Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:06 pm

halil wrote:due to bad weather tonight Famagusta- Latkia ferry canceled.
This morning Latkia -Famagusta passengers had bad times at see.


Kismet :lol:
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Postby DT. » Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:13 pm

phoenix wrote:
halil wrote:due to bad weather tonight Famagusta- Latkia ferry canceled.
This morning Latkia -Famagusta passengers had bad times at see.


Kismet :lol:


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