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"The Greek Cypriots prefer their own diplomacy, including offering to jointly run Famagusta Port with the north in exchange for the return of Varosha.Talat rejected the offer.Talat thinks Marash (Varosha) will be talk within the whole frame of the talks."

This is not the case- Turkish side is ready to give back Famagusta to its owners if Gcs side sign an agreement sharing the control of all-repeat all Island with them.All other stories are just to spend the time of all of us.

[DT.]

DT,
have a look before Talat .What was offered and who was rejected ?
this article was published at Turkish Daily News.


IS A PROVISIONAL SOLUTION ON CYPRUS POSSIBLE?

Columnist Sami Kohen comments on Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) President Rauf Denktas’s latest proposal for the island. A summary of his column is as follows:


“This week saw an important development on the Cyprus issue when Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) President Rauf Denktas presented a new six-article proposal for the island. After talks organized by United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan ended in failure last month, the negotiations process ground to a halt and Annan’s plan was shelved. Now the Greek Cypriots are eagerly awaiting April 16, when the European Union will open its door to them alone with the signing of their EU accession papers.,

So at this point, Denktas put forward a new proposal, in effect trying to show that the process of finding a resolution hadn’t ended yet and could in fact continue on a new basis with the other side’s cooperation.

The new proposal has two main elements. The first is very important: Turkish Cypriots would give Varosha (Maras) over to Greek Cypriot control to open it to resettlement. With this, Denktas is signaling that he’s ready to give a territorial concession concerning Maras. The second element is about such ‘confidence-building measures’ as providing for free cross-border trade, transportation, circulation, etc. between the sides. In so proposing, the Turkish side is effectively asking the Greek Cypriots to lift their embargos and similar limitations. In sum,

1. Denktas sets aside Annan’s plan completely and instead tries to work out a provisional solution.

2. This provisional solution provides the Greek Cypriots with the chance to return to Varosha, something which they very much want.

3. Besides the prospect of resuscitating the Turkish Cypriot economy, the proposal also aims to win political leverage through a ‘de facto recognition’ of the TRNC.

Denktas and official circles in Ankara think that acceptance of the proposal would soften the atmosphere on the island and reopen the road for dialogue towards a solution. However, both the Greek Cypriots and foreign diplomatic circles think this very unlikely.

The initial reaction of the Greek Cypriot administration shows that this proposal won’t be accepted. It seems Greek Cypriot leader Tassos Papadopoulos will present a package to Denktas working solely to his advantage. The Papadopoulos administration is acting with the confidence that Greek Cyprus will get what it wants on April 16, so there’s no real reason for them to take Denktas’ proposal seriously. Leaders from Ankara and Athens will meet at the Southeastern European Countries’ Cooperation Process summit in Belgrade next week. This meeting might be a possibility to discuss the Cyprus issue again under a new umbrella.

Clearly, however, a provisional solution like the one proposed by Denktas won’t establish a basis for a final resolution. It would be more reasonable and realistic to fold his proposals into the framework of the UN plan, in other words, make them a part of Annan’s proposal.”



The Greek Cypriots prefer their own diplomacy, including offering to jointly run Famagusta Port with the north in exchange for the return of Varosha.Talat rejected the offer.Talat thinks Marash (Varosha) will be talk within the whole frame of the talks.

I don't understand Halil, Denktash offered tVarosha in exchange for de facto recognition of the "trnc". What did you expect? What I'm saying is what could possibly be wrong with the offer made to Talat?

You get what you want, a working port ran in partnership with us.
We get what we want, the rightful return of the Varoshiotes to their homes.

[zan]

yeah...how the hell does anyone convince anyone that ethnic cleansing is ok?

I said it before and I will say it again...this embargo thing is brought upon by turkey...take it up with turkey and stop wasting everyones time...

to the syrians...people that live in glass houses should never throw stones...remember golan heights?

I endorse this post! Short, sweet, simple... FACTUAL!

Bullshit.............


Shorter, sweater and more accurate

[zan]

‘Syria mission a success’
By Jean Christou
THE CONTROVERSIAL issue of a ferry service between occupied Famagusta and Latakia in Syria will be resolved soon, EDEK honorary president Vassos Lyssarides said yesterday.

Lyssaridies was speaking after a meeting with President Tassos Papadopoulos upon his return from Damascus where he met Syrian President Bashar al-Asad and other senior officials.

He left for Damascus on Friday night as an official envoy of the President.

“I have been given assurances that the issue will be resolved before [Foreign Minister] Mrs Marcoullis travels to Damascus,” said Lyssarides. He further added that it would be resolved to the satisfaction of the Greek Cypriot side.

The ferry service officially began last Friday, some weeks after an inaugural trip. The day-trip is set to run twice a week on Thursdays and Sundays. Around 30 people travelled on the first voyage on Friday, although the vessel has a capacity of nearly 300.

Cyprus has been trying for weeks to put pressure on Syria to halt the trips but has so far failed.

However Lyssarides seemed certain that his trip to Damascus would produce results. He said he had drawn up a report, which he had handed over to Papadopoulos yesterday detailing his contacts with the Syrian officials.

He also called for public debate and rhetoric on the ferry issue to remain low key, saying such debates didn't help

“I am satisfied that the mission was a success,” Lyssarides said, adding that he had also discussed bilateral relations between Cyprus and Syria in other areas of interest.

Lyssarides said his meeting with the Syrian President lasted over an hour. Others who attended the meeting were the Syrian Foreign Minister, the country’s vice President, the President of the Syrian parliament and political party leaders.

“My conclusion is that this issue will be resolved shortly and in a way that will satisfy our side,” Lyssarides said.
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Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007



I suppose the mission was so that the "RoC"could tell Syria not to listen to Turkey and carry on with the service...Please help the TCs they said....Turkey is suffocating them....All heart...Pure heart!

