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[denizaksulu]

No Turkey wouldnt have to be accountable,yet it is saying sorry and regretting past actions of your anceastors.

Do I understand you correctly? You want Turkey to say sorry for what the Ottomans did to your ancestors. Cant be this easy must be a catch somewhere, do you want half of Turkey??? We gave you 12 points at the last Eurovision song contest isnt that enough???

It was as recent as 1923 that the Ottoman army was abolished and the Turkish republic established so get your facts right and stop assuming that the Ottomans were from the distant past!

Not that it makes a difference to your argument, there was no Ottoman Army after Sevres', when the Ottoman Army was demobilised and disarmed. This in itself caused lots of lawlessness in te 'dissected' Turkish heartland.

Regards

More relevant to the issue though is that having lost in WWI the Ottomans needed “restructuring” so the Turkish republic was proclaimed. They were EXACTLY the same people and the only thing being different was their new name.

Kemal Atatürk was the father of the Ottomans BEFORE being called the father of the Turks.

Any notion that modern Turkey is NOT responsible for Ottoman atrocities is UTTER IRRESPONSIBLE RUBBISH!

GR, I am afraid you have a lot to learn about Turkish Nationalism and the disposal of the idea of 'Ottomanism'. Those Military people (Ittihak ve Terraki Partisi Union and Progress Party) (the triumvirate of Enver, Talat and Djemal) responsible for the defeat and the entry of the Ottoman Empire in to the war were hunted down and executed. Your above statement is a bit far fetched. Since you always ask for proof for statements, we are awaiting.
Kemal Ataturk was sentenced to death for rising against the Istanbul goverment (instigated by Churchill and his lot).

As you say, "do your own research", but dont be too selective this time .

Regards

Without getting into the details of Turkish internal upheaval of the time because it’s not really necessary to answer the question at hand, do you deny that modern Turkey is responsible for past Ottoman actions?

So you are telling me that Cyprus was captured from the Venetians in 1571 (the year you were... oh yes conveying fine messages ) by the The Republic of Turkey? You would have been awarded a giant koullourika (zero?) if you answered yes to that.


Regards

[Get Real!]

No Turkey wouldnt have to be accountable,yet it is saying sorry and regretting past actions of your anceastors.

Do I understand you correctly? You want Turkey to say sorry for what the Ottomans did to your ancestors. Cant be this easy must be a catch somewhere, do you want half of Turkey??? We gave you 12 points at the last Eurovision song contest isnt that enough???

It was as recent as 1923 that the Ottoman army was abolished and the Turkish republic established so get your facts right and stop assuming that the Ottomans were from the distant past!

Not that it makes a difference to your argument, there was no Ottoman Army after Sevres', when the Ottoman Army was demobilised and disarmed. This in itself caused lots of lawlessness in te 'dissected' Turkish heartland.

Regards

More relevant to the issue though is that having lost in WWI the Ottomans needed “restructuring” so the Turkish republic was proclaimed. They were EXACTLY the same people and the only thing being different was their new name.

Kemal Atatürk was the father of the Ottomans BEFORE being called the father of the Turks.

Any notion that modern Turkey is NOT responsible for Ottoman atrocities is UTTER IRRESPONSIBLE RUBBISH!

GR, I am afraid you have a lot to learn about Turkish Nationalism and the disposal of the idea of 'Ottomanism'. Those Military people (Ittihak ve Terraki Partisi Union and Progress Party) (the triumvirate of Enver, Talat and Djemal) responsible for the defeat and the entry of the Ottoman Empire in to the war were hunted down and executed. Your above statement is a bit far fetched. Since you always ask for proof for statements, we are awaiting.
Kemal Ataturk was sentenced to death for rising against the Istanbul goverment (instigated by Churchill and his lot).

As you say, "do your own research", but dont be too selective this time .

Regards

Without getting into the details of Turkish internal upheaval of the time because it’s not really necessary to answer the question at hand, do you deny that modern Turkey is responsible for past Ottoman actions?

So you are telling me that Cyprus was captured from the Venetians in 1571 (the year you were... oh yes conveying fine messages ) by the The Republic of Turkey? You would have been awarded a giant koullourika (zero?) if you answered yes to that.

Regards

I think the Armenian Genocide was at hand not the Venetians... do you want to have another crack at answering?

[shahmaran]

Stop talking crap! There is no proof of a genocide and until it is properly investigated there never will be any, so it will just be nothing but a tool for a bunch of genocide merchant crooks manipulating the deaths of so many people for other crooked agendas in exchange of whatever they can grab!