[cymart]

Turkey does not want recognition of the T.R.N.C. because its present status allows certain people to benefit from various illegal activities there, but they do want the lifting of the embargo.
I agree that they would return Varosha in exchange for a political partnership but of course Tassos P. could never swallow that!His motto is that if you can't get everything you want, don't compromise and agree to nothing until the conditions allow you to!It also ensures him and his clan continue to enjoy the spoils of power in definitely!

[Pyrpolizer]

‘Syria mission a success’
By Jean Christou
THE CONTROVERSIAL issue of a ferry service between occupied Famagusta and Latakia in Syria will be resolved soon, EDEK honorary president Vassos Lyssarides said yesterday.

Lyssaridies was speaking after a meeting with President Tassos Papadopoulos upon his return from Damascus where he met Syrian President Bashar al-Asad and other senior officials.

He left for Damascus on Friday night as an official envoy of the President.

“I have been given assurances that the issue will be resolved before [Foreign Minister] Mrs Marcoullis travels to Damascus,” said Lyssarides. He further added that it would be resolved to the satisfaction of the Greek Cypriot side.

The ferry service officially began last Friday, some weeks after an inaugural trip. The day-trip is set to run twice a week on Thursdays and Sundays. Around 30 people travelled on the first voyage on Friday, although the vessel has a capacity of nearly 300.

Cyprus has been trying for weeks to put pressure on Syria to halt the trips but has so far failed.

However Lyssarides seemed certain that his trip to Damascus would produce results. He said he had drawn up a report, which he had handed over to Papadopoulos yesterday detailing his contacts with the Syrian officials.

He also called for public debate and rhetoric on the ferry issue to remain low key, saying such debates didn't help

“I am satisfied that the mission was a success,” Lyssarides said, adding that he had also discussed bilateral relations between Cyprus and Syria in other areas of interest.

Lyssarides said his meeting with the Syrian President lasted over an hour. Others who attended the meeting were the Syrian Foreign Minister, the country’s vice President, the President of the Syrian parliament and political party leaders.

“My conclusion is that this issue will be resolved shortly and in a way that will satisfy our side,” Lyssarides said.
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Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007



I suppose the mission was so that the "RoC"could tell Syria not to listen to Turkey and carry on with the service...Please help the TCs they said....Turkey is suffocating them....All heart...Pure heart!

[Viewpoint]

‘Syria mission a success’
By Jean Christou
THE CONTROVERSIAL issue of a ferry service between occupied Famagusta and Latakia in Syria will be resolved soon, EDEK honorary president Vassos Lyssarides said yesterday.

Lyssaridies was speaking after a meeting with President Tassos Papadopoulos upon his return from Damascus where he met Syrian President Bashar al-Asad and other senior officials.

He left for Damascus on Friday night as an official envoy of the President.

“I have been given assurances that the issue will be resolved before [Foreign Minister] Mrs Marcoullis travels to Damascus,” said Lyssarides. He further added that it would be resolved to the satisfaction of the Greek Cypriot side.

The ferry service officially began last Friday, some weeks after an inaugural trip. The day-trip is set to run twice a week on Thursdays and Sundays. Around 30 people travelled on the first voyage on Friday, although the vessel has a capacity of nearly 300.

Cyprus has been trying for weeks to put pressure on Syria to halt the trips but has so far failed.

However Lyssarides seemed certain that his trip to Damascus would produce results. He said he had drawn up a report, which he had handed over to Papadopoulos yesterday detailing his contacts with the Syrian officials.

He also called for public debate and rhetoric on the ferry issue to remain low key, saying such debates didn't help

“I am satisfied that the mission was a success,” Lyssarides said, adding that he had also discussed bilateral relations between Cyprus and Syria in other areas of interest.

Lyssarides said his meeting with the Syrian President lasted over an hour. Others who attended the meeting were the Syrian Foreign Minister, the country’s vice President, the President of the Syrian parliament and political party leaders.

“My conclusion is that this issue will be resolved shortly and in a way that will satisfy our side,” Lyssarides said.
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Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2007



I suppose the mission was so that the "RoC"could tell Syria not to listen to Turkey and carry on with the service...Please help the TCs they said....Turkey is suffocating them....All heart...Pure heart!

Well said zan this is a prime example of Turkey keeping us isolated, these Greek Cypriots would try to stop the fresh air coming North if they could, pathetic bastards.

[phoenix]

Well said zan this is a prime example of Turkey keeping us isolated, these Greek Cypriots would try to stop the fresh air coming North if they could, pathetic bastards.

Is this another cry for help, VP?

[Pyrpolizer]

Well said zan this is a prime example of Turkey keeping us isolated, these Greek Cypriots would try to stop the fresh air coming North if they could, pathetic bastards.

You put yourselves in an open prison because of your illegalities remember? STAY IN YOUR OPEN PRISON and don't try to brake nature's rules. Btw your open prison has a lot of fresh air. Breath THAT one, you don't need any Syrian air.

[zan]

Well said zan this is a prime example of Turkey keeping us isolated, these Greek Cypriots would try to stop the fresh air coming North if they could, pathetic bastards.

You put yourselves in an open prison because of your illegalities remember? STAY IN YOUR OPEN PRISON and don't try to brake nature's rules. Btw your open prison has a lot of fresh air. Breath THAT one, you don't need any Syrian air.

What we did was expand on the 3% you forced us into by illegal and immoral means mate.....The siege you put us in then and starved our women and children is still going on...Only difference is now we are not starving and have Turkey feeding us and allowing us to wave our private parts in your general direction.