I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing t-shirts and bumper stickers being sold about the so called "genocide" soon or later, because people have no dignity left anymore, and you GR are a living proof of it!

[StuartN]

do you deny that modern Turkey is responsible for past Ottoman actions?

You might as well ask 'Do you deny that modern Germany is responsible for past Nazi actions'

It's bollocks.

[halil]

[denizaksulu]

No Turkey wouldnt have to be accountable,yet it is saying sorry and regretting past actions of your anceastors.

Do I understand you correctly? You want Turkey to say sorry for what the Ottomans did to your ancestors. Cant be this easy must be a catch somewhere, do you want half of Turkey??? We gave you 12 points at the last Eurovision song contest isnt that enough???

It was as recent as 1923 that the Ottoman army was abolished and the Turkish republic established so get your facts right and stop assuming that the Ottomans were from the distant past!

Not that it makes a difference to your argument, there was no Ottoman Army after Sevres', when the Ottoman Army was demobilised and disarmed. This in itself caused lots of lawlessness in te 'dissected' Turkish heartland.

Regards

More relevant to the issue though is that having lost in WWI the Ottomans needed “restructuring” so the Turkish republic was proclaimed. They were EXACTLY the same people and the only thing being different was their new name.

Kemal Atatürk was the father of the Ottomans BEFORE being called the father of the Turks.

Any notion that modern Turkey is NOT responsible for Ottoman atrocities is UTTER IRRESPONSIBLE RUBBISH!

GR, I am afraid you have a lot to learn about Turkish Nationalism and the disposal of the idea of 'Ottomanism'. Those Military people (Ittihak ve Terraki Partisi Union and Progress Party) (the triumvirate of Enver, Talat and Djemal) responsible for the defeat and the entry of the Ottoman Empire in to the war were hunted down and executed. Your above statement is a bit far fetched. Since you always ask for proof for statements, we are awaiting.
Kemal Ataturk was sentenced to death for rising against the Istanbul goverment (instigated by Churchill and his lot).

As you say, "do your own research", but dont be too selective this time .

Regards

Without getting into the details of Turkish internal upheaval of the time because it’s not really necessary to answer the question at hand, do you deny that modern Turkey is responsible for past Ottoman actions?

So you are telling me that Cyprus was captured from the Venetians in 1571 (the year you were... oh yes conveying fine messages ) by the The Republic of Turkey? You would have been awarded a giant koullourika (zero?) if you answered yes to that.

Regards

I think the Armenian Genocide was at hand not the Venetians... do you want to have another crack at answering?

Ask me a relevant question and I will reply with a relevant answer. All you need to do is ask a proper , logical question, and I will reply in a likewise manner. I am glad you are not shouting yet.

Regards

[Get Real!]

Stop talking crap! There is no proof of a genocide and until it is properly investigated there never will be any, so it will just be nothing but a tool for a bunch of genocide merchant crooks manipulating the deaths of so many people for other crooked agendas in exchange of whatever they can grab!

You have a habit of shooting yourself in the foot. Here's what the Armenian Genocide Bill contains...

The Armenian Genocide was conceived and carried out by the Ottoman Empire from 1915 to 1923, resulting in the deportation of nearly 2,000,000 Armenians, of whom 1,500,000 men, women, and children were killed, 500,000 survivors were expelled from their homes, and which succeeded in the elimination of the over 2,500-year presence of
Armenians in their historic homeland.

I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing t-shirts and bumper stickers being sold about the so called "genocide" soon or later, because people have no dignity left anymore, and you GR are a living proof of it!

You deny the Armenian Genocide while acknowledging the "deaths of so many people" that most of the world agrees to have happened yet INVENT a "TC Genocide" when 500 odd of your people, most of which were renegades, lost their lives during the 1963...69 inter-communal fighting? A period spanning six years!

Are you sure you're not BOZO THE CLOWN in disguise?

[denizaksulu]

Bit late for breakfast. I would add a bit of parsley and minced meat and I am back in the 1960's and have that for dinner.

Halil, go back to your cockpit please. You are so merciless.

[halil]

1963...69 inter-communal fighting?



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[EPSILON]

I have just read an article that the cypriot government has secretly donated the S300 mislies to the PKK further to the iminent intervention of Turkish troops into northern iraq...

Do not worry S300 is at the correct place and in full operational status and always under the control of the correct hands/continue your sleep do not worry.